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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:29 pm

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In post 84, Krazy wrote:
In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:whats ur 2 cents on titus krazy
She's town but we should be sticking to "strategy A" until there's a town consensus to switch to "strategy B"

Strategy A: Hoods aren't revealed until L-1 with intent to protect the doc
Strategy B: All hoods are revealed to guarantee the production of ICs upon redflips

We can always switch to B, but we can't go back to A once we go B.
I feel I'm outvoted but this is agreeable for now.
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:35 pm

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In post 93, Elsa Jay wrote:I don't think the entire Team Mafia pick a setup easily breakable to give to us.

We just gotta be smart.
It's not totally breakable no. The closest we can come in any scenario is forcing scum into a series of bad decisions.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:45 pm

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In post 98, OkaPoka wrote:actually there is literally no reason to ever massclaim dude unless you are looking for team solves/ruling out partners

just claim at intent or nk
I feel like scum!OkaPoka isn’t this stubborn and disagreeable here
In post 100, Titus wrote:
In post 84, Krazy wrote:
In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:whats ur 2 cents on titus krazy
She's town but we should be sticking to "strategy A" until there's a town consensus to switch to "strategy B"

Strategy A: Hoods aren't revealed until L-1 with intent to protect the doc
Strategy B: All hoods are revealed to guarantee the production of ICs upon redflips

We can always switch to B, but we can't go back to A once we go B.
I feel I'm outvoted but this is agreeable for now.
...and I worry that Town!Titus isn’t this agreeable umm ever
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:45 pm

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have you ever played with scum me ?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 102, Pine wrote:
In post 98, OkaPoka wrote:actually there is literally no reason to ever massclaim dude unless you are looking for team solves/ruling out partners

just claim at intent or nk
I feel like scum!OkaPoka isn’t this stubborn and disagreeable here
In post 100, Titus wrote:
In post 84, Krazy wrote:
In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:whats ur 2 cents on titus krazy
She's town but we should be sticking to "strategy A" until there's a town consensus to switch to "strategy B"

Strategy A: Hoods aren't revealed until L-1 with intent to protect the doc
Strategy B: All hoods are revealed to guarantee the production of ICs upon redflips

We can always switch to B, but we can't go back to A once we go B.
I feel I'm outvoted but this is agreeable for now.
...and I worry that Town!Titus isn’t this agreeable umm ever
It's not that I'm agreeable, it's just that I'm not winning that. I have got too many stubborn voices to get through. Your read is a fair read, I just would like to get onto scumhunting now. I'll give you town points for commenting on this, since it's consistent with what I usually say.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:50 pm

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unless you can give me a mathematical argument on why just lol outting all the neighborhood has a +ev wr in comparison to the strat of outing upon flips/intent

im just going to treat that argument like flat earthers

and to me saying ur wrong to flat earthers isnt being stubborn
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:53 pm

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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:55 pm

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In post 105, OkaPoka wrote:unless you can give me a mathematical argument on why just lol outting all the neighborhood has a +ev wr in comparison to the strat of outing upon flips/intent

im just going to treat that argument like flat earthers

and to me saying ur wrong to flat earthers isnt being stubborn
The setup hasn't been run before, so the arguments are more theoretical rather than practical.

I'm mostly concerned about scum hammering before the flip can be announced. Second, announcing at flips doesn't give us the hard mathmatical eliminations to hunt from. IN a purely optimal sense where town are presumed to have zero scumhunting skills, it's not optimal. I'm not playing mafia in that world though. I'm playing in a world where we play and more information means smarter choices and smarter wagons.

I read people by their associations to each other. By eliminating possible teams, I get a better grip on the game and VCA works better. It just gives a hard data approach to the game.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:56 pm

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okay solution is we policy lynch lol hammerers
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:58 pm

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Time to lolhammer for the TM points then.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:58 pm

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Math's thoughts Nancy is town or scum with Elsa. Oka is lock!town. He's only read through page 1 though.

I'm not sure what to think on the strength of his reads.

I'm strongly leaning town on Pine, Krazy and Oka at the moment. I doubt Elsa and Nancy are scum. That's a little self-centered and convienent to think scum just immediately voted me because I had the optimal plan. I would expect that either Elsa or Nancy is scum but not both.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:59 pm

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Jingle tells me Pine and Titus are town.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:59 pm

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In post 109, Elsa Jay wrote:Time to lolhammer for the TM points then.
Did you just wake up on the disagreeable side of the bed or what?
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:00 pm

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scum literally have no hand in putting together the neighborhoods thus the data you would get rn is = zero
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:02 pm

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krazy's entrance posts are kinda bad tbh
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:03 pm

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In post 112, Titus wrote:
In post 109, Elsa Jay wrote:Time to lolhammer for the TM points then.
Did you just wake up on the disagreeable side of the bed or what?
I just got off of work, actually, and saw I got a particularly long week of work, and a full nightshift on my Birthday.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:05 pm

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In post 113, OkaPoka wrote:scum literally have no hand in putting together the neighborhoods thus the data you would get rn is = zero
Absolutely not. I cede they had zero input in putting together the hoods but whomever's their partners are is straight up impossible to be S v S. That's why I figured it would be such common sense to out the hoods and then scum hunt for people who read based on relationships with other people. Then, follow that through with who dies and who lives.

Why are Krazy's posts bad?

What are your thoughts on Elsa and Nancy?

I'm off to bed, but I'll follow up tmo.

P-edit: Happy belated birthday!
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 9, Titus wrote:I am neighbors with Hectic. We all should claim since scum scum hoods are impossible.
Titus wrote:Math's thoughts Nancy is town or scum with Elsa. Oka is lock!town. He's only read through page 1 though.

I'm not sure what to think on the strength of his reads.
Math... Hasn't commented in this game yet, but you claimed partners with Hectic.

The fuck?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:06 pm

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my thoughts on all three of those slots are they are boring and put me to sleep

but i have heard high praise of krazy so :eyes:
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:07 pm

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Also my birthday is the 7th, not today, lol.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 117, Elsa Jay wrote:Math... Hasn't commented in this game yet, but you claimed partners with Hectic.
Mathblade, not Mathdino.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:08 pm

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In post 117, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 9, Titus wrote:I am neighbors with Hectic. We all should claim since scum scum hoods are impossible.
Titus wrote:Math's thoughts Nancy is town or scum with Elsa. Oka is lock!town. He's only read through page 1 though.

I'm not sure what to think on the strength of his reads.
Math... Hasn't commented in this game yet, but you claimed partners with Hectic.

The fuck?
Math (Mathblade) my teammate and brother.

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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:08 pm

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...

You gotta be very specific when your in a game with another guy called Math. Legit thought I caught you somehow already slipping from the scum PT
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:09 pm

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inb4 someone says wow elsa townslipped
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:11 pm

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Elsa townsl-

Dammit.
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