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Post Post #8100 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:13 am

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In post 8086, Xtoxm wrote:is it just VC4.7 that tells you skitter scum, or is there more to it?
my own vca says 1 scum in {shos, flopz} and thats about it
I’ve had an off and on feeling Skitter is scum so no it’s not just that.

Mainly it’s more a “gut” and she seems off thing.

But unless someone explains a shos townread I will likely end up voting there later today since Titus and I agree there.
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Post Post #8101 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:14 am

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In post 8088, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 8082, MathBlade wrote:Can someone talk me through their thoughts regarding yesterday given Ari flipped town?
skitters actions hard shielded shos and were instrumental in moving things toward ari as opposed to shos
flopz ultimately helped him but had no effect on swinging momentum
overall, a worse look for skitter, but its a tough call
I agree. Hence why I think today is shos and figure out the rest tomorrow.
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Post Post #8102 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:17 am

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In post 8060, shos wrote:Y NO DED

damnit
I can't believe xtomx has gotten to lylo, ftr.

so Skitter is clearly not today's lynch
I am probably a viable mislynch candidate (I know you want to math, don't vote yet)
xtomx is definitely a lynch candidate
Math should proooobably be kept for later, assuming we lynch correctly?
Specifically here.

If you think I am town why are you saying I should be “kept for later”?
And if you think I am scum why are you talking to me like town telling me to “don’t vote yet”?

This reads like you’re not hunting and trying to manipulate me and others. That’s why it’s bad.
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Post Post #8103 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:19 am

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In post 8094, shos wrote:
In post 8071, MathBlade wrote:2) Teacher dying means the theory is more than likely wrong. I don’t kill people who suspect me as scum. If I did you’d have been dead.
lol this is bullshit. Ico and teacher have been universally townread, and thus they were killed. The whole argument about when to nolynch was EXACTLY THIS, my point was that if we NL late then scum get to choose who lives to lylo. And look at that! we have a lylo with no less than FOUR PEOPLE OUT OF FIVE who are suspects. sucks to be us.

either way, the fact that a universally townread person dies doesn't make him wrong, that is a stupid say in practically every game ever
Teacher and XtomX were/are both in the probTown category.
Xtom by mechanics and Teacher by reads.

The fact they killed teacher did matter as scum would want an advantageous lylo.
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Post Post #8104 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:20 am

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In post 8099, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 8097, shos wrote:
In post 8085, Xtoxm wrote:@flopz
i'd like you to take a look at 7791
have you read this post before, and do you agree with the logical conclusion? (that necessarily there is one town is {xtox, math}
if no, could you explain why?
You basically, like math, ignore everything I say?
I read it and found it lacking. You said that scum neighbouring a buddy would allow them day talk, which was countered by the rule set. Since then you made no further comment on the topic and continued to push us both as scum.
I think he’s just desperate for someone to push.

The shos wagon was right yesterday.
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Post Post #8105 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:21 am

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From this post people have 24 hours before I vote shos barring shenanigans or events.
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Post Post #8106 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:38 am

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In post 8099, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 8097, shos wrote:
In post 8085, Xtoxm wrote:@flopz
i'd like you to take a look at 7791
have you read this post before, and do you agree with the logical conclusion? (that necessarily there is one town is {xtox, math}
if no, could you explain why?
You basically, like math, ignore everything I say?
I read it and found it lacking. You said that scum neighbouring a buddy would allow them day talk, which was countered by the rule set. Since then you made no further comment on the topic and continued to push us both as scum.
No, I made the point that neighbourizing a buddy first and then making another 'recruit' of town will make them have much more leverage, thus making the neighbourhood useful (because a hood is practically a useless power)
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Post Post #8107 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:40 am

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In post 8102, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8060, shos wrote:Y NO DED

damnit
I can't believe xtomx has gotten to lylo, ftr.

so Skitter is clearly not today's lynch
I am probably a viable mislynch candidate (I know you want to math, don't vote yet)
xtomx is definitely a lynch candidate
Math should proooobably be kept for later, assuming we lynch correctly?
Specifically here.

If you think I am town why are you saying I should be “kept for later”?
And if you think I am scum why are you talking to me like town telling me to “don’t vote yet”?

This reads like you’re not hunting and trying to manipulate me and others. That’s why it’s bad.
No, this reads 'not sure enough for lylo'. Your arguments are literally shit this game, math
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Post Post #8108 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:40 am

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In post 8103, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8094, shos wrote:
In post 8071, MathBlade wrote:2) Teacher dying means the theory is more than likely wrong. I don’t kill people who suspect me as scum. If I did you’d have been dead.
lol this is bullshit. Ico and teacher have been universally townread, and thus they were killed. The whole argument about when to nolynch was EXACTLY THIS, my point was that if we NL late then scum get to choose who lives to lylo. And look at that! we have a lylo with no less than FOUR PEOPLE OUT OF FIVE who are suspects. sucks to be us.

either way, the fact that a universally townread person dies doesn't make him wrong, that is a stupid say in practically every game ever
Teacher and XtomX were/are both in the probTown category.
Xtom by mechanics and Teacher by reads.

The fact they killed teacher did matter as scum would want an advantageous lylo.
OF COURSE BECAUSE HE WAS UNIVERSALLY TOWNREAD
THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM WRONG
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Post Post #8109 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:41 am

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In post 8105, MathBlade wrote:From this post people have 24 hours before I vote shos barring shenanigans or events.
I'll save you some time
VOTE: Math
If it's flopz, congratz
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Post Post #8110 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:13 am

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VOTE: math
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Post Post #8111 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:14 am

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VOTE: MathBlade
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Post Post #8112 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:14 am

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gg guys
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Post Post #8113 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:21 am

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Spoiler: a palpable tepidness
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Vote Count 6.1 (FINAL)
MathBlade
(3): shos, skitter30, Xtoxm

Not Voting (2): MathBlade, Flopz

With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to end the day.
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Post Post #8114 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:22 am

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MathBlade has been lynched on day six. He was:
Spoiler: Flip
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A win condition has been achieved.


shos,
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Flopz,
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skitter30,
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The mafia team, consisting of Saudade, Xtoxm, and skitter30, has won.
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Post Post #8115 (ISO) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:25 pm

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PTs will be released and the thread will be opened after team mafia ends.

Spoiler: Full initial role assignment
Vanilla TownieHello, the worst, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Vanilla TownieHello, Vorkuta, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Vanilla TownieHello, RCEnigma, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Vanilla TownieHello, Aristophanes, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Vanilla TownieHello, Plum, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Vanilla TownieHello, teacher, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Your only weapons are your voice and your vote.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Town Innocent ChildHello, Thilbert, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Once during the game, at any point, you may choose to reveal yourself as town. To do so, PM me stating your intention. As soon as I receive your PM, I will post in-thread declaring you to be aligned with the town.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Town Simple DoctorHello, Iconeum, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Each night, you may target a player. That player will be protected from a single kill that night. Your action will fail if targeting a player that is not the vanilla role for their alignment.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Town Jack of All TradesHello, RadiantCowbells, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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Each night, you may use one of the following abilities:
  • Detective: Target a player. If successful, you will be told whether that player has attempted to target another player with a killing action this game. If unsuccessful, you will be told "no result". Note that this ability resolves after killing actions.
  • Tracker: Target a player. If successful, you will be told who your target targeted with any night actions during that night, or be told that they did not target anyone. If unsuccessful, you will be told "no result".
  • Motion detector: Target a player. If successful, you will be told whether or not you detect motion on that player. You will detect motion if either that player uses a night action, or another player other than you targets them with a night action. You will detect no motion if neither of these occur. If unsuccessful, you will be told "no result".
You may only use each ability once, and you may only use one ability each night.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Town Night 1-2 AlienHello, Bellaphant, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
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On each of night 1 and night 2, you may target a player. If successful, all actions taken by that player during the night will fail, and all actions targeting that player during the night will fail.

You win when all mafia members are dead, and at least one town member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Mafia GoonHello, skitter30, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
Mafia Goon
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Xtoxm
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tris
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You have a factional nightkill: each night, one of you may target someone. If successful, that player will die. Additionally, you may communicate at any time with your fellow mafia members here.

You win when all town members are dead, and at least one mafia member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Mafia GoonHello, Xtoxm, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
Mafia Goon
. Your partners are
skitter30
from You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap, a Mafia Goon, and
tris
from Doomsday, a Mafia Multitasking Neighborizer.

You have a factional nightkill: each night, one of you may target someone. If successful, that player will die. Additionally, you may communicate at any time with your fellow mafia members here.

You win when all town members are dead, and at least one mafia member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!




Mafia Multitasking NeighborizerHello, tris, and welcome to the Team Mafia 2020 Mini Normal!

You are a
Mafia Multitasking Neighborizer
. Your partners are
skitter30
from You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap, a Mafia Goon, and
Xtoxm
from The Four Horsemen, a Mafia Goon.

You have a factional nightkill: each night, one of you may target someone. If successful, that player will die. Additionally, you may communicate at any time with your fellow mafia members here.

Each night, you may target a player. If successful, they will join a neighborhood with you and all other players you have targeted. You will get a neighborhood PT upon the first time you successfully target someone with this action. You may speak with your neighbors in that topic at any time.

You may use multiple different abilities during the same night phase.

You win when all town members are dead, and at least one mafia member remains alive.

Please confirm by PM to me (implosion) by stating your alignment and role.

The game thread can be found here. Good luck!


Spoiler: Night actions
Night 1:

skitter30 kills RCEnigma (Fails: stopped by alien)
tris targets no one

Bellaphant aliens RCEnigma
Iconeum protects MathBlade
RadiantCowbells tracks teacher

Result:

RadiantCowbells receives the following PM:
tracker resultsteacher did not target anyone last night.



Night 2:

Night actions:

Xtoxm kills RadiantCowbells (Success)

Bellaphant aliens Iconeum
Iconeum protects MathBlade (fails: blocked by Bellaphant)
RadiantCowbell detectives Aristophanes (no result, because death)

Result:
RadiantCowbells dies


Night 3:

Night 3 actions:

skitter30 kills Bellaphant (Success)

Result:

Bellaphant dies


Night 4:

Xtoxm kills Iconeum (Success)

Iconeum protects MathBlade

Result:
Iconeum dies


Night 5:

Xtoxm kills teacher (Success)

Result:
teacher dies


And that's a wrap! Hope you enjoyed the game.

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Post Post #8116 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:54 am

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Congratulations to You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap!

Scum PT
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Post Post #8117 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:05 pm

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X was the math you used to justify the RCE lynch genuinely wrong or intentionally wrong?
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Post Post #8118 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:19 pm

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sorry for disappearing here. i was having issues with my life that i've decided i need to deal with before i can return to mafia games. happy to see that the mafia team won!
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Post Post #8119 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:08 pm

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Shoulda stuck with my gut.

Dammit!
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Post Post #8120 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:26 pm

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In post 8117, Jingle wrote:X was the math you used to justify the RCE lynch genuinely wrong or intentionally wrong?
The math was right.

More often than not RCE is scum there.

Then again I was town :/

And I shoulda been me and just pushed skitter. I just cooperated too much.
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Post Post #8121 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:37 pm

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Yeah I tried not being myself and that didn’t work and I am sorry.

Well played scum esp Skitter.
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Post Post #8122 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:34 am

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In post 8117, Jingle wrote:X was the math you used to justify the RCE lynch genuinely wrong or intentionally wrong?
any mistake is genuine i wasnt confident that i had it entirely right but it should be at least mostly right
its not wrong by design but certainly i put it out to help get a mislynch
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Post Post #8123 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:11 am

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Purely mathematical analysis actually says that it’s less likely for RCE to have made the kill than to have it blocked on specifically him, let alone blocked in general. I’ll grab the percentages and how to calculate it from our pt if on of the team doesn’t want to publish.
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Post Post #8124 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:08 am

Post by Aristophanes »

Neeeeeeeerd!




(Show me the math tho, I am curious)
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)
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