TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[JacksonVirgo]

At work so



Also duckyboi and I had a plan that us both and Uncrowned will flip wolf together and that didn’t happen and I doubt it triple failed so scum in Uncrowned/Ducky I am a genius

VOTE: the worst

[JacksonVirgo]

My internet is really playing up, although I don't have work tomorrow unlike today (Saturday, ugh). So if it doesn't get working properly it almost 100% will by tomorrow.

[JacksonVirgo]

Time to catch up 21 pages ahahaha

[JacksonVirgo]

Spoiler: P1-10

I think we're friends now. This has been a magical moment, thank you.

Xtoxm you'd better believe I'm coming at you for rolling scum without me.

Very bad LAMIST here duckyboi, definitely not confbias here definitely not.

lmao i’m such a spammer even on mobile. 14 days. can’t burn myself out yet. be back in a bit

You barely spammed at all...

VOTE: ythan

why

VOTE: hercule

Already nervous.

Actually agree with a vote there, but not entirely because they're nervous. Their posts just scream like they're trying to appear townie more than a town would.

it’s beautiful i’m so pocketed

I genuinely hate this. I don't think Oka/Hercule can be SvS though, could be wrong however.

hercule you mentioned that you were really excited to get this game started this morning, does your enthusiasm vary by alignment at all?

by extension is your activity generally similar (and I assume high) as both alignments?

honestly no idea i haven’t flipped scum in like 6 months

on the whole i generally dread being scum but it’s been so long it would be a nice change of pace

You 180 the question to boast about how you haven't flipped scum in a long time, and thus act LAMIST.

VOTE: the worst

VOTE: ythan

Sup wit dis?

changed my mind

decided I valued attempting to start a wagon more than voting ducky

In all of half a minute?

yep

Dann probably Town for this tbh

VOTE: ythan

why

VOTE: hercule

Already nervous.

Hercule town is my only non fake read and I LOVE that you're voting there

Just because your read counters another does NOT mean that you're right and they're wrong, quit shading people for having opposing reads.

Hectic's reads (heavily reworded to avoid quoting)
-Likes Dann's end of p6 posting (agreed) and the thought process between the two votes
- finds 22 from herc odd where he says he doesn't want to make a mountain out of the issue, then continues extending that conversation (eh, i'd see that as nai or very very lightly town leading thinking about incentives)
-jacko's friendly entrance/reaching out to several players for harmless banter is a slightly scum indicative entrance (i skimmed over this post initially, finding myself agreeing a bit i think? the vibes don't seem on point)
-Agar's questioning on Dann felt fake/couldn't understand what response Agar expected other than 'yep'/not looking for underlying reasons (agree, not a massive fan of agar but he also didn't do anything to look townie in those two posts tbh. reviewing gave me a vibe of like not really thinking about how people would look at the posts? flagging to interact with)
-townpings from 80 from Ythan and was vibing with DGB's attacks earlier (nice)
-the worst's 89 felt forced. hectic thought xtoxm was just thinking out loud and wasn't voicing a townlean. Some other good posts from TW but fakeable from hectic's pov as a lot of mech related (not sure what hectic means about the mech part. 89 does feel kind of weirdly reactive i agree. i also don't like the shade on dann in 97 that i noticed while skimming to find 89 in the iso).

VOTE: Jacko

Have you actually played with me before? They're my friendos :c

jackson will know i'm watching him either way (not in a creepy way jackson...)

VOTE: the worst

Aww I was hoping the creepy way :c
But why the duckyboi vote?

Hi. Uncrowned here.

Ythan is Town.

ABR is probably Town.

Dunnstral is probably Town.

Hopkirk's reasoning on JV's intro is reasonable, but I believe it is NAI for JV given the history between them, myself and The Worst.

I don't think a teammate reading the game is indicative of anything, but I guess I get the sentiment?

I don't think The Worst has been that awkward, I think that's just how he be sometimes.

Oh using an alt? Interesting. This entrance is a bit meh tbh from what I remember from duckys PYP. They're usually the type of player to fully explain everything, at least from memory.

CT - { }
ACT - { }
TR - { Dannflor }
TL - { A50, Hopkirk }
NR - { }
SL - { the worst, Uncrowned }
SR - { hercule }
ACS - { }
CS - { }

[JacksonVirgo]

Why Agar, I just checked the last page and holy fuck it's either they slipped heavily or something happened haha

[JacksonVirgo]

JV you SLing me here is a very bad look. Want to explain that?

I already explained why, and my reads aren't changing just because it's a bad look for me

[JacksonVirgo]

JV you SLing me here is a very bad look. Want to explain that?

he did

that was actually maybe the only good thing in his post

AHa yeah I'm bad at focusing during catchups

[JacksonVirgo]

That is not an explanation.

Page 1-10 also includes Me/Hopkirk interaction, does it not? Why no mention of anything there?

I'm not accepting that as a good explanation for a weak SL on me.

SL by default is a weaker read. I'm still catching up dude

[JacksonVirgo]

He dropped a vote that I 100% would have made had I been online when Dannflor made that post voting Ythan.

And this strengthens your town-read on them due to a mindmeld thing yeah?

I'm sensing that there's a disconnect between us that might be boiled down to more of a miscommunication than anything.

Do you have any thoughts on A50 as of right now, or no?

I am finding it hard to follow due to this disconnect but I don't see how this makes my SL reasoning weaker.

IV

You still have nervous energy

The best way I would further describe what seems to be wrong with you is that you believe solving to be a catch-all towntell, but it's like

Page 10? What necessity is there to solve on page 10. Changing your mind or seeming like 'oh man, I'm just so worried about everything!' does not make you town

If you are town, stop forcing yourself to do things thanks

bro what are you even talking about lol

I think it's quite obvious what they're saying? Unless it's a context thing I'm missing

How do you vibe with someone's whose only points are that I'm a) nervous (i'm not) and b) lying about being bored?? LMAO like get out of here with that

I've known dgb for twelve years.

I've known her for 14 years, why you gotta write out the number like that to make yourself seem more serious? lol

Is this shade?

I like innocent villager for town, it's only 5% because of the friendly avatar.

I like this for Town, I can't really put my finger down as to why.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: AGar

VOTE: agar

VOTE: agar

There's almost 100% scum in this three

[JacksonVirgo]

...SPEEDRUN?

Can we do this on A50 instead?

Welp, until you all see the light...

VOTE: AGar

Wait no I take that back. Add this dude

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: AGar

VOTE: agar

VOTE: agar

There's almost 100% scum in this three

Why?

Speedwagons are almost never purely Town

[JacksonVirgo]

Ayyy the first instance of us three back to back posting just happened.

What a momentous occasion. I am honoured to be playing with you both.

An epic moment ahaha

[JacksonVirgo]

Like JV probably knows I'm easier to read off of interactions as well so that's why it weirds me out that they'd pick *that* post to talk about of all things.

You can't just assume how I read people and then shade me from not doing what you expect

[JacksonVirgo]

Like JV probably knows I'm easier to read off of interactions as well so that's why it weirds me out that they'd pick *that* post to talk about of all things.

PEdit: I have not played with A50 before, I believe.

Regrettably, he does this a lot

I don't care for it either but unfortunately I don't think it's useful for divining his alignment

Spoiler: P1-10

I think we're friends now. This has been a magical moment, thank you.

Xtoxm you'd better believe I'm coming at you for rolling scum without me.

Very bad LAMIST here duckyboi, definitely not confbias here definitely not.

lmao i’m such a spammer even on mobile. 14 days. can’t burn myself out yet. be back in a bit

You barely spammed at all...

VOTE: ythan

why

VOTE: hercule

Already nervous.

Actually agree with a vote there, but not entirely because they're nervous. Their posts just scream like they're trying to appear townie more than a town would.

it’s beautiful i’m so pocketed

I genuinely hate this. I don't think Oka/Hercule can be SvS though, could be wrong however.

hercule you mentioned that you were really excited to get this game started this morning, does your enthusiasm vary by alignment at all?

by extension is your activity generally similar (and I assume high) as both alignments?

honestly no idea i haven’t flipped scum in like 6 months

on the whole i generally dread being scum but it’s been so long it would be a nice change of pace

You 180 the question to boast about how you haven't flipped scum in a long time, and thus act LAMIST.

VOTE: the worst

VOTE: ythan

Sup wit dis?

changed my mind

decided I valued attempting to start a wagon more than voting ducky

In all of half a minute?

yep

Dann probably Town for this tbh

VOTE: ythan

why

VOTE: hercule

Already nervous.

Hercule town is my only non fake read and I LOVE that you're voting there

Just because your read counters another does NOT mean that you're right and they're wrong, quit shading people for having opposing reads.

Hectic's reads (heavily reworded to avoid quoting)
-Likes Dann's end of p6 posting (agreed) and the thought process between the two votes
- finds 22 from herc odd where he says he doesn't want to make a mountain out of the issue, then continues extending that conversation (eh, i'd see that as nai or very very lightly town leading thinking about incentives)
-jacko's friendly entrance/reaching out to several players for harmless banter is a slightly scum indicative entrance (i skimmed over this post initially, finding myself agreeing a bit i think? the vibes don't seem on point)
-Agar's questioning on Dann felt fake/couldn't understand what response Agar expected other than 'yep'/not looking for underlying reasons (agree, not a massive fan of agar but he also didn't do anything to look townie in those two posts tbh. reviewing gave me a vibe of like not really thinking about how people would look at the posts? flagging to interact with)
-townpings from 80 from Ythan and was vibing with DGB's attacks earlier (nice)
-the worst's 89 felt forced. hectic thought xtoxm was just thinking out loud and wasn't voicing a townlean. Some other good posts from TW but fakeable from hectic's pov as a lot of mech related (not sure what hectic means about the mech part. 89 does feel kind of weirdly reactive i agree. i also don't like the shade on dann in 97 that i noticed while skimming to find 89 in the iso).

VOTE: Jacko

Have you actually played with me before? They're my friendos :c

jackson will know i'm watching him either way (not in a creepy way jackson...)

VOTE: the worst

Aww I was hoping the creepy way :c
But why the duckyboi vote?

Hi. Uncrowned here.

Ythan is Town.

ABR is probably Town.

Dunnstral is probably Town.

Hopkirk's reasoning on JV's intro is reasonable, but I believe it is NAI for JV given the history between them, myself and The Worst.

I don't think a teammate reading the game is indicative of anything, but I guess I get the sentiment?

I don't think The Worst has been that awkward, I think that's just how he be sometimes.

Oh using an alt? Interesting. This entrance is a bit meh tbh from what I remember from duckys PYP. They're usually the type of player to fully explain everything, at least from memory.

CT - { }
ACT - { }
TR - { Dannflor }
TL - { A50, Hopkirk }
NR - { }
SL - { the worst, Uncrowned }
SR - { hercule }
ACS - { }
CS - { }

I don't really get the feeling that you're reading my slot in good faith.

how is answering "is your activity generally similar (and I assume high) as both alignments?" with "genuinely don't know it's been forever since i was scum, i think i would enjoy the change of pace" flipping the question 180? I... don't know what my activity level as scum would be like. How else can I answer it but conjecture? the rest just appeared to be attempts at tonereading me, which comes across flat

It avoids answering the question, you're pushing an "unknown" answer when you could just say that you were/weren't back in the day instead of using the entire post to bloat about how townie you are.

[JacksonVirgo]

can we shade you for your reads being made up because you're scum though?

If anyone actually knows how I play as scum this wouldn't even be a question

[JacksonVirgo]

This game is already a mistake, fun

[JacksonVirgo]

Day was shit to begin with, I'm going bye

[JacksonVirgo]

Are you allowed to directly reference the reads of your team-mates?

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: AGar

VOTE: agar

VOTE: agar

There's almost 100% scum in this three

Why?

Speedwagons are almost never purely Town

Useless thing to say

They asked a question and I responded to it as to why. So no it wasn't useless

[JacksonVirgo]

Day was shit to begin with, I'm going bye

idk why you're so upset about like one scumread

It's not that but I don't want to push personal issues into this thread

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Winter Flakes

[JacksonVirgo]

JV is legitimately scum. Has zero reason to be SRing me here whatsoever.

This and A50 guys. Let's get it going.

And this is legitimately discrediting which I despise, break my case

[JacksonVirgo]

Saying “haha this is scum” and not saying why is literally useless, give it more depth

[JacksonVirgo]

Note to self: if one of ducky/uncrowned flip scum I relish in the omega town skills

[JacksonVirgo]

Note to self: if one of ducky/uncrowned flip scum I relish in the omega town skills

And yea this is lamist mwahahaha

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m working but I’ve decided to change my mindset about this game, had a lot of personal and mental issues that overtook my mind so I’m going to re-catch up and try to focus hard, always an issue for me but I’m gonna give it a shot since this is a serious game more than usual.

Fwiw prior to re-catching up I think scum are Flake/Hercule. I’ll try and read back on interactions with Flake again and see if the slimy behaviour from Hercule is NAI.

[JacksonVirgo]

Fwiw one of my bois thinks that Hercule had been slimy as well.

[JacksonVirgo]

Off the brain, they’ve been acting extremely Lamist which I know isn’t AI on its own but they’ve also been very slimy about answering questions such as that time where they flipped a question to show how townie they are. Sure they answered the question but they did so in a way that seems purposefully manipulative.

Flake has been discrediting me as soon as my SL on them moved on from a joke. They put low effort in their initial post, I don’t fully remember seeing them explain shit and if they did and they were actually asked to explain it my read on that will worsen, otherwise if they just explained it as I said I’ll read again and re-evaluate. Somewhat reminds me of my peta death tunnel but not entirely. As I’ve already said they’ve been constantly screaming I’m a SR of theirs as if to discredit and counter any attack I may have on them.

Flakes is more of a more blatantly aggressive scum such as Koba
Hercule is more of them being super slimy and manipulative

[JacksonVirgo]

Honestly if they’re ignoring me to make me not notice them they’re doing a good job, I don’t remember much of them at all tbh. Although I’ll make sure to get a read there when I read the game again

[JacksonVirgo]

Ah okay never mind then ahaha I’m tired

[JacksonVirgo]

kkoba is very interested in hercule case @jackson

Just got home, coming after shower + cleaning. I'm also not expecting anyone to reciprocate as nobody ever really does, as koba themselves would know but I'm gonna pitch it as best as I can.

[JacksonVirgo]

Alright so this is my first "re-catchup" post, I'm going to try my hardest to start as fresh as I possibly can, if I ask questions that get answered later feel free to ignore them. I will be updating my read list as I go, if I remember I will note my changes such as "Implosion a TL now" or something like that. Also if you scream at me for being so early in the game in a 40 page game, go suck a banana.

Spoiler: Pages 1-5

yoooo I was really excited for this to start and wrote an intro post this morning while I was hyped up on coffee and a

fresh town flip

but

now, thanks to an internet service provider who won’t be named (AT&T) i’m having a wifi outage so here I am assembling furniture on a friday night

i’ll vibe in the thread on mobile some but i’m already not really liking the experience so probably will be around more tmro

cheers happy to be here, i’m sure i’ll get a chance to introduce myself more

See bolded+underlined, they're starting to push that they're Town right off the very bat. Although I can also see this as them referring to an ongoing game but that's not allowed on this site so I am throwing that option out of the window. I don't have issues with people making an actual joke regarding how conftown they are or whatnot but what they're doing is like doing subliminal manipulation, I am not entirely sure how else to word it but it's slimy and manipulative.

oh my meme worked Hercule is actually town
yeeet

Is this a genuine read, if so can you explain this? It seems like it's half serious half meme, I don't see anything that leads them to be a town-read so I am assuming it's mostly meme.

oh my meme worked Hercule is actually town
yeeet

i mean yes but based on what?

This is still slightly manipulative but this is on the level that I was talking about earlier which is blatantly obvious and thus can come from a Town mindset playing around, so this one is less of an issue for me than the first one and the ones to come.

lmao i’m such a spammer even on mobile. 14 days. can’t burn myself out yet. be back in a bit

I have a slight tonal problem with this post, they weren't spamming nearly at all at this point yet they're bloating about how they are, whether or not this is an attempt to try and push the "I am posting a lot and thus town" or just it's a tonal discrepancy that I am getting triggered by.

Just do what feels right and folks will deal with it. Here watch.

VOTE: hercule

I wouldn't be super surprised if one of DGB/Ythan are buddies with hercule assuming hercule is scum here. But then again I am not super confident, probably leaning towards Ythan more than DGB but this talk is useless pre-flips.

VOTE: ythan

why

VOTE: hercule

Already nervous.

first of all, i’m asking questions because i’m used to generating a fuck ton of content early on, though the pacing of these games so far is much slower than i anticipated

secondly, what part of that post implies nervousness to you?

Yet another post which heavily implies that they're super Townie through post-count, this could very well be planned to link into the previous post. I am not sure how much experience hercule has under his belt but considering their wording I'm assuming at least they have a pretty decent amount of games under their belt.

it’s beautiful i’m so pocketed

Another tonal post I despise, but I believe this one is >rand confbias.

ironically this pacing is probably way more healthy than what i’m used to but it’s so boring

Yet another post pushing the same similar agenda, I understand one post but three? More? No

hercule you mentioned that you were really excited to get this game started this morning, does your enthusiasm vary by alignment at all?

by extension is your activity generally similar (and I assume high) as both alignments?

honestly no idea i haven’t flipped scum in like 6 months

on the whole i generally dread being scum but it’s been so long it would be a nice change of pace

The issue I have on this post is that it completely flips the entire question on it's head to push an agenda. If you haven't flipped scum in 6 months, you should still be able to remember if you have high or low activity. Instead you boast about how you haven't flipped scum in 6 months, which in itself is LAMIST and manipulative.
Not only that but both sentences are manipulative, I see this all too often in all my different mafia style games that I play, the latter sentence is entirely there to boost the fact that you're so townie. To reiterate, you never answered this question the way it was intended, you flipped it on it's head to push an agenda to appear super townie.

VOTE: the worst i wanted to play a town game with you for once Worsty

why did you roll scum without me

I like this for Town simply because both times I've read over ducky's posts I've had a moment of pause. I don't think duckyboi is scum, they're kinda null for me as of right now but IV mindmelded with my thoughts slightly and I think they're >rand town for doing so.

Rvs is a thing WE KNOW THIS

If this was a reaction to ducky "attacking" your vote on hercules than this is scummy, it's an over-defense that I don't think comes from non-paranoid players.

good vote unwnd, why did you make it though

Seems lowkey manipulative but still leaving room to shove unwnd's ass into the dumpster if need be. Still a null, but probably null-scum now tbh.

A lot of Hercule's initial posts were slimy as shown above let me know if you agree/disagree and if you can explain why I am wrong.

Spoiler: Pages 6-10

they're making towny noises and want people to townread them so I'm obliging! i'll work out if I'm wrong later. Where u at on them?

So you're seeing what I'm seeing, yet you decided to town-read them instead? Why

jackson will know i'm watching him either way (not in a creepy way jackson...)

VOTE: the worst

What made you think ducky is more likely scum than myself, neither of us actually posted between your vote on me and this one. Also don't beat around the bush, is that a FOS.

Hi. Uncrowned here.

Ythan is Town.

ABR is probably Town.

Dunnstral is probably Town.

Hopkirk's reasoning on JV's intro is reasonable, but I believe it is NAI for JV given the history between them, myself and The Worst.

I don't think a teammate reading the game is indicative of anything, but I guess I get the sentiment?

I don't think The Worst has been that awkward, I think that's just how he be sometimes.

Oh man, the legend himself. They said that they've explained these exact reads but ignoring that and focusing JUST on this post as I have no way of confirming otherwise without continuing. They don't explain a single word which is extremely unlike them, as I said, in ducky's PYP game they were incredibly townie and had a lot of good content, enough that I pretty much conftowned them even if the read wasn't reciprocated (I neighbourized them ahaha). I do not get the same tone from them as I expected town!uncrowned to post. I legitimately had to question whether or not I understood the first line because it did not sound like them. He also brushed off the read with ducky so imagine they did an omega betrayed and flipped mafia without me.

can you expand on what you mean about the opening? my issue shouldn't be history dependent unless you have an in joke you're talking about

I rolled scum in JV and I's first game on site. The Worst replaced in and it came down to us three in ELo and I won. Since then they've had like a revenge thing where they want to roll scum together in a game against me. Good times.

As for why I townlean ABR at the moment: He voted Dannflor immediately after Dann voted Ythan, which is exactly what I would have done had I been active at that point in the game. That was my initial reaction.

The flaw with this is that ABR may not have been voting Dann for that exact reason, but I'm happy to assume it unless he says otherwise.

You answered this AFTER getting asked to post reasonings for it, which is what I said earlier that would not weaken my argument against you, at least in my eyes. You mind-melded with ABR which is a fair reason to TR someone but why didn't you say that like I remember you being like instead of blind-posting reads on people which isn't helpful at all. Naked reads mean absolutely shit all as you should know.

Dunnstral mega town off of this interaction.

Let me reiterate, naked reads mean nothing and it's extremely unlike what I expect town!you to do.

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Next up on Hey Hey It's Not Saturday is the prestigious Hopkirk/Uncrowned interaction.

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it feels off since we just finished a game where you didn't TR ABR (definitely not early?) that you have a hard(?) read early.

Not hard.

And that's implying that I'm approaching this game the same way I did that game and implying that ABR did the exact same thing that game, which he didn't.

This is a valid counter-argument as they said "probably Town", although this is NAI in and of itself although you also said that Dunnstral is "probably Town" as well, what elevated that read?

It's not about whether or not you got vibes off him?

It feels like you'd rather just not engage with me on the topic of him possibly being scum?

Given the style you showed last game and how you started this game, I expected at least some interaction there, or some questioning along the lines of "elaborate on this" but instead you throw a softball about ABR that doesn't make a lot of sense in the first place?

Weird.

that's a lot of shade you're throwing at me. why would you expect me to comment on that? you having sus on someone wasn't noteworthy for me

I think this is a fairly town-indicative for Hopkirk here, Uncrowned is thinking everything he says is golden and that it should all be replied to and read. They continue to say that their read is "spicy" when it's really not.

The chances you just didn't find it worth talking about are decent, so I'm not opposed to just dropping it as a talking point for now.

If he flips red though you are getting tunneled.

I despise setting up lynch-orders early-game without mechanical reasonings, this adds partner equity to them both

1: It's a vanity.

2: I haven't commented on any of the others slots that have really been under pressure this game yet (Hercule, Innocent)

3: No-one else has called much attention to the slot yet.

I think with these facts alone, it's at least a reasonable assumption to think you'd take SOME interest in it, is it not?

You threw in the word spicy to make your case stronger, it is definitely not vanity so stop. To say this blunt, you're literally attacking the fact that they didn't feel the need to reply to a portion of your post.

A vanity is when one person is voting away from the current main wagons.

It's a bit of a stretch for me to call it a "vanity" but given where most of the attention is being centered in the game at the moment prior to our interaction, I don't think it's the worst description.

I honestly am finding it hard to understand a word you're saying to be completely honest.

CT
ACT
TR	innocentvillager
TL	Hopkirk
NR	the worst-
SL	Ythan
SR	hercule, Uncrowned
ACS
CS

[JacksonVirgo]

So you're seeing what I'm seeing, yet you decided to town-read them instead? Why

skipped earlier prompt because I figured you'd find this post

I think LAMIST posting is very slightly more likely to come from town at rand given current site culture where everyone seems to get excited about town role pms and curl up in the corner if they rand scum

it's only really a scum indicator in a broad context

so I'm willing to treat it as a superficial towntell on page one and revisit later in the game, yeah. I'm already getting cold on Hercule. Like there is literally no harm in me expressing a superficial read which I only give half a crap about in a really goofy way to try and get the game moving.

As I've said, I am completely fine with lamist behavior, it's when it tilts into blatant manipulation when it turns into something I despise.

[JacksonVirgo]

@Jackson Do you anticipate being caught up to Page 40 before we reach Page 90?

Yeah it should be done before 50, just if I don't give a break I start skipping posts and skimming instead of reading

[JacksonVirgo]

according to dkkoba, resident expert on all things hercule related, u smell jackson and ur case smells

Koba seems to have a giant ass bias against me anyway so this isn't a surprise

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll get to you soon Flakyboi

[JacksonVirgo]

I am once again disagreeing vehemently with an unwnd post. (Source: 918)

and?

As I've said, I am completely fine with lamist behavior, it's when it tilts into blatant manipulation when it turns into something I despise.

what about his posting makes you think it's blatantly manipulative rather than just run-of-the-mill self signalling? I actually think he's guilty of worse LAMIST posting than what you've quoted and I still don't think it makes him scum

Because it's hidden under layers, Town doesn't do that or if they do they should be yeeted

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll explain further soon

[JacksonVirgo]

Alright so this is my first "re-catchup" post, I'm going to try my hardest to start as fresh as I possibly can,

Why?

Because I felt like I was in a bad mindset going into it first and wanted to reset

[JacksonVirgo]

ABR, DGB, A50, JacksonVirgo, and recently Titus

Are you saying these are who you want to elim or those that are the general lhf?

[JacksonVirgo]

Wait why am I voting there, Hercule is > Flake.

VOTE: Hercule

[JacksonVirgo]

Flake is already a name I used for someone on my home site so it's just natural progression. I'm going to sleep so probably won't get the full-catchup prior to P50 but only right after.

[JacksonVirgo]

My back is fucked, save me dudes.

[JacksonVirgo]

To be completely honest with you, I am willing to set aside my two deathtunnels to elim Ythan if it comes down to it.