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Post Post #6150 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:01 pm

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Titus has been eliminated on Day Seven. She was a
Vanilla Townie
.

Nothing can prevent a win condition from being achieved.





Cephrir,
Vanilla Townie
, is endgamed.
Ythan,
Vanilla Townie
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Hopkirk,
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The
Mafia
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The following teams earn one point:

Team 'Team 'Team' Team' Team
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To those of you who stood with me through the remake, to the replacements throughout the event, I'm very, very grateful. It has been a long, fraught road, but with this, team mafia is coming to an end. There will be a post-game survey; please do take the time to answer it. Full setup info will be coming once I send it out.
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Post Post #6151 (ISO) » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:19 pm

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Original role assignments:

Almost50: Announcing Babysitter
Dannflor: 3-shot Announcing Neapolitan
innocentvillager: Announcing Vanilla Cop
DrippingGoofball: Tracker
Dunnstral: Odd-Night Vigilante
jjh927: Universal Backup

Titus, mastina, AGar, Xtoxm, Winter Flakes, Lady Lambdadelta, Cephrir, Ythan: 8x VT

OkaPoka: Multitasking Odd-Night Rolecop Even-Night Roleblocker
the worst: Informed 2-shot Activated Bulletproof ("There are three town roles with the "announcing" modifier")
hercule: Goon
Hopkirk: Goon

Spoiler: Night actions
implosion wrote:Night 1 actions:

Almost50 babysits Titus
Dannflor neapolitans DGB
innocentvillager doesn't submit an action
DGB tracks Bell (apparently. sent to Isis)
Dunnstral kills DGB

OkaPoka rolecops A50
Luca Blight kills Dannflor
Bell activates bulletproof


RESULTS:

Dannflor and DGB die; jjh inherits a 3-shot announcing neapolitan with 2 shots left due to above stated role inheritance priority.

jjh927 receives "You have now inherited the role of 3-shot Announcing Neapolitan. You have 2 shots remaining."

Titus receives "You were targeted by a Babysitter action."
OkaPoka receives "Almost50's role is Announcing Babysitter."

(nothing sent to DGB or Dann as they are dead, except a "you are dead" pm)
implosion wrote:Night 2 actions:

Almost50 babysits Ythan
jjh927 neapolitans Hopkirk
innocentvillager doesn't submit an action

OkaPoka blocks Dunnstral
OkaPoka kills Dunnstral
Bell activates bulletproof

RESULTS:

Dunnstral dies.

jjh927 receives "Hopkirk is NOT a Vanilla Townie."
Hopkirk receives "You were targeted by a Neapolitan action."

Ythan receives "You were targeted by a Babysitter action."

NOTE: I actually messed up action resolution this night. OkaPoka blocked Almost50, and I mistook the target. Ythan should not have received this PM, but I realized this just after sending the PM out, and decided the path of least harm was to simply treat announcing roles that are blocked as still sending messages for the remainder of the game (since this is technically not clarified on the wiki, though it should be). This never really affected anything so I don't feel too bad about the result.
implosion wrote:Night 3 actions:

Almost50 babysits innocentvillager
jjh927 neapolitans OkaPoka
innocentvillager doesn't submit an action

OkaPoka rolecops AGar
OkaPoka kills Xtoxm

RESULTS:

Xtoxm dies.

jjh927 receives "OkaPoka is NOT a Vanilla Townie."
OkaPoka receives "AGar is the vanilla role for their alignment."
OkaPoka receives "You were targeted by a Neapolitan action." (These will be in the same PM)

innocentvillager receives "You were targeted by a Babysitter action."

Also note: jjh is now out of shots.
implosion wrote:Night 4 actions:

Almost50 babysits innocentvillager
innocentvillager doesn't submit an action

Hopkirk kills Almost50

RESULTS:

Almost50 dies
innocentvillager dies

no need for any result PMs, as the only person targeted by an announcing role is dying.
implosion wrote:Night 5 actions:

Hopkirk kills jjh927

Results:

jjh927 dies.
implosion wrote:Night 6 actions:

Hopkirk kills mastina

Results:

mastina dies.
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Post Post #6152 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:52 pm

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GJ HoppityHopkirk, Oka, Luca.

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Post Post #6153 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:01 pm

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gg scumz
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Post Post #6154 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:09 pm

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Is it just me or was this a weird set up?
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Post Post #6155 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:10 pm

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Good job scum. Thank god it's over. Thank you mod.
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Post Post #6156 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:11 pm

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gg

enjoyable playerlist :]
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Post Post #6157 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 6156, Dannflor wrote:enjoyable playerlist
Yeah this nice too play with you everyone.
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Post Post #6158 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:19 pm

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Including a50 sorry I'm a bitch. And LLD sorry we didn't keep you longer.
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Post Post #6159 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 6157, Ythan wrote:too
Fuck you me
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Post Post #6160 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:42 pm

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[announcing] vanilla cop enabler

honestly, what a great fakeclaim lmfao

almost thought it was too wild to be fake lol
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Post Post #6161 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:46 pm

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I'm happy to talk about the setup design for this one (or the other) if people want. It basically started with the announcing roles, with the idea being that all of those roles give interesting info to the person being targeted regardless of whether they're town or scum (e.g. Hopkirk and Oka getting targeted by the neapolitan told them both that they needed to fakeclaim real roles).

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Post Post #6162 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:54 pm

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In post 6160, innocentvillager wrote:[announcing] vanilla cop enabler

honestly, what a great fakeclaim lmfao

almost thought it was too wild to be fake lol
It was something Smart's fourth tier of fake claim.
Hopkirk liked it the most.
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Post Post #6163 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:03 pm

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implo was I supposed to use my role before massclaim lol

the only night gypyx and I actually seriously considered using it was night 4 on hop or Titus (not that it would’ve mattered apparently cuz babysitter)
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Post Post #6164 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:18 pm

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Nice one, Hopkirk. Wp everyone

This was a really hard game to replace into as scum, what with it being a re-roll and everyone being so familiar with each other
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Post Post #6165 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:20 pm

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Thank you again for replacing.
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Post Post #6166 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:21 pm

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HOPKIRK YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD
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Post Post #6167 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:23 pm

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In post 6166, OkaPoka wrote:HOPKIRK YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD
dang you foresaw this exact scenario up to the lylo. well planned
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Post Post #6168 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:24 pm

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i felt a sort of catharsis from my death but the longer it went on the more I wished I was alive
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Post Post #6169 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 6160, innocentvillager wrote:[announcing] vanilla cop enabler

honestly, what a great fakeclaim lmfao

almost thought it was too wild to be fake lol
I wish I had came up with it.

I just said claim visitor or just claim PR and hope no one asks to buy time.

PRs kinda claimed early for the most part. I wish we had swapped games because I did horrible in mine.
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Post Post #6170 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:26 pm

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i wanted hop to claim enabler + 1 shot cop because i thought pure enabler was just silly but i mean he lived
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Post Post #6171 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:26 pm

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The announcing vanilla cop was not intended to be negative utility. Announcing, as I see it, isn't really negative utility in isolation, at least; you're informing someone that a role exists, but that's not a super exploitable piece of information. If you hit scum then you're telling them what they need to claim but that's not
negative utility
, it just means that you're forcing something they might not have wanted to do.

Part of the point of the role in this setup was to potentially synergize with the neapolitan; if the neap gets a not-a-VT result and the vanilla cop gets a vanilla result, then the scum is put in a nothing-i-can-claim-saves-me situation, though this would only work on the two goons.

I think the scumteam did a few things that were very impressive in this game. First off was pulling off the fakeclaim obviously; it kind of makes sense in the setup with symmetry with the announcing neapolitan being gated, the issue from a design perspective being that vanilla cop doesn't really need to be gated in that way. Hopkirk managing to find a fake breadcrumb out of whole cloth and present it believably was impressive. Second was associatives; I feel like scum did an unusually good job making associatives really muddy. I definitely don't envy luca or bell having to replace in with the context of the first game, though obviously as I said I am very grateful to both of them.
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Post Post #6172 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:27 pm

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Oh also jjh getting two shots and picking the two people he did is pretty damn impressive.
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Post Post #6173 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:56 pm

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In post 6167, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 6166, OkaPoka wrote:HOPKIRK YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD
dang you foresaw this exact scenario up to the lylo. well planned
If I am to be honest, us scum bois did not plan it out like this at all :oops:

It was more, we fucked up losing control of the thread and we kinda undid the fuck ton of work that went into day 1/start of d2 to basically split the game into two factions, and the only way we could salvage a win out of this mess was this. Again, shoutout to hopkirk for salvaging it because even though he ended up being townread n2 during elo, getting there from how doomed it looked after 3 chained scumlims is not an easy task.
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Post Post #6174 (ISO) » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:00 pm

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game 1 scumthread?
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