TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

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Norwegian was unable to win this game without Nancy changing her vote to me.

Nancy-Ramcius in the final 4 would not have done that ever this game.

He couldn't kill Nancy because there wasn't ever a chance that I as scum would have killed you.

Ram decided it was you/Shea, so why does Norwee put himself through that just to frame you?

And why did you never want to kill Shea?

He didn't decide on me, he was pushing it and temporarily considering it.

I do not believe Ramcius would have pushed me today without discussing it with me.

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Yeah I’ve see scum do that sometimes but in many games they don’t so the RvS buddy thing really isn’t a reliable tell.

It just seems counterintuitive for Norwee to kill Ram, when Ram was 100% going to vote you. The Shea self hammer gives me pause though but why did you hammer Pine before he could present his Jingle case?

the case was on Status and Myself.

The only thing that it would have done was make it more likely I get misfaded

Pine jk on you would guilty Norwee and clear you with a no kill.

Why would Pine JK me? I was doccing Akarin.

Also, why did I protect Akarin, who I called out as a PR, mind you, to push claimed Vanilla Norwegian.

[Nancy Drew 39]

And from the POV I was in, I needed Pine or Norwegian dead, the inverse of Ramcius.

I realized Ramcius and I were seeing the game from effectively the same position, but me being locked with Norwegian, and Ramcius being locked with Status.


Ramcius became conf town when Status flipped Red.

Probably when Pine flipped green, so Ramcius/Akarin were both conf town, don't think Akarin was higher than Ramcius there, they were the same, except Ramcius took more time to go over the options, and was effectively more dangerous and harder to convice than Akarin.

Ramcius would have let me speak and did analysis with me, even if he thought I was scum, and I guarantee you, we would have talked it through in a way where you would have seen without a doubt as well that Norwegian was scum

Ram thought it was you/Shea before he died. And you always pushed Norwee > Shea.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yeah I’ve see scum do that sometimes but in many games they don’t so the RvS buddy thing really isn’t a reliable tell.

It just seems counterintuitive for Norwee to kill Ram, when Ram was 100% going to vote you. The Shea self hammer gives me pause though but why did you hammer Pine before he could present his Jingle case?

the case was on Status and Myself.

The only thing that it would have done was make it more likely I get misfaded

Pine jk on you would guilty Norwee and clear you with a no kill.

Why would Pine JK me? I was doccing Akarin.

Also, why did I protect Akarin, who I called out as a PR, mind you, to push claimed Vanilla Norwegian.

That’s why you shouldn’t have hammered him because you’d be clear.

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in thread protected, because I was defending Akarin on Day 2.

Had I pushed Akarin, and if I was scum, that would have actively prevented DEB from being shot.

For me to have been scum this game, you have to believe I played this game essentially by myself because Status/DEB line does absolutely nothing in conjunction with me, but it assists Norwegian's pushes completely.

DEB and I would have played some type of gambit.

I don't know.

I just think these are actively things that show that I am town, but I'm unsure how else to get you to believe it.

At this point, it's not really important for me to explain why people did what, I just know for a fact he did for some reason at this point.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Only Pine/Ram wanted Shea.

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it's whatever

let's just end this game


i don't know what to tell ya, Nancy.

I do things people don't like when I'm town. It is what it is

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that's why Ramcius died, Nancy. =/

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I do not regret hammering Pine.

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i learned i was right this entire game on Norwegian with it, which lead me to town reading Ramcius 100%

[Nancy Drew 39]

in thread protected, because I was defending Akarin on Day 2.

Had I pushed Akarin, and if I was scum, that would have actively prevented DEB from being shot.

For me to have been scum this game, you have to believe I played this game essentially by myself because Status/DEB line does absolutely nothing in conjunction with me, but it assists Norwegian's pushes completely.

DEB and I would have played some type of gambit.

I don't know.

I just think these are actively things that show that I am town, but I'm unsure how else to get you to believe it.

At this point, it's not really important for me to explain why people did what, I just know for a fact he did for some reason at this point.

That’s true but I’ve seen scum do the whole good cop/bad cop thing too. I don’t remember Norwee’s interactions with Akarin but you hardpushed Norwee and he hardpushed Pine.

Only ones who were gunning for Akarin D2 were Shea/TGP.

I think I will wait for Akarin’s catch up.

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I don't know, Nancy, those few things you pushed right there just wouldn't have been a thing if I were scum here.

ive done all i could this game to get people to follow me, and I absolutely could not gain momentum this game

that doesn't happen when i am scum

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Only ones who were gunning for Akarin D2 were Shea/TGP.

exactly.

And I called Status out for poorly pushing Akarin, who was likely a PR.

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TGP, DEB, Status is an interesting way too early solve.

=/ close

[Nancy Drew 39]

I will wait for her catchup and reread the game. This game is giving me a massive headache. :/

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VOTE: Zoraster
Ramcius wagon isn't bad either, but why be a sheep when you can vote 2nd scum.

I'm inclined to believe that Norwee is town in general because of parallels between his posting here and in the first day of mbos 10 and dung beetle, but this post throws me a bit because it feels contrived. which is not necessarily a ridiculously scum ai thing to do in rvs but is definitely eyebrow raising in general.

this lead to Norwegian trying to pocket him Day 2

[Nancy Drew 39]

But please keep quoting stuff, that helps me a lot.

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TheGoldenParadox(6) ~ Nancy Drew 39(286), Akarin(49), Ramcius(70), Iconeum(223), Mistyx(71),

NorwegianboyEE(318) -- HAMMER
NorwegianboyEE(2) ~

Flavor Leaf(420), Pine(56)

Flavor Leaf(1) ~ TheGoldenParadox(17)

Akarin

(1) ~

thestatusquo

(90)


Not Voting (1):

Dr Easy Bake

(12)

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But please keep quoting stuff, that helps me a lot.

im doing it for akarin too.

i dont know if it means anything, but ill try and put a little effort in, i guess

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nah Pine, Norwee Town

So you think it’s TvT then? Can you explain your confidence on town!Pine? Do you have a read on FL yet or no?

I don’t understand why Norwee is the counterwagon to Akarin?

That post was talking to Pine since they had just came at Norwee. I could go either way with Pine honestly.
I think some people just don’t like Norwee, that’s why they’re the counter.

No, he's actually scummy

Hmmm . . .

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pooky is beyond convinced on FL!scum/Norwee!town ftr.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah Pooky and Dkkoba have a good head and i think it’s quite obvious FL killed Ram here and he’s doing the same old trick of "but Norwee WIFOMED it!"

[NorwegianboyEE]

FL’s self-intent is really fake btw and designed to make Nancy reconsider as he clearly has no intention of self-hammering. It’s something he does a lot as scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

like, im obviously biased because i know im town, but ramcius kill just happened so Norwegian would flip you

This is gold. In what insane world does it look like i started this game with the intent to flip on Nancy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh you meant something else, nvm that last post.