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Post Post #3225 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:14 pm

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In post 3105, OkaPoka wrote:Mathblade is fairly confident that Mastina/Xtoxm is scum.
In post 3110, OkaPoka wrote:He thinks that mastina calling his reads very hit or miss is not how reads work
And yet, with MathBlade having scumreads on me, Xtoxm, and Titus?

He's 0 for 3 because I'm town, Titus is town, and Xtoxm is town, sooooooooo.

When I said his reads would be hit-or-miss, feast-or-famine.

That assessment was dead-on accurate because he's completely missed. :P He's got zero right scumreads, so when I said he'd be hit or miss, a characterization he said isn't accurate...it actually was because he did a complete miss here. It's simply fact. Because I am town, I overwhelmingly feel Xtoxm is town, and this is Titus's towngame. So as long as he has scumreads on all three of us, he has a complete miss so I will stand by my assessment.
In post 3116, Xtoxm wrote:he's also telling me to claim; we are a tracker.
This is sadly nai--when I came in and did setup spec, I was expecting scum to have [partial redaction on setup spec], with a fairly weak investigative. I was guessing [redacted due to setup spec], but tracker would be loosely comparable to [redacted guess] in power for the scum.

And when I did setup spec for the town roles, tracker fit into the power I expected, too. So the claim is entirely null. I believe it's a real claim; I just can't call it a town claim, rip.
In post 3088, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3086, AGar wrote:3079 is hoooorseshit.
why?
My guess: AGar misread the room and thought that him saying this would, with people already running Xtoxm up, not be something that people would call out.
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Post Post #3226 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:22 pm

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You can't do setup spec without any flips lmao.
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Post Post #3227 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:23 pm

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In post 3224, unwnd wrote:I'm not processing these recent pages all too well
I'm just not in mafia mindset right now, but I don't imagine for this to be forever
Fair warning, I gotta dip out for a similar reason--another obligation is taking my attention. Has been since halfway through my second post.
In post 3198, the worst wrote:if anyone wants to towncase him, hit me.
ABR wouldn't be playing this shit as scum. :P
In post 3127, the worst wrote:- assuming AGar/Xtoxm are both town (SS' read) there is one scum defending them
AGar isn't town but if there's scum defending Xtoxm it'd be Ythan, tho that's not an elimination I'd want to push.
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Post Post #3228 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:24 pm

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In post 3226, Cephrir wrote:You can't do setup spec without any flips lmao.
You can when you're a NRG member who has a reasonably good guess for what the roles in this game will be just off of years of experience in the NRG. :P
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Post Post #3229 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:25 pm

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In post 2839, Xtoxm wrote:ythan - he had one post that pinged me 728
Btw, about this: Which of you has 700 posts in their team PT? In fact, which of you is even using the PT over discord???

The guys is saying post by
ythan
pinged him, and seeing as post 728 is indeed by Ythan I believe it was either a typo Xtoxm made or a glitch in the ssytem.

Want more proof? Check this out:

viewtopic.php?p=12395493#p12395493 < This is where Xtoxm link is
viewtopic.php?p=12510537#p12510537 < This is the thread's opening post (post 0)
viewtopic.php?p=12501542#p12501542 < You know what that is? That's the opening post of the
Team Mafia 2021 Information
thread

So I traced some games and found these two adjacent posts:
viewtopic.php?p=12395485#p12395485
viewtopic.php?p=12395498#p12395498

Both were made on Dec 6, and that's the date of the post Xtoxm's link redirects tom as the number clearly shows (12395498 > 12395493 > 12395485)

Now here's a question for you all: Did I really have to do all the work to show this post is not from Xtoxm's team PT, nor is it from the Scum PT?? Couldn't ANY of you have checked for themselves???

Now, in light if this I want you to reevaluate the slots using THIS to vote Xtoxm. THANK YOU

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Post Post #3230 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:26 pm

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In post 2977, mastina wrote:
In post 2974, innocentvillager wrote:nah i don't believe xtoxm asked team to proofread reads in the team PT when they supposedly don't care about this game
Doesn't need to be asking team to proofread.

You can make drafts for posts in a PT with no need for the team to preview;
You can craft a post using a PT without posting it in the PT and after crafting it in the PT post it to the game thread.

The PT slip is grasping at straws.
Using my own skewed logic THIS is proof mastina is TOWN. Period.

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Post Post #3231 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 pm

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In post 3168, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I didn't believe the investigative claim in a recent game and yeeted sircakez who ended exactly what he said he was despite me being also a similar investigative. Had we given him time, instead of being full of ourselves, we would have won. Voting xtoxm is stupid at this point. If he's scum I'll laugh.
But according to your reads list, he's my buddy - why do you want to keep him around?
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Post Post #3232 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:30 pm

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In post 3196, OkaPoka wrote:either a) we trust xtoxm TRACKER claim and we let him out information until we hit lylo and then we can judgement call on him then or b) we do not trust the claim and flip him now

reconsidering him every day is the worst path regardless of what xtoxm actually is
Will we believe any results?
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Post Post #3233 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 3228, mastina wrote:
In post 3226, Cephrir wrote:You can't do setup spec without any flips lmao.
You can when you're a NRG member who has a reasonably good guess for what the roles in this game will be just off of years of experience in the NRG. :P
I was an NRG member and that's ridiculous.
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Post Post #3234 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 3232, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3196, OkaPoka wrote:either a) we trust xtoxm TRACKER claim and we let him out information until we hit lylo and then we can judgement call on him then or b) we do not trust the claim and flip him now

reconsidering him every day is the worst path regardless of what xtoxm actually is
Will we believe any results?
it'll be hard to believe results without flips but its just how it goes, its a messy situation, but its interesting and can be subject to post game analysis
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Post Post #3235 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 3013, OkaPoka wrote:ythan lets play a game

why is xtoxm town
I want to play too.

Because SCUM are abgle0shooting in a bid to lim him today. Xtoxm is easy to push early game and his reaction is almost always like this, so this is an easy mis-lim that won't probably have any negative side effects on them.

Now let me ask you what you think is SCUMMY from him. I do get that he's lurking and you don't like that. Fine. But what feels like him pushing any kind of
scum agenda
? Because I do assure you, Scum!Xtoxm will certainly have one.

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Post Post #3236 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:37 pm

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This "now or never" line from DGB doesn't make me trust her any more.
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Post Post #3237 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:38 pm

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i think im the one who is pushing now or never
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Post Post #3238 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:41 pm

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My sensibilities tell me to let Xtoxm get through this day, and not just on the merit of his claim

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Post Post #3239 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:41 pm

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In post 3227, mastina wrote:AGar isn't town but if there's scum defending Xtoxm it'd be Ythan, tho that's not an elimination I'd want to push.
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Post Post #3240 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:41 pm

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I feel like bumping up Ythan a notch up for his defence of tom

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Post Post #3241 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 3237, OkaPoka wrote:i think im the one who is pushing now or never
You don't want to put a stick in the spokes of ABR's confias like that.
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Post Post #3242 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

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are you buddying me dgb ;-;
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Post Post #3243 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:46 pm

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ON Discord, a team mate mentions really hating Cephrir's 3094.

Same team mate tells me that Xtoxm is limbait (we ll know), has a gut read on Xtoxm based on referring back to his team's posting. Mentions that Xtoxm doesn't generally care about getting the yeet. Finds suspicious that the wagon settled on him.
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Post Post #3244 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 3242, OkaPoka wrote:are you buddying me dgb ;-;
It's working.
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Post Post #3245 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 3242, OkaPoka wrote:are you buddying me dgb ;-;
BIG TIME

Can't help it
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Post Post #3246 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 3084, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3082, innocentvillager wrote:fine ill drop the PT thing
Whether it came from Team PT or Scum PT doesn't matter. It's still copy that he tried to pass as his own.

And now, another player is writing AtE for him. Not scum hunting, because that's effort and can be challenged by OkaPoka J Chicken, Esq. Just AtE.
And this is why DGB is overly scummy. I don't believe for ONE BLOODY SECOND that she doesn't check the url herself to verify WHEN the post linked was made.

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Post Post #3247 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:48 pm

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in times like these i pray for radiantcowbells
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Post Post #3248 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:49 pm

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And I fucking do realize my argument (about DGB) is falling on deaf ears, so I'm just making it for MY OWN SAKE (post-game I get to brag about it)

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Post Post #3249 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:49 pm

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I don't like Discord, I'm there with the phone in one hand while I'm on desktop.
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