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[Jodaxq]

why do I get the feeling that’s Trans is intentionally being on the other side of Zach?

How can Schadd post so much (49) and say so little?

These are both very good observations

[Jodaxq]

Joda what I don't get is why you sr Firaja but prefer to vote UC

Uc voyager as scum doesn't get to day 3 playing like this

I guess this is somewhat irrelevant now since UCV is going to be replaced, but I've already answered that. I feel like there are a great many reasons why UCV would play this way as scum.
I have a scum lean on Firaja. Once NSG starts posting hopefully I'll have a better idea on the slot, but I am not feeling strongly enough to vote there. I'd support and EE lynch at this point over Firaja/NSG.

[KidAmn]

yea. i think it is fair to
@mod replace me. ):

i am sorry to do this, but people have been continuing to tell me I need to cut down on the games I am in. I have not been paying attention to the game as well. I love the flavor of the vote counts, but I have found myself uninterested in this game. I have also had a lot on my mind recently about how much time im spending on this site. A lot of my freinds are getting annoyed about the amount of time I spend on this site. I love the site and the game. I will continue to play games here, but I also need to lower the amount of games im in. Hopefully, by doing this, I can do better in the games I am in, and do better IRL

Request Noted, Seeking Replacement. Vote Count To Follow Shortly.

[KidAmn]

Vote Count Eight, Or "I, Uh... I May Have A Problem. *sobs*"

Srceenplay (3): Firaja, Jodaxq, cytheflyguy
northsidegal (2): Katyusha, Zachstralkita
Jodaxq (2): Srceenplay, Schadd
Everyone Else (2): Havo, Keychain
Transcend (1): Everyone Else
cytheflyguy (1): Transcend


Not Voting (2): Dunnstral, wavemode

Day 1 Will End With One Of You Realising You've Spent So Much Time On This Damn Website That In The Real World, Everyone Else Has Moved On. They've Found Love, Taken Up New Hobbies, Moved Apartments To The Nice Side Of Town, And Become Regulars At That Mexican Place You Always Wanted To Try But Could Never Get Everyone To Agree On, And Now You're Sat Here, Failing To Deal With The Crushing Psychological Trauma... Or In (expired on 2017-11-28 21:00:00).

With Thirteen Alive, Seven Votes Are Required To Lynch.

Seeking Replacement For UC Voyager.

[KidAmn]

Srceenplay Replaces UC Voyager.

[Srceenplay]

23 pages. That’s readable.


If needed.


Good luck to you UC

[Zachstralkita]

It's Happened.

[northsidegal]

i'm here, currently typing up some reads now.

[northsidegal]

Okay then

Did you think your slot was getting a red or green pm?

oh, i misinterpreted this the first time i read it - are you asking if i replaced in thinking that my slot was town or scum? i honestly don't follow games that i'm just reading as close as games that i'm playing in, so the slot was null for me. that didn't factor into anything, though - i was on the replacement queue and had no idea who i was replacing.

[northsidegal]

okay, so here are my thoughts having followed along with the thread and done a quick reread.

can someone explain the wagon on the ucv slot to me? i get that he really hasn't done much this game except for a weak push on jodaxq, but i'm not sure that that's especially alignment-indicative enough to warrant a lynch. lynches for "null" behavior like that have always struck me as lazy in the same way as lurker lynches. with that in mind i'm not necessarily saying i'm against it today, just saying that hopefully screenplay can clarify the read there on that slot.

i'm getting a scumlean from jodax, but it's something i'm constantly doubting myself on. the intial motivation for ucv makes total sense to me - ucv wasn't really contributing anything but was clearly in the thread, so that warrants suspicion. at this point, though, i wonder about the motivation behind singling out ucv specifically over other posters who weren't really contributing much or were just lurking it out. the later continuation of the read and the justifications are what leads to the scumread - specifically, i take issue with this:

3. It's not about low contributing, it's about fake contributing. In that same newbie game I hard cased sheepsaysmeep (who was scum) very early on in the game for similar reasons as I'm casing you now. He posted a lot of fake contibution (he always wanted pagetops and asked for reads instead of provided) and I feel like you're doing the same with your asking about meme posting or trying to keep people from insulting one another.

jodax, what makes you read ucv's posts specifically as intentionally fake contributions as opposed to just intentional non-contributions? you're saying that he's attempting to put forward the image of contributing but to me it seems like he never attempted to put forward that pretense.

another thing that grabs my attention is the explanation of ucv's actions in 489. it just doesn't make sense to me: ucv's actions can hardly be considered a serious push and the explanation doesn't explain anything outside of the one post where ucv says he scumreads jodax.

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i wonder how easy this game would be if i took it seriously. lol
i am 100% positive scum want to lynch bait me.

I love how this post precedes your boldest read of the game. So I'm guessing you made this post so if I turn up vanilla civ you can just say you weren't taking it seriously, right? Making sure you cover all your bases is a typical scum move.

finally, this post just exudes someone twisting facts to fit their beliefs and constructing narratives. this is a telltale sign of either a confbiased townie or scum who deliberately has to contrive pushes on people given that they already know everyone's alignment. i'm getting the feeling that it's the latter of the two.

splitting the rest up to avoid a wall for transcend's sake.

[northsidegal]

woah, i was just reviewing a bit more and this jumps out to me a lot. katayusha, can you explain your scumread on firaja? where does it come from?

i think i'll have a lot more to say after you answer.

[northsidegal]

the feeling i get from reading schadd's iso is that he seems to take for granted that some people are town. whereas he's commented on his townread on keychain given that the topic of keychain being scum was brought up, it seems to me like without any discussion or at least visible reasoning he's accepted transcend, zach and katayusha as being town. this could just as easily come from familiarity with the players as it could from already knowing everyone's alignment and only commenting on cases that other people bring up (to give the appearance of activity or of deliberation), so i'm not making this as some huge alignment indicative point.

schadd, could say who you townread and explain why?

[Transcend]

Yer I kinda want to vote joda again

[Keychain]

Welcome, North and Srceen! Lovely to see both of you again. Bye Firaja and UCV.

Joda's dropped out of top three for me. North, do you have anything more than a lean on anyone, or is Joda your top scumread?

[Transcend]

Let's lynch cy

[northsidegal]

Welcome, North and Srceen! Lovely to see both of you again. Bye Firaja and UCV.

Joda's dropped out of top three for me. North, do you have anything more than a lean on anyone, or is Joda your top scumread?

hey keychain! reads are still changing as i read the thread closer now that i'm actually in here and there are some things i'm keeping to myself for now - i should be able to tell you with confidence soon.

[Keychain]

I see, okay.

Let's lynch cy

Sure. I'd also be good with EE and Zach as of right now. There's a couple people "supporting" the EE wagon but not voting him which makes me want to push that, but Cy is probably scum.

VOTE: cytheflyguy


@Zach: I feel like a lot of your scumread on Firaja is scumreading inexperience, and it makes you maintaining a townread on Joda seem really awkward in comparison.

Also

You've been hopping from mislynch to mislynch cause scum are driving lynches

if it wasnt clear before i was reallt asking joda why i'd be lynch shopping as scum with plurality
assuming even two of these wagons could be town makes it not hard to just idle on a wagon...

...how does lynch hopping make me scum and you town

This is extremely frustrating. I had serious problems with lurkers/replacements in my newbie game and I considered not playing anymore because of it. I was told, however, that beyond the newbie queue this was a lot less of a problem. Like yeah it's a small sample size but we have two people who are not doing anything and are clearly prod dodging (Everyone Else and Dunnstral), we have two people being replaced with a third looking like it's on its way. On top of that, we have "active" members like Schadd who hasn't hardly posted anything relevant and Katyusha who admits she's been useless. It's a pretty bad time when I'm talking about Wavemode as having one of the better contributions to the game.

I agree, it's frustrating. You're right, it's a small sample size - some games are better than others in this respect. Newbies

are

really bad for replacements. Don't let this drive you off.

Sort the active players, do what you can to get the content you need out of the lurkers, appreciate the players who replace into a flaked slot.

[Srceenplay]

Is every single player in this game an alt

Am I an alt?

Side note, I’m assuming it’s 10v3 because I already caught them all.

[Transcend]

okay

do tell

[Srceenplay]

Firaja (3): Schadd, Katyusha, cytheflyguy

Town being lynched by town town and scum

Scum scum and scum

How often does that happen early?

[Srceenplay]

okay

do tell

I’m still skimming

[Srceenplay]

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This is a good stopping point.
Bed time.
Read a page after this but glossed over

[Srceenplay]

Firaja (3): Schadd, Katyusha, cytheflyguy

Town being lynched by town town and scum

Scum scum and scum

How often does that happen early?

So far Cy the least out of the three.

[Transcend]

define: scum!katy

[Zachstralkita]

TFW U WRITE A POST JUST TO GET LOCKED OUT WELL GEE THANKS ISN'T THAT FUCKING DANDY