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Post Post #625  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:45 am

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implosion (3): Havo, Mumble, Gamma Emerald
Mumble (2): Tchill13, implosion
Ausuka (3): katherine, Creature, MariaR
Cedrick (1): brassherald
Luca Blight (1): Ausuka
Havo (3): Luca Blight, Killthestory, Cedrick

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With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

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Post Post #626  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:47 am

In post 618, Havo wrote:
In post 616, Luca Blight wrote:So what was your early townread on him based on, then?


78 and 84.

And if you will notice, I called him “slight town MAYBE”


Right, I don't get why you're 'slight' townreading those posts?

is literally just him saying "god dammit people", and is one of his worst this game, in my opinion.

I don't get how you 'like' those posts but don't like anything else he's posted? That somehow doesn't feel genuine to me.

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Post Post #627  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:58 am

In post 626, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 618, Havo wrote:
In post 616, Luca Blight wrote:So what was your early townread on him based on, then?


78 and 84.

And if you will notice, I called him “slight town MAYBE”


Right, I don't get why you're 'slight' townreading those posts?

is literally just him saying "god dammit people", and is one of his worst this game, in my opinion.

I don't get how you 'like' those posts but don't like anything else he's posted? That somehow doesn't feel genuine to me.


78 is a town entrance IMO. I see it as a genuine thought or reaction.
I would expect scum to be just a bit more calculated there.

84 he’s spitting out evaluations of posts I agree with or at least can see the viewpoints
They don’t feel forced to me.

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Post Post #628  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:59 am

In post 600, Havo wrote:Okay I’m doing I the normal way from now on.


you're just struggling lol.

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Post Post #629  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:00 pm

In post 628, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 600, Havo wrote:Okay I’m doing I the normal way from now on.


you're just struggling lol.

hmmmm?
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Post Post #630  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:01 pm

somebody tell me the difference in mumble, katherine and havo. the difference that makes havo scum but the other two town.

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Post Post #631  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:01 pm

I’m being completely genuine. So I don’t see from my perspective how anyone could argue that I’m not.

So I see anyone arguing that case as just a wee bit suspicious, ya know?

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Post Post #632  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:04 pm

wtf i just realized someone fucked with my wiki months ago lol
meh.

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Post Post #633  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:06 pm

In post 627, Havo wrote:
In post 626, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 618, Havo wrote:
In post 616, Luca Blight wrote:So what was your early townread on him based on, then?


78 and 84.

And if you will notice, I called him “slight town MAYBE”


Right, I don't get why you're 'slight' townreading those posts?

is literally just him saying "god dammit people", and is one of his worst this game, in my opinion.

I don't get how you 'like' those posts but don't like anything else he's posted? That somehow doesn't feel genuine to me.


78 is a town entrance IMO. I see it as a genuine thought or reaction.
I would expect scum to be just a bit more calculated there.

84 he’s spitting out evaluations of posts I agree with or at least can see the viewpoints
They don’t feel forced to me.


Ok, but the part I'm having trouble believing is that after giving implosion a generous slight townread based on those two posts, you now claim not to have liked anything he's posted since.

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Post Post #634  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:06 pm

In post 630, Tchill13 wrote:somebody tell me the difference in mumble, katherine and havo. the difference that makes havo scum but the other two town.

First off Katherine is a townread, but Havo has also been very active and engaged while Mumble hasn't, and Katherine has been engaged but not active.
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Post Post #635  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:07 pm

In post 632, Killthestory wrote:wtf i just realized someone fucked with my wiki months ago lol

huh
what made you check
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Post Post #636  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:07 pm

it's very telling that mumble grew then all of a sudden he was "lynchbait". Scum could have called him lynch bait. No i don't know for certain his alignment. Lynching a townie scum can EASILY use to manipulate is the next best thing to lynching scum. The odds of him being scum are 1 in 4. If he's scum that gets away with it day 1 he'll get away with it days 2, 3 and 4. Same goes for katherine.

I always try to look at the benefit of mislynching opposed to lynching. If there's an avenue to persue if X player flips town and if theres an avenue to persue if the same player flips scum. Sure we want to lynch scum every time but we simply can't. Plus, there's no concrete evidence he or katherine is town.

seriously people every wagon half the votes are naked votes. That's not good for reading day 1 later on in the game. We shouldn't allow a wagon made up of naked votes.

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Post Post #637  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:09 pm

In post 629, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 628, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 600, Havo wrote:Okay I’m doing I the normal way from now on.


you're just struggling lol.

hmmmm?


with the quotes.

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Post Post #638  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:11 pm

TChill please look past the activity and look at Katehrine's content please, thoughts will be required
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Post Post #639  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:15 pm

In post 592, Luca Blight wrote:This Implosion wagon is terrible, and Havo is the one who looks worst on it imo.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Havo

In post 602, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: Havo

In post 619, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: havo


ok so we can agree a wagon is not really a threat until about vote 4 on a 7 to lynch right?

so arguably the most important votes on a wagon are the one's that get the wagon to "real possibility" territory.

Votes 2, 3 and 4 imo. The 1st vote carries very little weight alone.

I'm gonna need a reason for those votes. They look like "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" votes. As in you just want someone lynched.

KTS has voted about half the player list at this point When he had Scum!Tchill nailed from the get go, called him town then nailed him again later.

This is one of many oppurtunistic Cedrick moves i've seen and of the players that contributed im closest to voting him.

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Post Post #640  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:18 pm

In post 621, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 619, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: havo

Was hping to see some logic behind this

he is one of the people i'm ok lynching and want to see what he does with some pressure on him.
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Post Post #641  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:19 pm

In post 630, Tchill13 wrote:somebody tell me the difference in mumble, katherine and havo. the difference that makes havo scum but the other two town.

who is saying that?
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Post Post #642  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:20 pm

In post 638, Gamma Emerald wrote:TChill please look past the activity and look at Katehrine's content please, thoughts will be required


Activity isn't AI. It is required to show the rest of the game that you're town though. I'm talking Strong TR. So while the "content" hasn't been scummy I'd like to continue with a group ik is going to play the game. That can be transparently town when i need them to be. I can't trust Katherine or Mumble atm but would love to play with them if they actually decide to participate. (Tone reads only seem to be made when it comes to players with low content. If you can read someone on tone that's great. I can't.)

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Post Post #643  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:21 pm

In post 641, Cedrick wrote:
In post 630, Tchill13 wrote:somebody tell me the difference in mumble, katherine and havo. the difference that makes havo scum but the other two town.

who is saying that?


anybody that votes havo.

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Post Post #644  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:22 pm

In post 476, Cedrick wrote:
In post 472, Mumble wrote:
In post 463, Cedrick wrote:can I get some reads from you


Yes.

{Creature, Killthestory}
{Gamma Emerald, MariaR}
{Tchill13, Ausuka, brassherald, Havo}
{katherine, Luca Blight, Cedrick}
{implosion}

In post 463, Cedrick wrote:with some explanation for them?


No.

VOTE: mumble

In post 619, Cedrick wrote:VOTE: havo


past RVS this looks to be you're only serious votes.

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Post Post #645  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:25 pm

In post 642, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 638, Gamma Emerald wrote:TChill please look past the activity and look at Katehrine's content please, thoughts will be required


Activity isn't AI. It is required to show the rest of the game that you're town though. I'm talking Strong TR. So while the "content" hasn't been scummy I'd like to continue with a group ik is going to play the game. That can be transparently town when i need them to be. I can't trust Katherine or Mumble atm but would love to play with them if they actually decide to participate. (Tone reads only seem to be made when it comes to players with low content. If you can read someone on tone that's great. I can't.)

When Katherine has participated she's been pretty towny imo, that's why I wanted you to read her posts, so that I could try to get you to see that, but you seem to be having more fun discrediting her so u-do-u
VOTE: TChill13
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Post Post #646  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:26 pm

In post 73, Killthestory wrote:i understand, man, and i'm cognizant of that now that i realize you truly had no idea what you were doing (and i mean that in the nicest way possible) with no ulterior scum agenda. i would like to know still how much experience you have with mafia in general though because from your join date, i thought you'd have a lot more.

VOTE: Mumble
this almost always hits a wolf.

btw iirc mariar has played a game where we were both wolves, but that was a while ago.

In post 259, Killthestory wrote:wait nvm read the game maria linked. he's scum here LOL.

i've nailed like 2 wolves already, but there might be a wolf eluding me. depends on tchill's flip.

deepwolf: maria or gamma (this depends on flips), implosion, mumble, tchill wolves.

ausoka, katherine gotta be sorted.

i think that's sorta gamesolving, but a wolf might be eluding me.

In post 337, Killthestory wrote:scummy mumble pop in

In post 382, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: implosion

this guy cant make a solid read on anyone not being aggressive and not being scummy looool. shuld probably get him out of here.

In post 387, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: Mumble

In post 602, Killthestory wrote:VOTE: Havo


So he votes mumble. Nails me as scum after the linked game (DOESN'T change his vote though). Stays on "Scummy" Mumble.

So i'm assuming he feels great about his mumble, Tchill scum reads.

Votes implsion for decent reasoning, i'm not gonna argue with it. Then the naked vote on havo... Looks to me he's making the easiest pushes he can make.

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Post Post #647  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:28 pm

Tchill, you're criticising others for naked votes, but you've had your own fair share:

In post 81, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: mumble


In post 242, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: katherine

Ausuka is my 2nd biggest SR. Gamma is a scum lean.

Maria, KTS and Cedrick town. Luca is a town lean.

Rest is null.


In post 321, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: katherine


In post 393, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: implosion


Your other votes on Creature and Mumble also had little reasoning.

The question is, why are you suddenly objecting to this happening to Havo?

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Post Post #648  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:30 pm

In post 639, Tchill13 wrote:ok so we can agree a wagon is not really a threat until about vote 4 on a 7 to lynch right?

so arguably the most important votes on a wagon are the one's that get the wagon to "real possibility" territory.

Votes 2, 3 and 4 imo. The 1st vote carries very little weight alone.

I'm gonna need a reason for those votes. They look like "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" votes. As in you just want someone lynched.

KTS has voted about half the player list at this point When he had Scum!Tchill nailed from the get go, called him town then nailed him again later.

This is one of many oppurtunistic Cedrick moves i've seen and of the players that contributed im closest to voting him

1. why would you ever excuse vote number 1? everyone on a wagon should be scrutinized equally or nobody at all
2. havo didn't have 4 votes on him so I am not even sure why you are rambling on in the first place
3. not a fan of you discrediting everyone voting him like that, you should try to find out the reasons first instead of just blanket shading everyone
4. what is stopping you from voting me? Better yet what do I need to do to push you off that fence you are sitting on?
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Post Post #649  (ISO)  » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:31 pm

In post 645, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 642, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 638, Gamma Emerald wrote:TChill please look past the activity and look at Katehrine's content please, thoughts will be required


Activity isn't AI. It is required to show the rest of the game that you're town though. I'm talking Strong TR. So while the "content" hasn't been scummy I'd like to continue with a group ik is going to play the game. That can be transparently town when i need them to be. I can't trust Katherine or Mumble atm but would love to play with them if they actually decide to participate. (Tone reads only seem to be made when it comes to players with low content. If you can read someone on tone that's great. I can't.)

When Katherine has participated she's been pretty towny imo, that's why I wanted you to read her posts, so that I could try to get you to see that, but you seem to be having more fun discrediting her so u-do-u
VOTE: TChill13


discredit? i've done no such thing. I simply disagreed that i'm ok with calling him town based off his content. I read it. It's not good enough for me. Not once did i talk about his actually play in a negative manner. I think it's great you can declare a strong TR on such low content. I can't. Have i definitively called katherine scum? I haven't.

If you want to vote me that's fine. Explain correctly why you're voting me though. I mean if you want to of course. I'm not having any of that BS though.

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