gamma and havo pushed the implosion lynch to a legitamite threat. If scum bussed i'd say it was creature. That 2nd vote is pretty early.
Katherine seems to think 355, one posts, was good enough to be transparently town because ppl let him. I'll be expecting more of the low activity due to the fact the majority is ok with it as long as he makes a long post.In post 964, katherine wrote:have read the thread, these are just what sticks out from memory
Town of center: gamma (more of the same, +the way he engaged with tchill about me just felt super good), KTS (not much changed since way back when, I mean he is now generally posting pretty differently but nothing stuck out as defying expectation, he did what he said he was gonna do and his journey to not giving a shit made sense to me), creature (I am familiar with creature), maria (concise in a way that is helpful to me and also doesn't lend itself to being townread; she mentioned something about the way she played scum that made me think she would be more effortful in that way), hopkirk/herald (replace out seemed genuine lol)
center: Implo (he has a good bit of towny level 2-type reasoning but also some conclusions I disliked. KTS has been dead set on him more than I think anyone has been dead set on anyone), Ausuka (I saw the common readlist thing so forget that I guess. Hasn't done much that sticks out in memory, townread me based on himself being town which is a bit of a towny thought), Mumble (early dump of vote on me and like refusing to do stuff was kinda garbage at face value but I liked what Maria said, that there's stuff he probably wouldn't let hit the thread if scum), Cedrick (also don't remember much from him? He seemed engaged emotionally from something and a bunch of people were confident town on him but also I remember thinking some of his stuff was unproductive), Havo (He has been a bit pushy but hasn't given any especially compelling reasoning stuff that I remember. He said he doesn't like D1s so that's whatever)
scum of center: Tchill (Seems more intent on making stances than sorting. With me he went from strongly scumreading to not scumreading but wanting to lynch anyway, while also arguing I hadn't given any way to read me (355 seemed to be enough for a lot of people), and talks a lot of talk about needing to sort me and but doesn't take any initiative with that that I can remember. Don't get the Creature vote either), Luca (a few things have rubbed me the wrong way - 589 he says the case he opened with on Tchill wasn't very hard but it was like very strongly worded and it just doesn't seem to me like he would see me point it out and think "nah it wasn't a hard case"; also a bunch of his stuff seems functional and not difficult to come up with, e.g. in 896, 2 just reads to me as "I should say something to that")
VOTE: Luca
In post 1304, MariaR wrote:I don't think Luca should take his claim back
I also don't think we should lynch him for now even if I think he could be scum.
So heres two people majorly opposed to the luca lynch today.In post 1354, Cedrick wrote:you know luca isn't going to really get lynched today though. So you as scum could push luca and be written off as a dumb townie.In post 1351, Tchill13 wrote:Let's say I'm scum. I lynch Luca. He flips town so I'm gonna push Katherine. Katherine flips town. Guess who's lynched next? Me. It's a stupid road to go down if I'm scum. One with limited possibilities. If you're scum you want as many possibilities as possible at all times.
Maria and Ausuka both think Luca's role is more likely to be had by scum. They don't seem to push for this lynch today though unless i missed something.In post 1333, Ausuka wrote:I agree with this actually.In post 1327, Luca Blight wrote:In post 1319, MariaR wrote:Well someone who can't be nightkilled is basically someone who cannot be targeted by anything and if they so choose make it so they stay alive for good that seems really unfair for scum to not be able to deal with a player not all in anyway unless said player lets them do itIn post 1309, Luca Blight wrote:Tell me what you're basing this on.In post 1303, MariaR wrote:unlimited? YesIn post 1297, Luca Blight wrote:Let me get this straight - are you saying commuter is more likely to be a scum role than a town one?In post 1294, MariaR wrote:In post 1287, Luca Blight wrote:I agree scum are less likely to have bussed here, purely because of how tight the lynch was, and also because I claimed an unkillable pr - I'm sure scum would have loved to have offed me D1. implosion was also a pr we must remember.
If scum were on implosion it will have been one of the first on it imo.Ironically your pr is more likely in the hands of scum then it is town
but I can just assume you're fake claiming and you're this super strong town pr for now *shrug*
Where as if it was scum they can use that without complaint until they're the last scum and then that power is gone feels fairer
This post feels like scum complaining to me -"it isn't fair"lol.
Surely whether or not it's 'fair' depends on what other roles are in the game - we already know Mafia had a strongman which is a decent role.
Here's ausuka taking a neutral stance on implosion.In post 491, Ausuka wrote:Sure.In post 484, Gamma Emerald wrote:What about the bolded names?In post 446, Ausuka wrote:Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends
Ausuka, Creature, Tchill13
Candidates For Promotion
Cedrick,Katherine, killthestory, MariaR
Watchlist For Meaniness
implosion, Havo, brassherald, Gamma Emerald
Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes
Luca Blight, Mumble
(If I tried to explain all these at once it would be a really long post and it'd also take a really long time to make, but I'll try and explain any read if someone wants me to.)
For katherine, I gave my reasoning in 366 but it wasn't clear I was talking about Katherine I guess. "I don't think scum would vote me in the current climate, plenty of players have come out townreading me and I feel like the general consesus here is that I'm town. I don't think scum would vote me, at least not with weak reasoning like in 355."
Implo could go either way. His reads make sense but like they're not something a scum couldn't fake at this point.
Luca was in 366 too- "Luca's 331 is bad in particular- the momentum on Tchill dies down and now he's jumping on Katherine, who he hasn't scumread before that post, because the wagon "seems like a decent bet.""
Katherine and ausuka BOTH took neutral stances on Implosion day 1 and BOTH were on the Luca wagon.
I do suggest someone that knows what they are doing try it. I don't.In post 1444, MariaR wrote:NKA is shitIn post 1441, Tchill13 wrote:so basically we shouldn't speculate on pretty much anything at all? We know KTS was killed. Where's the speculation there?In post 1399, MariaR wrote:These are all factors that matter on who the scum team is
what role the scum team have
and how they think the gamestate is going
All stuff we don't have and I think is dumb to think on tbh
No question, now, what had happened to the face of Ausuka. The creatures outside looked from Ausuka to osuka, and from osuka to Ausuka, and from Ausaka to osuka again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.In post 1403, Cedrick wrote:Osuka
Wait why do you scumread Tchill again? I can't find anything recent in your iso and this post looks like you're saying that because he's got scum motivation to push me, that makes him scum, which isIn post 1383, Gamma Emerald wrote:TChill I think, I was having doubts when he said he was scumreading Ausuka but thinking about his possible scum motives for that I realized it would benefit him rather than hurt him bsed on the logic that was making that a concern for me, which was TChill seeming to want to get cleared off an Ausuka townflip.
VOTE: TChill
I still never found the post where you explain your katherine read.In post 1433, MariaR wrote:now who needs to read the gameIn post 1431, Mumble wrote:Possible, but unlikely.In post 1429, Gamma Emerald wrote:No? couldn't town have had the same wavelength of thought?
Why minus gamma?In post 1430, MariaR wrote:I sr that whole wagon minus gamma so take your pick
In post 1292, MariaR wrote:Explained KathIn post 1286, Ausuka wrote:Maria why have you locktowned gamma and katherine?
Gamma is meta haven't read him wrong once plus a few posts in this game just don't feel like something scum gamma would make he's prob my top tr now that kts died
Wasn’t he scum reading you?In post 1462, Tchill13 wrote:there's DEFINITELY a reason KTS died.
This is where I’m leaning.In post 1465, Ausuka wrote:If scum bussed implo I think the team is {Havo, Gamma}
If they didn't I think it's {Maria, katherine}
What was this in reference too?In post 1390, Creature wrote:Also, you're welcome.
I already did.In post 1468, Havo wrote:@Cedrick,
Can you go ahead and explain why the KTS death basically clears you in your opinion?
I know you said it was kinda goofy but I’d still like to hear it.
I think there’s something wonky going on anyway in this game and I can’t put my finger on it.
Then you aren’t trying to find scum. If you look for scum on the Luca wagon those are the 2 that stand out the most to me and apparently others.In post 1469, Havo wrote:Most of the people I’m town reading or town leaning are FOSing Ausuka and Tchill but I’m not really seeing it.