Mini Normal 2033: Dolphins (Game Over)

[Saudade]

I simply reread like the first 20 pages and something in between and this is what I got

[Saudade]

I mean he did panic vote me yesterday only to take it back after I went all in on him

[Saudade]

Is it just me or are there too many inactives coming in hopping a wagon then heading out.

Saudade just so you know, you 100% deserve to be at L-1. But UNVOTE: cuz that was outta left field and it's early

and he isnt

oh yeah he unvoted me when I was at L-1

[Saudade]

Dva the scum was on my wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah GW’s play doesn’t seem to match the scum agenda
VOTE: Toranaga
I think I’m comfortable enough in how the town is performing that I don’t mind ending the day

[GuerillaWoo]

I don't see why we have to end so early. Why is it Toranga over Creature?

Actually I'd like to go back and re-read LTVNGambit and Ezekel on both wilky and Dva. Then those two.

So far:

Saudade - brought the wilky wagon to life
Gamma - conf!towned a player we'd all have been willing to lynch today. It'd be a dumb gambit to do just for a little good will from town. Apprehensive town lean.
Tommy - yeah. Even if you assume Gamma is lying about his role, Tommy's still town here.
Alchemist - had tried to get Dva lynched for a good while.

Sus pool:
Creature and Toranga. Mostly PoE but I think my early reads could've been right. I really really don't wanna do two more weeks of this lol, so I'd like to to figure out which.

[Tommy]

I think we've had the hammer.

[Toranaga]

town

sucks to suck

gl fellas

[Saudade]

Dying thoughts Toranaga?

[Toranaga]

kill creature next maybe

[Ausuka]

Votecount 3.1

Toranga (4) - Alchemist21, Tommy, Saudade, Gamma Emerald
Creature (1) - Toranaga

Not Voting (2) - Creature, GuerillaWoo

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-10-27 15:36:44).

[Ausuka]

Toranaga was lynched on Day 3. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Night 3 begins now and ends in (expired on 2018-10-17 12:28:21), please submit your actions before then.

[Ausuka]

Gamma Emerald was killed on Night 3. He was a Town Tracker.

[Ausuka]

Votecount 4.0

Not Voting (5) - Alchemist21, Creature, GuerillaWoo, Saudade, Tommy

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2018-11-01 02:46:07).

[Saudade]

talk b!tches

[GuerillaWoo]

Gonna have to figure out post-game why I read Gamma as so scummy after the claim. A part of me still thought he'd be here regardless of whether he fakeclaimed or not

Tommy now second conf!town after Saudade. Called it.

Real reading of Creature begins when I wake up. I'm going to consider Alchemist too. I shouldn't have dismissed him

[Alchemist21]

Creature is most likely right now imo because his Wilky vote was just put there. Didn’t really seem to have a reason and I’ve seen lazy bus votes before. The catch here is that it was middle of the wagon and I don’t think anyone was pressuring him into doing it at the time so I don’t know why he actually did it as scum.

Guerilla had that thing with the Dva wagon on D1 and for a time I considered Guerilla/Dva the most likely team. Tommy was my second candidate for the partner and as time went on it seemed more likely it was Tommy although it wasn’t until quite some time later that Tommy was scummy in a vacuum. Guerilla’s wilky vote came later when the wagon was more certain, but his tone towards the slot seemed more Town to me and less like scum because he was pushing for someone to hammer instead of trying to stall out. The catch here is that if he knew his partner was going to get lynched then he could have tried to get whatever Towncred he could out of it.

Actually, writing all this out is making me think Guerilla makes more sense. Either way I plan on reading through both their posts later on.

Tommy’s likely going to be killed since he’s Tracker-cleared so Saudade’s the Towniest slot that will go into lylo. I think he needs to figure out who he would rather take to LyLo if we don’t lynch scum today.

[Tommy]

GuerillaWoo, now that I'm confirmed maybe it would be worth me explaining again why I'm sure Creature is town.

Let's say for the sake of argument that EzekelRAGE was scum. When Ausuka saw him and Doughboy were arguing about a previous game, she would have thought to herself, 'EzekelRAGE is playing a good scum game. Doughboy is being suckered.' It wouldn't have occurred to her to warn them off their fight. But because it was town v town, she figured the fight was just hurting the game and she asked Doughboy to stop. Presumably she asked EzekelRAGE to stop too.

So EzekelRAGE must have been town. And Creature replaced EzekelRAGE, so he must be town too.

I'm certain you're town from your play. If we can set up a town bloc of Tommy, GuerillaWoo and Creature, this is in the bag.

Saudade pushed a weak wagon on an empty slot and it turned out to be scum, so that leaves Alchemist21.

VOTE: Alchemist21

[GuerillaWoo]

Again I strongly disagree that the mod's intervention into that argument was a town tell. They were fighting about an ongoing game, I don't think the mod intervened just cuz it was heated. I had some heated, several page, ultimately TvT bullshit insult wars here that led nowhere, and the mod never intervened.

It seems, honestly, a little risky to lynch Alchie today. I'm not a fan of his later play, seems like he's only been hammering wagons, but his earlier play was more townie. I'm not saying it's impossible he's scum, just less likely than Creature. Perfectly possible he's been busy.

Also, it kinda makes sense that Ezekel would flake on the game? He seemed like an irritable guy who didn't know what he was saying half the time, and he had three scum partners just leave and not resurface. On an emotional level I'd understand why you'd just nope out of the game when he seemingly had more posts than both of his active partners. Seems like the kinda dude who'd blame his team, take his toys, then leave.

[Tommy]

UNVOTE:

It was an ongoing game? I'm going to check that when I get a chance

[Tommy]

It wasn't an ongoing game. It ended the day before this one started. Here's Doughboy's version of Ausuka's intervention:

I’ve been instructed by the mod not the bring up anything from other games as it relates to rage.

VOTE: Alchemist21

[GuerillaWoo]

Then why'd they keep yelling at each other about who brought up an ongoing game lmao dummies

Sorry bud, still don't buy it though. I don't think the mod would actively avoid interfering in a fight like that just cuz one of em's scum. Even if they'd like to excuse it as "part of the play", their argument just got personal and petty and had pretty much nothing to do with mafiascum and everything to do their dislike of one another.

[Tommy]

Okay, well I won't help you lynch Creature. The other two might.

[Saudade]

Tommy are you traitor

[Saudade]

What the fuck lol