Mini Normal 2073: ~ramblings~ (game over)

[HitAlt]

VOTE: Succinct - rather this than Skellen still, I think. (although their points have gone down as well)

[Skellen]

I a pretty much with S_S in this whole matter. FL/Zulfy will get resolved together with Titus tomorrow, I see no reason to lynch there today.

Vork's claim looks believable imo considering he crumbed it pretty early on D1 and Fruit Vendor seems to me to be a rather unlikely role to fakecrumb. Also I don't really want to lynch through a claimed inno.

The only things that make me wary about the claims is that both seem pretty similar. FL claims to have a disloyal modifier while Vork apparently has something that makes him confident enough to claim an inno on someone else.

[Skellen]

Considering what I and others said about the claims situation I dislike DEB's approach with keeping the focus of the lynch exactly on these players with trying to get a lynch there through before we can verify anything.

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Succinct

There’s a world where SS is scum and Vork is town, though, too.

My fruit just would have went through, and Vork’s didnt.

[Skellen]

Another thing, also in regards to DEB, that makes me wonder is the situation between the Baezu and LUV/Sky wagons yesterday at the end of the day. Sky pretty much softed in #1746 (in response to FL's soft) yet the Baezu wagon went pretty much quickly through after that. The first vote after Sky's softening came from DEB (#1751), who voted for Sky (5 votes Sky vs 4 votes Baezu). After that Ausuka changed her vote from Sky to Baezu and then James/Succinct voted Baezu up to 6 votes.

My initial thought was that scum would try to force the claim out of Sky with voting her, which would support scum!DEB imo. Otherwise the LUV/Sky wagon was pretty town driven if we assume the claims are both correct/town, because the first three votes on that wagon would have been FL, Ausuka and Vork. The lack of pressure after the soft could imply scum!Sky (then together with Succinct), but I am not that sure tbh considering how fast everything went down at the end of the day. If Sky is town it is imo pretty much likely that one of Hit or DEB is scum, however I suspect Hit the least there.

[Skellen]

Can someone explain the Succinct scumreads?

[Skellen]

@FL:
Are you scumreading me?

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think so, no.

I think Skygazer/Succinct come up before you.

Something is probably above you right now.

You seem like the person who’s likely to be targeted for the mislynch.

[Titus]

VOTE: Succinct

I still think SS is the smarter lynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Succinct

I still think SS is the smarter lynch.

Same, but I don’t think his scum partners let the lynch go through today.

[Succinct]

Much as not mislynching me's good, your justification's wrong.

I'm reading this as "my role is not what you think it is."
Is this the correct interpretation, and if so, can I say what I thought it was?

Former implies latter's yes, yes.

I didn't get roleblocked. I would know if I got roleblocked.

Mind clarifying what your exact result was here, then?

Targeted James now Succinct. Nothing.

It

does

make a difference.

Let's scumhunt away from the claimed PRs for a bit.

You say this, but leave your vote on the claimed innocent of two PRs. (Something_Smart's virtually double-cleared.)

VOTE: SS
If SS flips town then scum is 100% FL/Zulfy

If you needed more proof scum're voting on Something_Smart, look no further.

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake
Would also vote Titus.
Skellen's also scum.

[Something_Smart]

I thought you were Informed and your information had something to do with fruit vendors.

[Succinct]

My only information's experience of past games; setup spec's not difficult once informed of roleclaims. I started with none, but with three, I've a much clearer picture.

[Something_Smart]

Well, I'm not sure how I feel about you, primarily your predecessor (sorry, I know it sucks to hear that), but you're being reasonable. So at the very least, I can leave you for now and take care of the people who aren't being reasonable.

[Zulfy]

Succinct my result was that no one targeted you.

[Zulfy]

Site's not working.

We can 100 % get an S_S lynch wtf are Titus and FL talking about

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Something

I do think Succinct is also scum, though.

Who are we targeting tonight? Still Titus?

[Zulfy]

Why ask it twice?

[Flavor Leaf]

Why ask it twice?

Because I had no clue if the last time we did it if you were targeting Titus or just said the name. We don't need to really be hidden about it, our roles are already out.

[Zulfy]

Hmm yeah. So yeah it's Flavius I'll be targeting.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hmm yeah. So yeah it's Flavius I'll be targeting.

we have to target the same person or neither of our roles matter.

[Zulfy]

So that's what we do

[Flavor Leaf]

So that's what we do

That doesn't accomplish anything targeting me. I don't even know if I can self target, and even if I could, you wouldn't be able to get any info off of that.

[Flavor Leaf]

That's me assuming Flavius is me, but it could be a weird typo off of Titus.

[Zulfy]

Oh haha it's just me messing. Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus etc.