Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [day three]

[northsidegal]

well excuse me for carying about dental hygeine

[Datisi]

Vote count 2.final
with 10 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

execution

Hayker [6]: Gamma Emerald, unwnd, Lunar Martian, Elements, Kazyan, Hayker [HAMMER]

Not voting [4]: northsidegal, Papa Zito, 2ndchosen1, Dannflor

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~ yeet

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[Datisi]

day two ends

Hayker has been executed Day 2. They were a Mafia Informed.

The sun sets, it is now Night 2. Sunrise in (expired on 2021-01-14 09:40:00).

[Datisi]

due to me shattering my sleep schedule in the past few days, i might not be awake at deadline, and daystart could be up to 3 hours late. apologies for the inconvenience.

[Datisi]

day three starts

Papa Zito has been killed Night 2. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Gamma Emerald has been killed Night 2. He was a Vanilla Townie.

The sun rises. It is now Day 3.

[Datisi]

Vote count 3.00
with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 3 ends in 5 days, 11 hours, 28 minutes.

execution

Not voting [7]: northsidegal, unwnd, Elements, 2ndchosen1, Dannflor, Lunar Martian, Kazyan

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~ yeet

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[Dannflor]

Oh bad

[Dannflor]

I guess is makes some sense that mafia want to keep their jail keeper with a vig in the game.

Also I need to floss more. I use the long stringy floss but I always feel like I’m wasting it or doing it wrong.

[Dannflor]

I’m assuming Papa Zito was the NK here which is interesting.

[unwnd]

Trying not to think too hard about the night results, but I will say Gamma's death confirms to me a few things (outside of being wrong)

[unwnd]

So

Let's just do some dirty wagonomics first

Vote count 2.final
with 10 votes in play, it took 6 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

execution

Hayker [6]: Gamma Emerald, unwnd, Lunar Martian, Elements, Kazyan, Hayker [HAMMER]

Not voting [4]: northsidegal, Papa Zito, 2ndchosen1, Dannflor

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~ yeet

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Logic persists there is one scum on the wagon. It also tells me that scum were probably fine with Hayker's death and my thoughts on this likely have a semblance of truth. My brain wants to default to Elements but with Gamma being town I want to think a bit harder about things. It doesn't seem right to go 'welp Gamma was town' and then just vote Elements.

[unwnd]

Gonna scan Hayker again even if his content is really bare

[unwnd]

K im back there isn't shit to look at lol

The only thing that seemed of note was what we talked about in regards to Kazyan around EoD. I was feeling pretty good about the people who were there just shooting the shit really, and I still maintain I liked NSG's entrance. The idea of (scum roll over and die) is still plausible in my head, and know that me not entertaining Elements immediately is just a means to be thorough; I kinda don't wanna think about NSG being scum at the moment

[Kazyan]

Are we sure these second night kills come from a vigilante rather than a serial killer?

[unwnd]

2ndchosen, your position on Hayker on re-read overnight is a bit concerning. Your first post indicates extensive experience with him, yet you remained kinda passive towards his claim and everything else going on. Why? Did you hesitate to think he was scum, and is so, why did you let him die anyways? You're not on his wagon but you still scumleaned him for ??? reasons. The only thing I could find is your #911 where you said "I don't care about KH mafia, I feel it's pretty easy to change gameplay even minutely, this game is currently more important." I don't know if this comment is referring to a meta read or something but it's pretty bland lol

[Dannflor]

Serial killer is non-normal IIRC

[unwnd]

I'm pretty certain where the shot came from/who did it but prefer not to reveal it

No this isn't a funny way of saying I did it

[Dannflor]

I have some thoughts to share but unfortunately my WiFi is down so it’ll have to wait until (hopefully) later today.

[unwnd]

I have some thoughts to share but unfortunately my WiFi is down so it’ll have to wait until (hopefully) later today.

Do you think my NSG read is too preemptive?

[Dannflor]

I still like her entrance as well. I wouldn’t necessarily jump to scum reading her just because she had one read wrong and wasn’t NKed, and not just because thinking about her being scum makes my stomach turn.

I do want to look at her *closer* but I’m not paranoiaing yet.

Same rather goes towards you but I think I’m more confident on you.

[Dannflor]

I haven’t had a chance to reread like I want to yet though since I’m limited to my phone. That’s fine though because I want to give Lunar/Kazyan/elements/2ndchosen some space to do work.

[Kazyan]

Since Hayker was informed, I'm thinking that the information had to be the fact that Dannflor was a Jailkeeper Enabler. It's plausible that the Mafia just avoided killing Dannflor on day 1 to back up Hayker's doctor claim and only figured it out on day 2 when Dannflor went public with that fact, but I don't see how any other piece of information would make sense. Unfortunately, I don't think this tells us much.

I'll try to go through ISOs later tonight when I'm not burned out at work and figure out what possible pairings make sense. There are 5 undetermined people left besides me, which is 10 pairings, so it's feasible to take a pass on all 10.

[Kazyan]

Not part of my intended pairing analysis, but:

There was a grand total of 1 interaction between NPOM/unwd and Hayker day 1 and that was NPOM begrudgingly voting near the end of the day.
Scumbuddies!

This random post, given apropos of nothing in the middle of the "Gamma and Elements are scum" discussion, is living rent-free in my head.

[Kazyan]

Okay, wait, one more thought. If the mafia has a regular goon and a jailkeeper left, the goon can play a little aggressively to make moves, but the jailkeeper needs to avoid rocking the boat as much as possible. We should expect unusually safe, non-pushy play from the jailkeeper, right? So who does that?

NPOM/unwnd: Not pushy, but active.
Lunar: Rocking the boat is Lunar's thing.
Elements: Handed out votes on day 1; pushed for the NPOM/unwnd thing.
HWS/northsidegal: northsidegal gets a partial pass for being so fresh, but HWS played extremely safely and accused no one.
2ndchosen1: Has fair analysis, but avoids making any definitive accusations and pushes for nothing.

[Kazyan]

VOTE: 2ndchosen1