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Post Post #2450  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:32 pm

In post 2447, Not_Mafia wrote:
VC 3.07PookyTheMagicalBear (0)-
Amélie (1)- clidd
Flea The Magician (3)- LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus (E-2)
geraintm (0)-
VFP (0)-
RLotus (0)-
clidd (3)- geraintm, Amélie, Flea The Magician (E-2)
LlamaFluff (0)-
Almost50 (0)-

Not Voting (2)- Almost50, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Eliminate.

Deadline is (expired on 2021-04-11 19:00:00) - Apr 11th 19:00 GMT


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Jesus, why is Ame with only one vote?

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Post Post #2451  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:39 pm

VC 3.08PookyTheMagicalBear (0)-
Amélie (1)- clidd
Flea The Magician (3)- LlamaFluff, PookyTheMagicalBear, RLotus (E-2)
geraintm (0)-
VFP (0)-
RLotus (0)-
clidd (3)- geraintm, Amélie, Flea The Magician (E-2)
LlamaFluff (0)-
Almost50 (0)-

Not Voting (2)- Almost50, VFP

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Eliminate.

Deadline is (expired on 2021-04-11 19:00:00) - Apr 11th 19:00 GMT
Not mafia has impressively cheated on his very first clue.
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.

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Post Post #2452  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:41 pm

I want a wagon on her.

@Gera @Flea

Help me buss my partner and vote on Ame.

@Vfp

Join me on Ame first, we can deal with Flea later if fea is scum.

Actually, E-2 should be enough. I want the successor to see that the slot needs to play after entering.

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Post Post #2453  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:42 pm

Titus replaces Amélie.
Not mafia has impressively cheated on his very first clue.
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.

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Post Post #2454  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:44 pm

Well, it won't work anymore.

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Post Post #2455  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:48 pm

Welcome Titus.

Basically, we are in a gamestate in which two players (Pooky/A50) claimed to be PR.

Pooky said that he a VT result on Llama.

A50 said that he had a no-gun result on Rlotus.

Everyone else claimed vanilla irc.

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Post Post #2456  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:49 pm

Correction: Pooky said that he had*

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Post Post #2457  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:51 pm

Some people are suspecting Flea, who pushed a TPR elim on D2 (DGB).

And some are suspecting me.

I'm suspecting your slot.

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Post Post #2458  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:02 pm

Sweet, now we both get schooled on VC stuff :P

and I'm generally deluded, it's part of my conditions ^_^ You copping out is you copping out, doesn't matter why :mrgreen:
fwea is faerse - v strong! - Nora being Adnorable :P
Chaos, is the only true path to happiness. Now, would you like a sandwich?
Meds change? Meds change. Have fun because these are some proper beasties (like DUI level beasties :P)
Do you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!

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Post Post #2459  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:13 pm

@Flea

If you're talking about this definition: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dic ... sh/cop-out

Nop, it is not the message I'm sending.

But, yeah, we haven't finished the VCA issue yet.

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Post Post #2460  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:15 pm

the 3rd one.

You be scared :mrgreen: It's fine, Titus will come in and school us both anyway if she got the spoons to.
fwea is faerse - v strong! - Nora being Adnorable :P
Chaos, is the only true path to happiness. Now, would you like a sandwich?
Meds change? Meds change. Have fun because these are some proper beasties (like DUI level beasties :P)
Do you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!

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Post Post #2461  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:20 pm

But yeah why not, I like this conversation, you're unwilling/scared to put your money where your mouth is so I'll give you a free shot.

You challenged me on not looking at context around each vote. Who's vote in which count I've mentioned previously would you like me to look at and dig a lil harder in to?
fwea is faerse - v strong! - Nora being Adnorable :P
Chaos, is the only true path to happiness. Now, would you like a sandwich?
Meds change? Meds change. Have fun because these are some proper beasties (like DUI level beasties :P)
Do you wanna get to know me? Like are you really sure about that? GTKAS!

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Post Post #2462  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:25 pm

Hum. Take a look at , and .

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Post Post #2463  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:32 pm

Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.
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Post Post #2464  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:37 pm

It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.

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Post Post #2465  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:38 pm

In post 2463, Titus wrote:Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.


Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?

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Post Post #2466  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:38 pm

In post 2464, clidd wrote:It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.


Why do you feel like that?
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Post Post #2467  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:46 pm

In post 2465, clidd wrote:
In post 2463, Titus wrote:Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.


Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?


Nope. I don't read on sub in unless I have a PR. Then I fake it. I'll probably skim the VCs in a bit.
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Post Post #2468  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:50 pm

Mod: What does a psychologist do? I thought they turned SKs into town but SKs are prohibited in normals of this size.
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Post Post #2469  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:50 pm

Titus wrote:
In post 2464, clidd wrote:It feels like Flea is trying to make me vote faer for some reason.


Why do you feel like that?


I'm not exactly townreading faer slot rn, but I'm not scumreading too.

I'm focused on your slot, as I believe Amélie is scum (your predecessor), but Flea's interactions with me seem to imply that fae wants to 1v1 me, even though faer wagon has more friction than mine.

After I mention that the VCA fae did was bad, fae is insisting that I should present a better VCA, but I don't see how it would help Flea to read me in AI terms and I already explained that I have no interest in a VCA, as it is not something that will help me now in the sense of scumhunting. Fae has also clung faerself to the premise that I am running away and is using this as a repetitive primary argument to stay engaging with me in a weird way.

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Post Post #2470  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:51 pm

In post 2467, Titus wrote:
In post 2465, clidd wrote:
In post 2463, Titus wrote:Wow. Apparently based on this page, I am a legend. I'm only playing 1-2 games max to see if that helps with the spoons.

I like the fact we have two counterwagons going. I'm inclined to leave both Pooky and A50 alive for now. Even if one is scum, they should generate mostly clears or guilties, based on what's been stated on this page.


Meh. Do you have other takes on the game?


Nope. I don't read on sub in unless I have a PR. Then I fake it. I'll probably skim the VCs in a bit.


Hum, ok.

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Post Post #2471  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:59 pm

I mean, I would see no problem voting Flea and having reasons to be in faer wagon rn as scum!me vs town!Flea.

But I do think that faer behavior is probably more likely from foolish-town than foolish-scum (if I had to guess), although it's not a strong enough impression for me to consider the slot as townlean or townread.

Much of this was due to the push on Dgb, which so far I have difficulty finding a scum motivation.

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Post Post #2472  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:00 pm

@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?
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Post Post #2473  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:04 pm

In post 2468, Titus wrote:Mod: What does a psychologist do? I thought they turned SKs into town but SKs are prohibited in normals of this size.


A psychologist receives a positive result on a player that has the active ability to kill but hasn't used it, or a negative result on a player that does not have the active ability to kill OR does have the active ability to kill and has already used it. This resolves after night kills.
Not mafia has impressively cheated on his very first clue.
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.

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Post Post #2474  (ISO)  » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:07 pm

In post 2472, Titus wrote:@clidd, Calling something bad without presenting anything of your own is a common, but not universal, scum tactic. VCA is a tool available for everyone but weak this early. How does Faer's vca help you read him but the inverse wouldn't be true?


Actually, Flea's VCA didn't help me much, but fae wanted to do, so it's not like I could forbid it.

Regarding the reverse, I just don't see how delivering a vca would help fae to read me better compared to asking me to describe my read in a specific slot.

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