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Post Post #2575  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:23 am

In post 2573, geraintm wrote:@ Norway.

Like, i know Scum have not played well this game - they've lost 2 players in 2 days - but you think my plan was to out myself day 1 with a role that exactly correctly my partner, hammer partner day 1, then go out of my way to make myself so obviously linked to the other scum day 2.
i've got that right?

that is more believable to you than me just blurting out my town role?

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?


You just said that there is a strongman. What is your role exactly?

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Post Post #2576  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:43 am

my role card was Informed Townie, and i was todl the followign information about the game's setup by the mod, that scum had a 1 shot strongman.

i blurted it out at the start because i was assuming town had some protective role, and i did not want town to get into the posistion where someone claimed doc and that they had used a protection but someone has still died, because that would just get too many people killed.

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Post Post #2577  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:47 am

Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya

anything else i've missed?

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Post Post #2578  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:47 am

Alice - have you only had 1 investigation all game??

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Post Post #2579  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:50 am

In post 2577, geraintm wrote:Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya

anything else i've missed?


N_M - Vigilante

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Post Post #2580  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:50 am

Known roles (not seen this summary anywhere)

George Bailey - mafia goon
Datisi - town doctor
whooper - town roleblocker
iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker
innocent villager - vanilla townie
geraintm - informed townie

claims

AliceK - Cop with clear on Anya
Not mafia - vigilante [forgot this]

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Post Post #2581  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:51 am

Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Iconeum
innocentvillager
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

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Post Post #2582  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:52 am

i am 100% beleiving Anya is town now by the way, i cannot see a situation where they are scum

Players left

Not_Mafia - claimed Vigilante
Gypyx
geraintm - informed townie
NorwegianboyEE
Anya - Green from a clear by ALice K
Luca Blight
AliceK - claimed cop
VP Baltar

[sorry, took that list from the front page and it wasn't updated]

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Post Post #2583  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 3:54 am

For me, the pool that scum could possibly be is

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Post Post #2584  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:21 am

In post 2573, geraintm wrote:Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?

And the simpler explanation is?
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Post Post #2585  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 am

You were also really opposed to the George elimination before *begrudgingly* hammering him. And you also opposed Ico elimination yesterday.
I think it’s a lot more likely than you’re making it seem that you’re scum here.
This is literally going against my previous read on you, because it just feels like you’ve defended scum all this time.
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Post Post #2586  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:35 am

And you killed IV because you felt Ico’s death spewed him town.
Boom, game solved.
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Post Post #2587  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 am

i'll need to take another look at gera's early game
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Post Post #2588  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:40 am

Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to now get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.
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Post Post #2589  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 4:40 am

In post 2588, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Geraint prob felt intimidated by the playerlist and came up with a informed stunt using his teammates role to not get immediately PoE’d or eliminated early. As he voiced as his direct reason for claiming what he did on his first post.

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Post Post #2590  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:03 am

In post 2577, geraintm wrote:iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker


Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here

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Post Post #2591  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:08 am

VOTE: geraitm

there's this also

In post 2280, Gypyx wrote:
In post 2276, Iconeum wrote:
In post 71, Gypyx wrote:
In post 66, Iconeum wrote:
In post 62, Gypyx wrote:actually hmmmm

given the claim, there's a possibility for it being ico + gera

not really stuff i'd bank on, just higher odds


please

tell me more


ongoing game kinda

will explain when time comes


why does scum!gyp refer to an ongoing game to explain something? with the game over, i know he was watching my scum play in action so maybe he saw something

why does scum!gyp set up a scumread on me to later backpedal when heat turns up and i'm actually a viable misflip? he literally has every opportunity to get me here and have a justified vote on me

but instead he doubles down on defending me?


oh yeah i can explain that also !

basically, in a normal game (forgot the number) ico was planning to claim town informed who knows there's an encryptor, and this is pretty damn similar to gera's claim

considered it ongoing ongoing because i got aware of this game via datisi's notes PT in 2201
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Post Post #2592  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:09 am

In post 2573, geraintm wrote:@ Norway.

Like, i know Scum have not played well this game - they've lost 2 players in 2 days - but you think my plan was to out myself day 1 with a role that exactly correctly my partner, hammer partner day 1, then go out of my way to make myself so obviously linked to the other scum day 2.
i've got that right?

that is more believable to you than me just blurting out my town role?

Why do people playing MAfia need to go looking for something 27 times more unlikely than the simpler explanation?


Your hammer was irrelevant as George was a gonner anyway, and it seems suspect in that you had earlier said you'd never vote him

I don't see how you made yourself linked to Icon particularly other than by not bussing him. Not wanting to bus your only other partner D2 is pretty natural.

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Post Post #2593  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:11 am

Both Icon and geraint have white-knighted gypyx this game as well, so maybe that was part of some gameplan

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Post Post #2594  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:13 am

In post 2590, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 2577, geraintm wrote:iconeum - mafia 1 shot roleblocker


Erm, he was a strongman, not a roleblocker

I'm wondering if this is a slip of what the other scum PR is, as a scum RB would make sense here

a slip. the slot above was roleblocker. i clearly knew they were strongman as it was in my claim

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Post Post #2595  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:15 am

I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen

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Post Post #2596  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:17 am

Icon was the only one to sus geraint's opening claim, which is perhaps TMI? It didn't really make sense for scum to fake such a stance on a townie in that situation especially when everyone else was townreading geraint for it. It seemed to be for the purposes of scum theatre, which Icon/geraint engaged in a lot

Icon then allowed himself to be talked around to geraint being town after all

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Post Post #2597  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:18 am

there is literally no effort being made by people today so far to look beyond me. i am not surprised to be honest.

i will come up green, it is no great loss as town has a bunch of days left to work this out and i have literally nothing else to add to this game besides my initial claim.

oh, im not intimidated by the player list. i recognise i think..2 people? rest of you are utter blanks to me.

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Post Post #2598  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:19 am

In post 2595, Luca Blight wrote:I know you know, but in the moment such mistakes can happen

i love how the working theory is that i am some sort of scum mastermind who faked a claim day 1, then managed to get both my partners eliminated in the first 2 days and yet slip on this :)

still waiting to know if our cop has cleared anyone else besides ANya.

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Post Post #2599  (ISO)  » Tue May 04, 2021 5:20 am

Yeah a lot of things are coming together. It doesn't look too good for you geraintm. I will probably vote you, but I will wait for everyone to post.

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