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[Bambi Jay]

Ohh. E-1. The urge to quick hammer is rising. Only tempered by not wanting to have another short day phase.

If the day phase is short again tho I want us to do a quick night instead if possible. Like only one day instead of two.

[MaxTheFox]

So your main scumreads are the claimed PRs who have no counterclaims?

If A50 retracts their claim then I am locktown until a counterclaim happens, there's no way there's two bodyguards with nobody to guard

The fact that you only say it makes me "townish" looks like scum trying to avoid townreading a slot.

My pick3 list is now, in order or preference

Max
Bambi
Maybe A50

Claimed PRs who were acting like total scum. Also I did ntoe that if one is fake then the other is likely real. The case against me is invalid in that case I feel.

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

Not ready to end the day.

[MaxTheFox]

What I'm saying is it's {boxxy/Almost50, Bambi Jay, MaxTheFox}. If Almost50 can just straighten out his claim, I can narrow down my PoE and case these players.

I am a bloody VT. Bambi is the ONLY player here who knows how to read my posts. OK? And because she does, she cannot be Scum, because she knew all along that boxxy was the one and only Investigative we have.

This is so scum. If I get QHed hang this the next day.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hello Max, will you have time to talk to me today?

[T3]

Oops I thought that was hammerlol

[MaxTheFox]

What kind of townie changes his claim TWICE?! A50 is scum trying to get away with blatantly changing claims to fit the situation. Trust me, vote A50.

Hello Max, will you have time to talk to me today?

Yeah.

[MaxTheFox]

I am willing to get hanged the next day if A50 turns out to be town. But I doubt. I don't see a townie being so jumpy.

[MaxTheFox]

Max, I really want the solve to be Almost50 and Bambi Jay. But your posts are screaming scum to me. I feel like you're sweating for no reason. Tell me why you're feeling nervous.

I was feeling nervous because pressure was building on me. And my fears were true, I got run up to E-1.

[MaxTheFox]

Look at my scum game for how I played then. How is that really similar to how I look at the game now? Yes I was a bit lurky D1-D2 but that is because of a slight interest dip and being IRL busy. But compare my overall play to that game.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Your game here was as scum in a normal. It was impressive, you survived until the end of the day. You were also methodical and you were very confident in sharing your reads + questioning people. What's the difference between this game and that game for you?

[humaneatingmonkey]

*Your first game here

[Dwlee99]

Max's tone feels genuine, I'd much rather throw the short monkey off the train

[humaneatingmonkey]

The explanation for my read on Bambi is that Bambi just seems helpful. Providing reads. Helping solve the game. And most importantly it doesn't seem forced.

What posts from Bambi does it give you the impression that they're helpful, providing reads, helping solve the game, etc.? And why is Bambi Jay more distinctly town vs Almost50 or anyone else in the playerlist?

[MaxTheFox]

I am cemented that A50 is scum. Boxxy... actually Boxxy is town at this point. I rethought it and unless A50 is a TPR after all who is trying a googolplex IQ gambit, he is our sole invest claim.

Your game here was as scum in a normal. It was impressive, you survived until the end of the day. You were also methodical and you were very confident in sharing your reads + questioning people. What's the difference between this game and that game for you?

Here I am more restrained with town reads I suppose. As town (I played chat mafia before) I am kind of scared of making many concrete townreads because if I'm wrong about my townies I have a target on my back. In that game, IIRC, I threw TRs left and right.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Can you also give me a readslist? It would really help us.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Here I am more restrained with town reads I suppose.

Is it hard for you to spot town?

[humaneatingmonkey]

A50 is scum trying to get away with blatantly changing claims to fit the situation.

Can you expound on this? How did scum!A50 use his claims and fake guilties/clears to fit his situation? I'm trying to get a read on this slot so you can help me with this one.

[Almost50]

But it's just a little bit because?

Because I am never 100% sure when it comes to Jay (as either characters). I mean, I modded a game where I gave Elsa a 1-shot BP Hider Survivor and they still felt like claiming Town Doctor for no apparent reason. I can't claim to

fully

understand everything they do, but I get the feeling I

can

this game, and thus I still feel strange that I do, if that makes any sense.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Thanks A50

[Bambi Jay]

But it's just a little bit because?

Because I am never 100% sure when it comes to Jay (as either characters). I mean, I modded a game where I gave Elsa a 1-shot BP Hider Survivor and they still felt like claiming Town Doctor for no apparent reason. I can't claim to

fully

understand everything they do, but I get the feeling I

can

this game, and thus I still feel strange that I do, if that makes any sense.

I thought she claimed neutral doctor that game? Then changed it to town doctor then admitted to being hider, then finally neutral again. I remember like 5 claims but not the order.

[MaxTheFox]

The explanation for my read on Bambi is that Bambi just seems helpful. Providing reads. Helping solve the game. And most importantly it doesn't seem forced.

What posts from Bambi does it give you the impression that they're helpful, providing reads, helping solve the game, etc.? And why is Bambi Jay more distinctly town vs Almost50 or anyone else in the playerlist?

It's just the feeling I get from her ISO? This... I don't feel scum would make this post. Call it my intuition.

What part? Not shooting me?

I would've shot my slot personally as scum. Killing a lurker slot gives nothin away. But I know for sure if Almost is scum he wouldn't kill me cuz it's more with me alive and vice versa. Use that info how you will.

So Kyouko's death wasn't to hide themselves very well. It had a purpose.

This is however immediately soiled with

Yeah a mass claim now kinda helps. First off though I guess I got an idea. If we all say the 3 people we want the most gone out of us 9, we can narrow down our pool significantly. Tally the votes and shit.

Like for me it would be
HEM
Salsa
Dwlee

The bottom two just feel fillersy. Probs could say the same about Max but of everyone she seems the most screwed from the short first days. Let's not go wild I guess this time and think things through.

Bruh why would you put HEM as your top scumread?

And I'm transparent that I meme around even claiming a shitty role when y'all know I'm a VT since I already admitted to wanting to bite the bullet earlier. I would've shot you anyway if I was a vig. I'm trigger happy.

Anyway I'm off to bed.

Now unlike with invest claims I can't really see scum back out of a vig claim. Too much risk.

However.

I am re-reading Bambi's ISO and my TR on her is just... eroding. I don't know why I originally TRed her. Many of her other posts are either filler or scum.
I really hate the tone of this in particular.

Why do you all keep going for me or my townreads? This is saddening.

Box doesn't trust me. Monkey sure as heck doesn't trust me. Salsa doesn't. Dwlee and Max are wall decorations.

T3 and Almost seem to be the guys who I can trust here. And unless I'm double pocketed by the scum team I'm sure I'm right here.

Consider Bambi another scumlean from me now.

Can you also give me a readslist? It would really help us.

Yeah soon after I re-read D3.

Here I am more restrained with town reads I suppose.

Is it hard for you to spot town?

Yes. In that game it was easy for me to make a readslist because I knew who was town and could just pull it out of my ass.

A50 is scum trying to get away with blatantly changing claims to fit the situation.

Can you expound on this? How did scum!A50 use his claims and fake guilties/clears to fit his situation? I'm trying to get a read on this slot so you can help me with this one.

He didn't, he just jumped between several claims over the course of 3 days. I just don't see why town would make themself hard to read like that.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I am re-reading Bambi's ISO and my TR on her is just... eroding. I don't know why I originally TRed her. Many of her other posts are either filler or scum.

So why did you say otherwise earlier?

A50 is scum trying to get away with blatantly changing claims to fit the situation.

Can you expound on this? How did scum!A50 use his claims and fake guilties/clears to fit his situation? I'm trying to get a read on this slot so you can help me with this one.

He didn't, he just jumped between several claims over the course of 3 days. I just don't see why town would make themself hard to read like that.

So why did you say otherwise earlier?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I have some additional questions MaxTheFox

Max do you have more thoughtsTM? Have you caught up?

I was AFK for a while. But basically I skimmed the thread. Early Cyrus vs nomnomnom is TvT I think.

Maybe because I wasn't interacting with the thread early it's hard for me to form opinions.

Do you remember this post? Can you tell me what was in your head when you said it was TvT?

Well shit guess I was wrong about TR.

I think we should look for anyone bussing on the wagon on Cyrus before he died.

Do you also remember this post? Why did you think that scum bussed Cyrus, and why haven't you looked into the wagon yourself?

You are town because I don't really see scum with that playstyle. Maybe because I am new.

What about my playstyle makes you confident that I'm town?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also: I hope you're working on your readslist. I'll give you space now. I hope you can take the time to clear your name today.