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[humaneatingmonkey]

Bruh why would you put HEM as your top scumread?

Max, did you scumread Bambi because she had me as her top scumread?

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm one shot simple vigilante. Simple indicates if I shoot any pr, they'll not die.... only vt/goon will die.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Thank you Salsabil. MaxTheFox → T3 it is.

VOTE: MaxTheFox

[humaneatingmonkey]

actually UNVOTE:

[humaneatingmonkey]

let's wait for kerset

[MaxTheFox]

Bruh why would you put HEM as your top scumread?

Max, did you scumread Bambi because she had me as her top scumread?

Yeah also I mentioned I didn't like her ISO.

[MaxTheFox]

Just make sure T3 is next if you hang me okay?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Yep yep. What's your read on Kerset?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Sorry if this was a very hard game for you Max.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm on phone rn, reading the posts.... I think I want to add in shot while catching up (details reason I can give when I'll post from pc) why I thought

Almost50

was scum because I found his and

Bambi Jay

's play scummy. I mentioned earlier either these 2 are scums or one of them is 100% scum. When people have similar play style as both alignment, I focus on their day play only. Also I didn’t want to mention

Almost50

's fake-claim

town

behaviour to give the upper hand to the scum!him. He also hard tunneled me on that game but not anyone here which made me think if he is scum here who didn’t want to get caught for this. Especially which post(s) gave me scum vibe, I'll post later.

[Salsabil Faria]

Hey unvote! I don’t finish catch up yet

[humaneatingmonkey]

You're good, Salsabil. I believe you. No need to justify your A50 vote.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Just focus on sorting between MaxTheFox, T3, and Kerset.

[Salsabil Faria]

In the meantime, (except

MaxTheFox

), everyone (if you think she is scum) make a case for me please.

@MaxTheFox

, you make a case about who you think is scum pleasw.

No one freaking vote anyone! We have time.

[Salsabil Faria]

Finished catch-up, now it’s time for some iso diving. Will back later.

[MaxTheFox]

Yep yep. What's your read on Kerset?

Null, very mild scum, same reason as T3 but less so. If T3 is town I'd say kill Kerset. If it's not Kerset I have no idea who is mafia.

[MaxTheFox]

I'll make a case later today I think, will do the same as I did against Bambi, select a few notable posts from ISO.

[humaneatingmonkey]

will do the same as I did against Bambi

lol

[humaneatingmonkey]

Max, I'm building a case on you right now and I just want to sympathize with you if you're scum for a hot minute. I realize you're new, and you're in a very hot seat right now. It's a very hard game, especially when you have a bulldog-type player like me hounding at you. I want you to know that this isn't personal, and I hope I can see you in more games after this.

[humaneatingmonkey]

And if you're town. Don't worry. We're gonna win this game and you can now cite this game as reference for your town game

[Salsabil Faria]

Spoiler: Not Game Related (2)

Another thing I want to let you know guys, Friday is a week holiday in my country (like yours is Sunday), so I'm planning to visit my cousin's place later. If I do, then most probably I can't post furthermore today (or will be late).

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm having this crazy idea.... what if

humaneatingmonkey

is the deep wolf here???

[humaneatingmonkey]

MaxTheFox

Motivation + Progression

TL;DR MaxTheFox lacks the vibe that she's solving the game, and not just appearing to solve the game. All the reads MaxTheFox are based on gut and it's impossible to differentiate that with bullshitting. Gut-based players exist, and they can be town. But what's special about MaxTheFox is: She can't explain how she got her gut reads. And when she quotes posts and cites examples, she does not make sense at all.

• Not interacting with the posts of players and including them in her considerations.
• When she gives reads of people, it's really selective and there's a lack of effort in sorting every slot — as town would.

• She suggested looking in Cyrus' wagon for bussers, but didn't actually try herself. She said it's because she was discouraged when she was wrong about cyrus being town — I don't think town are easily discouraged by being wrong.

• In #1046, MaxTheFox said boxxy's recent posts reeked of scum but boxxy hasn't really posted since #973... In addition, boxxy's posting since #880 was fine and didn't have anything about them that was scummy.

• In #1472, MaxTheFox said that Bambi is town because she seems helpful, providing reads, helping solve the game, and most importantly it doesn't seem forced. She got this from her ISO and particularly #1351, based on "intuition". Read it. It was not really a post that anyone would townread.
• In #1646, MaxThe Fox actually deepdives Bambi Jay's ISO — proving that she really didn't read the ISO the first time and that she was just bullshitting.
• In #1646, MaxTheFox scumreads Bambi Jay for having me as her top scumread. This is TMI. How is she so sure that I'm town? Her read on me was that she doesn't think town would have this playstyle. That's not a very confident read.
• In #1646, MaxTheFox just quotes random Bambi Jay posts and calls it scum with no explanation and calls it gut. But she only has her on "scumlean".

• Meanwhile, her Almost50 case is on a strong cemented confident scumread for (a) tone, (b) being active, (c) being jumpy as shit.
• In #1472, MaxTheFox said A50 was almost silent Day 1, but suddenly became more active when Cyrus was hanged. She interprets this as a partner picking up the slack after their partner dies. Problem is: It's not actually accurate. A50 was loud in his catch-up on Day 1.
• She answers all my questions except #1642, where I asked "How did scum!A50 use his claims and fake guilties/clears to fit his situation?" Because she can't answer that.

Associative

MaxTheFox has positive partner interactions with both Cyrus and Bambi Jay.

• In 523, MaxTheFox blurts out an unexplained Cyrus townreaad on a gutread.
• In 1362, Bambi Jay puts HEM, Salsa, Dwlee on her elimpool. Mentions that her Salsa and Dwlee scumread also applies to MaxTheFox, but she makes an exception that "she got screwed by the fast day".
• In 1369, Bambi Jay remarks: "That's alot of sudden Max support from me reminding y'all she exists." This reads like a "Hey woah, slow down!"
• In1407, Bambi Jay does a perspective slip when she forgets that MaxTheFox hasn't claimed yet and can still claim detective.
• In 1511, Bambi Jay poorly explains the slip and demonstrates TMI when he explains that he assumes MaxTheFox is VT because "she clearly isn't invested enough" — even though she already mentioned that MaxTheFox could have been just screwed.
• In 1546, Bambi Jay defends against a MaxTheFox lynch by remarking that her mislynch could put us in ELo — like she's appealing that we reconsider.
• Bambi Jay hammers Almost50, but not MaxTheFox.

Emotional

• At #1472, MaxTheFox gets flustered when she said she was VT and said "she's probably gonna die" even though she wasn't in the chopping block and that we were just massclaiming. She said she felt nervous because pressure was building on her. It was, but she reacted in way that's more likely for caught scum to react.

Bonus

• At #1498, MaxTheFox scumslips when she said "My town playstyle didn't form yet, really." She is speaking in past tense, and doesn't have the POV that she's town in the present.

[humaneatingmonkey]

T3... I honestly don't know why I'm townreading this slot. He has never voted for cyrus or Bambi Jay. He was behind both Seanzie (boldly declaring himself to be locktown for getting a 'townslip' but didnt really unvote — reminiscent of Sigmund from Mini 2214) and Almost50 (who he didn't express any scumread before, and gave a weak reason to hammer). I also think he meant to hammer Max in #1624 which would be very sus because he expressed a townread on him in #1510.

Meanwhile, this is my T3 case.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Waiting for Kerset and T3 to acknowledge Salsabil's claim so we're sure we have no counterclaims.

Intent to hammer MaxTheFox if she reaches E-1

Prediction: MaxTheFox won't post again until post-game, and it's okay. Let her rest. It's a hard game.