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[MargotRosa]

Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone else

ah yes. the very deep and elaborate explanation for why i can only be partnered with salsa. i truly have no idea how i could've possibly missed it.

Read in context of all the posts I quoted, which incidentally, I didn't do for fun

[Datisi]

Realistically, I don't see Datisi partnered with anyone else

ah yes. the very deep and elaborate explanation for why i can only be partnered with salsa. i truly have no idea how i could've possibly missed it.

Read in context of all the posts I quoted, which incidentally, I didn't do for fun

in the context of 1793 to 1798? alright, let's see...

- 1793 says that you think chaos is the only person who does not make sense as my partner, as you doubt that i would make it that obvious (by shitfighting with everyone but him) that i'm partnered with him. reasonable, but doesn't say anything about ari/datisi.
- 1795 is talking about salsa's possible partnerships, you think she makes sense as a partner to either me or chaos, and to nobody else. nothing about ari/datisi.
- 1796 is a repeat of me and chaos not being partnered. nothing about ari/datisi.
- 1797 is the post in question, which now asserts that i cannot be partnered with anyone else [but salsa]. hmm... why is ari out of the picture again?
- 1798 is again talking about associates with salsa and doesn't mention me at all.

what context am i missing here? am i supposed to be psychic and magically know what you meant inbetween 1796 and 1797?

also noted that you have not addressed (1) what gave you a salsa/datisi vibe on d3, (2) the fact that you misrepped me about demanding "evidence", and (3) that you still haven't revisited the kyouko case and explained what you liked about it or what you disliked about my rebuttal.

[MargotRosa]

Look, I'll spell it out for you. I feel that Ari is almost certainly Town, and honestly, I feel like the uncomfortable energy coming off her posts whilst sort of probably scum reading you doesn't come from scum. Salsa makes sense to me as your partner because you two rarely interact, I feel like there has been very little in the way of Salsa appealing to you in the way she has done to other slots, almost as if she doesn't feel the need to convince you to read her in a certain way.

That's the long and short of it

[MargotRosa]

I began wondering whether you two were a team because I thought about your Salsa/Margot read, and felt it was insurance

[MargotRosa]

I'm not misrepping you

[MargotRosa]

And I agree in principle with a chunk of what ssbm said. I think you were very aimless with your votes on D1, and the way in which you meandered back to IV was last minute and potentially a face saving manouvre.

I can see what ssbm is saying about role fishing, though I wasn't sold on it. I did however see a lot of what was said on the ways that you have thrown your vote around since. I have thought often that you seem very adept at sitting on the edge of wagons, often playing into them enough to make other people jump on, but never so much that you can't jump off and cast dispersions on the people you've left there.

[MargotRosa]

As for how you reacted, it wasn't your reactions towards ssbm that have made me suspicious. It's the way in which you reacted to everyone else who felt that ssbm is right. It feels like desperation, trying to land any other playing who a scum read might stick to

[MargotRosa]

Ari, me, though interestingly, way less Salsa, which is odd

[Gypyx]

prodding ChaosOmega

[Salsabil Faria]

Do you find difficulties voting someone? Does this create tension and sleepless night?
DON'T WORRY! I have a solution!!!!

Spoiler:

ALWAYS vote for the inactive ones! If any noisy people ask for the reason, just say:

They are inactive, duh!

UNVOTE: MR

VOTE: CO

[ChaosOmega]

Still still happy with my Salsa vote. Her jump to Margot in 1817 looks super opportunistic and doesn't make sense given her reads in 1782.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Chaos>Salsa/Datisi is still the best path I think, where town!Chaos means Salsa is next, and scum!Chaos means Datisi next. Again, this only loses to Aristea/Datisi as a team. Otherwise we either win or go to final 3 of Salsa/Datisi, Aristea, and MargotRosa (assuming scum kill the conftowns).

Let's say for arguments sake we've reached one of those final 3s.

Scum!Chaos/Town!Datisi: Salsa, Aristea, MargotRosa
Town!Chaos/Scum!Salsa: Datisi, Aristea, MargotRosa

Who is the last scum in both these situations and why? Open question to all.

[Enchant]

Imo i think i am not worthy to being nightkilled, so don't bother mafia.

Alive Enchant increases your chance to win!

[ChaosOmega]

I don't really get why I'm being scumread here. I have no reason to bus iv D1, I jump on early as a compromise and vote park him, I obviously didn't gain towncred from the way I did it. Scumreading T3 and jumping on his wagon would have been my play, I wouldn't have garnered suspicion and I'm not limming my PR teammate in the process.

I know my alignment so I'm biased, but this seems like a waste of a lim. With the way D1 played out, it is extremely likely scum were on the T3 counterwagon. I know it's impossible both scum bussed because the only unaccounted iv votes are me and Margot, but even from the outside it should seem extremely unlikely. We should be limming in the D1 T3 voters until scum is hit and reassess after.

[Datisi]

Salsa makes sense to me as your partner because you two rarely interact,

I feel like there has been very little in the way of Salsa appealing to you in the way she has done to other slots, almost as if she doesn't feel the need to convince you to read her in a certain way.

i can't comment on the latter, since it's salsa's doing and not mine, but the bolded kinda annoys me. like, if i'm scum in this game, i entered the game screaming and bashing at one of my partners... while basically ignoring the other? it's kinda *odd* to hear this from you, considering you were the one who said "scum don't make themselves obviously aligned before lylo". like, i dunno, if you're the one to think of that, you don't strike me as a player to also think that i'm +scum with someone have little associates with, especially considering both scenarios are discussing the same hypothetical scum!datisi.

I began wondering whether you two were a team because I thought about your Salsa/Margot read, and felt it was insurance

cool, would it have killed you to say this back when i first asked?

I'm not misrepping you

lmfao yes you are. your "i'm sick of you asking everyone for evidence! nobody has evidence!" bullshit is a straight up misrep, because i never asked anyone for evidence of anything. i am aware that that's not how the game works. i ask for explanations of the thought process.

As for how you reacted, it wasn't your reactions towards ssbm that have made me suspicious. It's the way in which you reacted to everyone else who felt that ssbm is right. It feels like desperation, trying to land any other playing who a scum read might stick to

Ari, me, though interestingly, way less Salsa, which is odd

yeah, god forbid i have a different opinion on different pushes on my slot, right?

[Datisi]

my issue with scum!salsa is that, like... what the fuck is scum!salsa doing here? scum generally, like, tries to win. i think that everyone here is potentially working towards some sorta wincon for scum!themselves, except for salsa who seems to be all over the place. if whoever has experience with scum!her knows some of her meta and that this fits it, then by all means let me know, but i struggle to see just like, what is she trying to achieve here. and the fact that she was already next in the poe line and we've been mindlessly going down it and it's gotten us nothing but green flips so far is worrying

[Aristeia]

so who is scum then?

[Datisi]

I know my alignment so I'm biased, but this seems like a waste of a lim. With the way D1 played out, it is extremely likely scum were on the T3 counterwagon. I know it's impossible both scum bussed because the only unaccounted iv votes are me and Margot, but even from the outside it should seem extremely unlikely. We should be limming in the D1 T3 voters until scum is hit and reassess after.

there's something that makes me uneasy about the "we should be limming in the t3 voters". the fact is that we've been doing that, we killed three people (if you count the vig shot) who were not on the iv wagon, and they all flipped green. and i'm kinda skeptical of this? like, how many green flips does it take for you to get worried about there being deepwolves?

[Datisi]

so who is scum then?

i was about to ask where you are.

i dunno. i'm voting margot because her actions towards me and salsa feel ill-intended. i think if she were to flip red it would mean salsa is probably green, so her partner would be between you/omega. neither of these make perfect sense because pretty much everyone here has Good anti-associates with iv, but gun-to-head i'd now say you're the partner, considering how hard have you two been defending each other, and margot's posts kinda leave her open to having to agree to yeet omega today, should it come to it.

hmm. omega "didn't have to vote iv", ari was arguing with the ic about iv being emotionally manipulative, and margot made that hugeassfucken post against iv. these are all great, but at least one of these interactions is s/s, if not two. i *guess* ari's is the weakest there. but ari/salsa is such a nonsense team? salsa basically boxing herself into having to scumread ari once dats flips green and then just *not* scumreading ari after that feels way too bold / out-there that i kinda don't think she'd do it.

[Aristeia]

i'm just lost

[Aristeia]

I'm not sure if I'd be sadder if scum you decided to misyeet me or if town you decided to misyeet me

[Datisi]

okay, if some part of you still thinks i'm town, who is scum then?

I already said this

where? all i found is you saying salsa is your top suspect but also that we should slow down. even if that's a scumread, that's still just one

why are you town, aristeia?

[Aristeia]

[Aristeia]

I somewhat doubt we have a protective because if we did then Roden shouldn't have died on N1.

Also 2 ICs + 1 Shot-Vig + killblocking role seems overpowered for a 13p mini.

it's possible both scum were just inactive and did not submit a nightkill - which would point towards Salsa/Chaos as niether have any posts on the site overnight and Salsa was VLA.

[Aristeia]

I'm town cuz I don't really treat scum-teammates the way I treated IV.