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[Nero Cain]

Andre is also a "null" kill. And I think that points to you or titus

[MathBlade]

If it's not Titus or dotw it's you,math

I mean you’re welcome to think that but realistically I expect to die tonight or the game will be solved because you’ll make it to end game.

If I don’t die tonight and miselim then four alive. No elim as is proper. If scum don’t shoot me again it’s me you + 1 and that scum is outed and I can case them.

It becomes a reverse of Calculasia.

[Nero Cain]

Part of me just wants to vote the Titus siblings but then there's dotw. Dgb prob wins this as scum

[MathBlade]

I don’t think scum try to work that position. It’s rather untenable. The only reason I did similar in Calculasia was due to player error of epic proportions where Wheme confirmed himself town. It’s not something I think a smart scum aims for.

[MathBlade]

Part of me just wants to vote the Titus siblings but then there's dotw. Dgb prob wins this as scum

Why do you want that Nero?

Is it because we are annoying or because you scumread us?
A null kill by definition points to no one. That’s why it’s null. If you’re arguing the kill points to me or Titus why?

[Nero Cain]

A little of A a little of B. Kinda odd that you are asking if I'm scum reading Titus and DOTW when I've been pushing for both the last 2 days. lol

If DOTW is scum and killed dre over me then it's just a good play on his part but its makes me feel like someone that has a little more experience would do that ergo you and Titus.

You especially.

The last time I caught scum Titus I was night killed and my death was used against her. IMM it's not impossible that a potential scum Titus might think twice about night killing me.

I feel like the last scum is between you, Titus and DOTW. Assuming that I'm correct and a wagon on Titus or DOTW flips town then I or whoever is still alive has a 50/50 chance of correctly voting scum but by voting outside of you 3 it gives you a better chance to hide.

In hindsight, I should have just stuck with my gut that this was a /5 split and not eliminated Kerset and spent yesterday, today, and tomorrow voting for you 3.

[MathBlade]

A little of A a little of B. Kinda odd that you are asking if I'm scum reading Titus and DOTW when I've been pushing for both the last 2 days. lol

If DOTW is scum and killed dre over me then it's just a good play on his part but its makes me feel like someone that has a little more experience would do that ergo you and Titus.

You especially.

The last time I caught scum Titus I was night killed and my death was used against her. IMM it's not impossible that a potential scum Titus might think twice about night killing me.

I feel like the last scum is between you, Titus and DOTW. Assuming that I'm correct and a wagon on Titus or DOTW flips town then I or whoever is still alive has a 50/50 chance of correctly voting scum but by voting outside of you 3 it gives you a better chance to hide.

In hindsight, I should have just stuck with my gut that this was a /5 split and not eliminated Kerset and spent yesterday, today, and tomorrow voting for you 3.

Okay let’s try this another way:

Of Titus and DoTW they are either T/T, S/T,T/S, or S/S.

The S/S borders on a bit of ridiculous.
This leaves T/T,S/T,T/S.

Both of them say that I am town. This means there is at least one Townie telling you that I am town, excluding DGB/Kyo who you have also conf towned in your mind.

We know A50 is town. Assume I am scum. How do you recreate N1?

[MathBlade]

A little of A a little of B. Kinda odd that you are asking if I'm scum reading Titus and DOTW when I've been pushing for both the last 2 days. lol

If DOTW is scum and killed dre over me then it's just a good play on his part but its makes me feel like someone that has a little more experience would do that ergo you and Titus.

You especially.

The last time I caught scum Titus I was night killed and my death was used against her. IMM it's not impossible that a potential scum Titus might think twice about night killing me.

I feel like the last scum is between you, Titus and DOTW. Assuming that I'm correct and a wagon on Titus or DOTW flips town then I or whoever is still alive has a 50/50 chance of correctly voting scum but by voting outside of you 3 it gives you a better chance to hide.

In hindsight, I should have just stuck with my gut that this was a /5 split and not eliminated Kerset and spent yesterday, today, and tomorrow voting for you 3.

Andres is absolutely a terrible kill dude. If I assume everyone is town here besides me I kill you or I kill Titus for the free DoTW miselim. Then I make it you me Kyo and kill DGB on MELO.

Scum 100% have to kill me tonight or they lose control of the game and it will be the Nero show

[MathBlade]

A little of A a little of B. Kinda odd that you are asking if I'm scum reading Titus and DOTW when I've been pushing for both the last 2 days. lol

If DOTW is scum and killed dre over me then it's just a good play on his part but its makes me feel like someone that has a little more experience would do that ergo you and Titus.

You especially.

The last time I caught scum Titus I was night killed and my death was used against her. IMM it's not impossible that a potential scum Titus might think twice about night killing me.

I feel like the last scum is between you, Titus and DOTW. Assuming that I'm correct and a wagon on Titus or DOTW flips town then I or whoever is still alive has a 50/50 chance of correctly voting scum but by voting outside of you 3 it gives you a better chance to hide.

In hindsight, I should have just stuck with my gut that this was a /5 split and not eliminated Kerset and spent yesterday, today, and tomorrow voting for you 3.

My top suspects are DoTW and Kyo and DGB. I don’t think Titus is scum here without Kyo. I think I really need a Kyo flip here I am trying to figure out the two scum bit and I cannot see that post from town. It feels like an engineered attempt at a townslip while being honest. I’d love to just elim her, confirm there is just one scum and die a happy man.

[MathBlade]

Then in 4 way elo it’s the Nero show pick whoever you want.

[Nero Cain]

I kill Titus for the free DoTW miselim. Then I make it you me Kyo and kill DGB on MELO.

if Titus is town why would scum ever kill her when me and kyo and you (at least you were scumreading her yesterday but maybe not anymore) scum need 2 miseliminations to win. If you were there's no way you kill Titus and not let me run wild on Titus and DOTW.

this post is bullshit

[Nero Cain]

I’d love to just elim her, confirm there is just one scum and die a happy man.

So that's what you want? to kill kyo today and get flipped if she flips town? I could get down with that.

[MathBlade]

I kill Titus for the free DoTW miselim. Then I make it you me Kyo and kill DGB on MELO.

if Titus is town why would scum ever kill her when me and kyo and you (at least you were scumreading her yesterday but maybe not anymore) scum need 2 miseliminations to win. If you were there's no way you kill Titus and not let me run wild on Titus and DOTW.

this post is bullshit

If I was scum I kill Titus because then it shades DoTW to the point of no return. I was scumreading everyone. That’s my job as conf town. Poke at everyone until I find who I think is most likely scum. My assumptions were wrong so I reassess.

[MathBlade]

I’d love to just elim her, confirm there is just one scum and die a happy man.

So that's what you want? to kill kyo today and get flipped if she flips town? I could get down with that.

No I want to flip Kyo to remove the possibility of two scum then be night killed.

[Nero Cain]

thats dumb

[Nero Cain]

I'd vote you over kyo. All of you, DBG, Titus and DOTW are scummy to me but only one of you is scum. If I had played better we should have just voted Titus or DOTW yesterday.

I can't really rule out DGB and there's a possibility that DGB was blocked but then I feel like a no kill to set up your claim or scum tried to kill a fitty is what occams says.

[Nero Cain]

So between you, titus and dotw the last scum resides, imho.

[MathBlade]

Why do you townread Kyo? Like my reads without the DoTW logic are almost exactly inverted.

[Nero Cain]

unless DGB is scum I wish House had not blocked and just used his invest n1 like he should have.

[MathBlade]

Like my order is Kyo,DGB,DoTW/Titus if I can’t use the DoTW logic from before

[Nero Cain]

I townread kyo b/c you scum read her.

It worked for CSF so your biggest town read is prob scum.

[Nero Cain]

what is this dotw logic?

[MathBlade]

Math, please for the love of God, do not dominate the thread here. If you do, it will result in you and me getting eliminated in a likely town loss.

We all know why Nero was left alive. That's to force my elimination prior to elo.

Math, please lay out what we know to be true. Even if it's dumb. Let's start there.

Nero is confirmed town because Ythan is a confirmed cop.
We know that scum has a PR of some kind. Innocents do not apply but VTs are very likely conf as only one scum could be in any VTs remaining.
I know I am town simple jailkeeper.
DoTW is capable of sending messages to players.
The person sent the DoTW message is alive.

Correct. So the only person we know is clear is Nero. So why an Andres kill over Nero? Andres was capable of doing nothing due to thread speed. Your jail of Kyouko was obvious, given the suspicion.

The next two actions would be eliminate me, then shoot Nero or eliminate you and shoot a non Nero townie.

This leaves two players. DGB/DotW/Kyouko (one dead by shot)

If my protection of Kyo is obvious then why isn’t Nero dead Titus?

Count through the PoE.

Instead scum shoot Andres.

This means that scum as of this night they knew the jailkeep was ineffective and not on Nero.

DGB tried to persuade me last night to “check” Nero. I didn’t and Nero still isn’t dead.

Instead Andres died.

So now all we need is the two digit number and that should prove scum is in DoTW alone I believe.

Start here and read the following posts

[Nero Cain]

The number/list thing? Yeah it's dumb and I'm ignoring it.

Also strange jump from "scum is a goon" to "scum has a pr"

[Nero Cain]

is anyone else playing?