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[Iconeum]

16k posts
Probably you should understand, playing so much...
Ico is susp too from now

great call, linking someone's skill level to number of posts

[Wiki]

Dwlee, Datisi, Ico? If so, gamma easily can be a scum for huge mistakes

[Iconeum]

so i'm scum to you now because i don't understand? or because i'm voting you? disagreeing with you?

[Wiki]

16k posts
Probably you should understand, playing so much...
Ico is susp too from now

great call, linking someone's skill level to number of posts

U just know enough about scum's thinking and you are pretending stupid like Datisi is doing now

[Iconeum]

excuse me?

[Iconeum]

you don't wanna go down this road if ur town, wiki

[Iconeum]

what's stupid exactly

[Selynee]

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

Meh, I think they don't really enjoy this game. Seemed like they were looking for some reactions to their self-vote, though not pushing a lot there...

[Wiki]

U dont understand, ico

i rarely understand

explain it to me like i'm 5?

Ok, i will say it loud.
If scum fakeclaims a cop, it helps scums to find a cop bc of the reactions of players after that.
Scums wish to find a cop or any important town role to kill it ASAP.
So fakeclaiming can be easily a scum thing.
But nobody thinks about it now and some experinced players like Datisi and Ico are even pretending that this is obv town's action, not thinking about how dangerous it is. Because they probably need any arguments to pocket me, knowing my color.

Comparing with Gamma: he does think that i can be a scum only for fakeclaiming, and this is ok. But at the same time Datisi says that fakeclaing cannot be scummy. This is is not ok. He cannot be so stupid about that in my opinion.

This is the point.

[Wiki]

why are you ing at that? like, explain to me why fakeclaiming daycop is scummy.

[Wiki]

He see no reasons to think that fakeclaiming is scummy because he is trying to pocket me.
If he was town, he wouldn't be so sure that fakeclaiming is not scummy. He would think about all possibilities.

[Iconeum]

U dont understand, ico

i rarely understand

explain it to me like i'm 5?

Ok, i will say it loud.
If scum fakeclaims a cop, it helps scums to find a cop bc of the reactions of players after that.
Scums wish to find a cop or any important town role to kill it ASAP.
So fakeclaiming can be easily a scum thing.
But nobody thinks about it now and some experinced players like Datisi and Ico are even pretending that this is obv town's action, not thinking about how dangerous it is. Because they probably need any arguments to pocket me, knowing my color.

Comparing with Gamma: he does think that i can be a scum only for fakeclaiming, and this is ok. But at the same time Datisi says that fakeclaing cannot be scummy. This is is not ok. He cannot be so stupid about that in my opinion.

This is the point.

ok

so

imagine a world where scum fakeclaim a cop - then a town cop counterclaims. what do you think happens to the first claim?

[Iconeum]

and like

if you consider both datisi and me experienced, which isn't wrong, shouldn't you assume that we most likely know what we are talking about?

[Iconeum]

you sound more and more like scum who thought to have an easy misyeet on your hands, and is now caught and trying to double down on it

[Salsabil Faria]

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

Meh, I think they don't really enjoy this game. Seemed like they were looking for some reactions to their self-vote, though not pushing a lot there...

Hmm can be, who do you propose to vote instead?

[Three]

What changed that made you decide her earlier logic was more sound than you originally thought?

like this annoys me because i never said her logic wasn't sound, she was scum *despite* because surprise, scum can make arguments that are logically sound

obviously i don't find her as scummy as i did earlier but you see my point

You literally said you hated her posts though? I'm trying to understand how you think her posts make sense but still think she's scummy.

What do you think she's saying?

I do have other reads, yes.

Can you explain the thought process behind your vote here?

oh my god

so you accused her of pocketing andres, right?

and she said that she finds it nice that you think scum!her would be able to pocket someone

and then you reply with "aha, so you're saying you think you could pocket someone!"

which (1) clearly isn't what she was saying, she was just saying your thoughts are nice and not agreeing with them, and (2) even if she was saying that, how is that a scumclaim? like, i think scum!me here would be able to pocket players like ico or t3, am i now lockscum too?

...What? I never accused her of pocketing Andres. I never accused her of pocketing anyone. She made that pocket comment towards T3, not me. And I didn't say she was lockscum either, hell, I didn't even say "aha, so you're saying you think you could pocket someone!" You're putting words in my mouth and you can easily fact check that. Everything you're accusing me of here factually did not happen.

The only thing I said was ask why she was scum claiming. I clearly interpreted it as scum claiming and asked her to clear it up, and then further explained why I saw it as scum claiming.

my thought process behind the vote is that you keep misconstructing people's arguments to the point i have a hard time believing you genuinely think what you're saying, especially since you claimed you have decent experience. and you seem to have zero reads besides sel. like it reeks of scum who is trying to appear busy by "tunneling" someone, and doing it with godawful arguments too

so what are your reads besides sel?

What argument have I misconstrued? This is the only one you could possibly argue that for and you're just wrong anyway.

I don't have "zero reads", I've already given takes.

How am I trying to appear busy or tunneling when I've been interacting with multiple people and keep getting dragged back to an argument from several hundred posts ago? I moved on yet I keep getting asked to defend my read. You can even see that I stopped talking to Sel about it before you dug it back up again, so I'm not sure what eise you want from me?

Why aren't you accusing Sel or Wiki of the same thing?

If you want a reads list you're out of luck, I don't do reads lists unless I have something actually substantial.

That

would be busy work to look town.

the "you" in the above post is obviously three, btw.

ico, wanna join me on this wagon?

also, how is that town!a50?

Hate the tone of this post. I didn't expect you to start acting this scummy over such a bad read.

[Three]

Tbf, I also didn’t get what

Sely

was saying at first using different phrases but now that I questioned her, the confusion get cleared.
Interesting fact is that, why

Three

still can't understand what she is saying where I joined late and understood her saying already.

@Three

mainly....

I understand what she's saying though? I said the metaphor was clunky and that Datisi's retelling made it more confusing.

[Three]

Tbf, I also didn’t get what

Sely

was saying at first using different phrases but now that I questioned her, the confusion get cleared.
Interesting fact is that, why

Three

still can't understand what she is saying where I joined late and understood her saying already.

@Three

mainly....

Thread activity dying out of nowhere.

@A50:

Can you explain why you voted yourself and then dipped out of the thread?

there's like

a really really obvious answer here and it's + town

i don't get the A50 pressure at all

I honestly just want to know what A50 is thinking. He hasn't really interacted much with everyone and he doesn't seem interested in the game.

[Three]

Tbf, I also didn’t get what

Sely

was saying at first using different phrases but now that I questioned her, the confusion get cleared.
Interesting fact is that, why

Three

still can't understand what she is saying where I joined late and understood her saying already.

@Three

mainly....

Thread activity dying out of nowhere.

@A50:

Can you explain why you voted yourself and then dipped out of the thread?

there's like

a really really obvious answer here and it's + town

i don't get the A50 pressure at all

U dont understand, ico

i rarely understand

explain it to me like i'm 5?

Ok, i will say it loud.
If scum fakeclaims a cop, it helps scums to find a cop bc of the reactions of players after that.
Scums wish to find a cop or any important town role to kill it ASAP.
So fakeclaiming can be easily a scum thing.
But nobody thinks about it now and some experinced players like Datisi and Ico are even pretending that this is obv town's action, not thinking about how dangerous it is. Because they probably need any arguments to pocket me, knowing my color.

Comparing with Gamma: he does think that i can be a scum only for fakeclaiming, and this is ok. But at the same time Datisi says that fakeclaing cannot be scummy. This is is not ok. He cannot be so stupid about that in my opinion.

This is the point.

He see no reasons to think that fakeclaiming is scummy because he is trying to pocket me.
If he was town, he wouldn't be so sure that fakeclaiming is not scummy. He would think about all possibilities.

Wiki, I get what you're saying here. But why can't Datisi be town who considered that you could be scum fake claiming, but then figured you were just a flailing townie?

[Three]

you sound more and more like scum who thought to have an easy misyeet on your hands, and is now caught and trying to double down on it

Who is the easy misyeet? Datisi?

[Wiki]

U dont understand, ico

i rarely understand

explain it to me like i'm 5?

Ok, i will say it loud.
If scum fakeclaims a cop, it helps scums to find a cop bc of the reactions of players after that.
Scums wish to find a cop or any important town role to kill it ASAP.
So fakeclaiming can be easily a scum thing.
But nobody thinks about it now and some experinced players like Datisi and Ico are even pretending that this is obv town's action, not thinking about how dangerous it is. Because they probably need any arguments to pocket me, knowing my color.

Comparing with Gamma: he does think that i can be a scum only for fakeclaiming, and this is ok. But at the same time Datisi says that fakeclaing cannot be scummy. This is is not ok. He cannot be so stupid about that in my opinion.

This is the point.

ok

so

imagine a world where scum fakeclaim a cop - then a town cop counterclaims. what do you think happens to the first claim?

ico, i have hundreds of games
i understand this perfectly
why you post this i dont understand
i think you still dont get it

[Three]

I don't see the obvious A50 town thing ico.

okay, so sell me on scum!A50? i don't see it

In my pervious games with them, they were more active as town. I don’t have scum meta on them though but they're lurking for some reason and the self vote is weird.

Meh, I think they don't really enjoy this game. Seemed like they were looking for some reactions to their self-vote, though not pushing a lot there...

Hmm can be, who do you propose to vote instead?

This feels pretty scum indicative. I don't know how you could be so lost on who to vote for that you need someone to tell you who to vote.

VOTE: Salsa

[Wiki]

datisi with ico is possible

[Wiki]

Wiki, I get what you're saying here. But why can't Datisi be town who considered that you could be scum fake claiming, but then figured you were just a flailing townie?

strange question. ok, show me a moment when datisi considers me scum

[Three]

Wiki, I get what you're saying here. But why can't Datisi be town who considered that you could be scum fake claiming, but then figured you were just a flailing townie?

strange question. ok, show me a moment when datisi considers me scum

do you think it's plausible that i (or anyone, really) am lying about being vla two days a week?

@wiki, it's cool you're responding to random votes, can you respond to actual questions?

I can.

respond to 14 then?

No.

VOTE: wiki

VOTE: Datisi
I believe in Datisi's ability to ping my towndar if town so let's see where this goes

hmm
why did you townread me for in the first place? i see the recent post saying you usually find town!me quickly, and i'm assuming 72 is a townread.

also on page 4, i don't get your iconeum scumread at all

And I don’t know when you’ve seen them roll over as Scum. I have seen something totally different. But I also had them pinned down as Scum so maybe that had something to do with it.

that's the game i was talking about earlier. i made him trip up on page ~3, he was hammered 12 hours later. so, uh. yeah.

kinda feeling selynee is scummy at start of page 6, her posting so far seems like mostly aimless questions with little-to-no follow up

kinda feel like Wiki is town already

i'mma need some elaboration on this one, chief, because he's surely not feeling like it for me

oh, 135 is a thing - disagreed on it feeling like genuine principles
like wiki's dwlee vote is feeling sorta like his earlier "suspicion" on me, which is shoving plainly nai things as basis for reads
depending on wiki's experience / skill level, this would be either +town or +scum (i feel like it's more likely to be +scum for a newbie and slightly +town for a veteran), but he's an alt and i'm not feeling too confident in his claims about experience so /shrug

and a50's shitposting is reminding me of that last game where he was scum bc i remember he was shitposting a fair bit there too
one townread, can i have one townread pls

hmm

ico, you unvoted me kinda quick

you scared?

Bad vines

?

Vibes

i get that you meant vibes, but what does that *mean*

bad vibes on me? on ico? why aren't you voting then?

You
I usually never vote someone just based on vibes.

are you allergic to actually using your words when explaining things?

bottom of page 6, be back soon-ish.

also now that i'm caught up, i wanna point out that i hate pretty much everything that selynee has posted so far and would probably have been voting her, had wiki not been as scummy as he's being

one townread, can i have one townread pls

are you not townreading me?

if not, why did you give up on the pressure? town!tisi *knows* he can corner and punish scum!ico, so if you don't townread me.... yeah

hiii ico
give me a reason you townread wiki that isn't "he's too wack to be scum"

to answer the quoted
in part because you weren't falling for fake pressure and wouldn't trip up the same way so it's pointless to fakescumread you again
in part because i did think your response was somewhat +town
in part because i wanted to see what you did if i let you off easy

so why did you say you wanna townread me if you were pinged by what andres said earlier?

pedit: this post is already outdated but answer the q anyway pls