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Jacket · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:20 pm

I don't think I actually want to read more, that's an incredibly scummy post from ZenMan based on flips/reads.

Jacket · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:22 pm

Fine with the bottom 2. Probably need to put more time on reading Pizza/dwlee. Not tonight though.

MathBlade · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:44 pm

I think the general consensus is zen/T3 yeah? I will focus on them tonight.

Jacket · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:53 pm

In post 2102, MathBlade wrote:I think the general consensus is zen/T3 yeah? I will focus on them tonight.

T3 is largely townread now. He claimed odd night traffic analyst/even night neighbor finder, which makes sense with the setup, and without him town is underpowered.

I also think that if ZenMan is mafia, that post I quoted is spewing T3 as town.

MathBlade · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:07 pm

Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.

MathBlade · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:08 pm

I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.

Jacket · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 2104, MathBlade wrote:Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.

The only actual useful PR would be a complex vig, then there's just...a mailman that knows about the traitor, and a bulletproof neighbor. That's not enough roles that do things.

Jacket · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:12 pm

In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.

You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT

Jacket · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:12 pm

T3 claims roleblocked on both the odd nights.

MathBlade · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:15 pm

In post 2106, Jacket wrote:
In post 2104, MathBlade wrote:Sorry misread I have been doing a shit ton of overtime recently.

What makes you say town is underpowered? I have seen some games with 3 goons for scum before.
The only actual useful PR would be a complex vig, then there's just...a mailman that knows about the traitor, and a bulletproof neighbor. That's not enough roles that do things.

Are you saying lack of invest?
Vig is IC which in normals is a confirmed town.
Mailman knows about the traitor which becomes a second IC announcing traitor immediately.

Invests generally are meant to provide IC/hints to the game.

If you look at a recent normal I played with Kyo recently there was FN babysitter and IC versus three goons.

I think I would need a claims list or a general sense of PRs left before judging one way or another.

MathBlade · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:17 pm

In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT

Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?

Jacket · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:18 pm

In post 2110, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT
Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?

He got run up and forced to claim day 1 because I was tunneling him (I didn't like the way he pushed fua).

MathBlade · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:22 pm

In post 2111, Jacket wrote:
In post 2110, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2107, Jacket wrote:
In post 2105, MathBlade wrote:I really wish there was a list of claims somewhere.
You know all the relevant ones.

Zenman - Bulletproof neighbor
T3 - Odd Night Traffic Analyst/Even Night Neighbor Finder
Everyone else - VT
Hmm T3 claimed blocked both nights.

When did T3 claim?
He got run up and forced to claim day 1 because I was tunneling him (I didn't like the way he pushed fua).

I am going to go read D1 because I think sorting T3 is paramount here.

Because if T3 is town scum didn’t/don’t view him as a threat.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:06 pm

If t3 is town then scum have a roleblocker so they wouldn't care about him

MathBlade · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:51 pm

In post 1996, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
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With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate. Day 4 ends when an elimination is decided or in (expired on 2021-10-28 09:00:00).

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T3 · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:07 am

In post 2090, TheZenMan wrote:Honestly don't lim me solely based on mechanics. It's easily possible that 2 neighbours have the exact same role. It actually makes more sense given that it's probably mind games from the mods.

LMAOOOO

T3 · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:11 am

Math town

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:57 am

Prodding Save The Dragons, however he has been on V/LA since before the thread unlocked

TheZenMan · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:01 am

In the words of T3, please don't lime me.

MathBlade · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:02 am

In post 2118, TheZenMan wrote:In the words of T3, please don't lime me.

Who would you lim instead?

TheZenMan · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:03 am

T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?

TheZenMan · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:06 am

In post 2119, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2118, TheZenMan wrote:In the words of T3, please don't lime me.
Who would you lim instead?

Save the dragon is the best choice IMO. Has mostly flip flopped and basically been coasting by because he never says anything of substance. Refer you to my post #1742.

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MathBlade · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:17 am

In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?

Not sure what you’re getting at here. The mailman flipped town. Iirc T3 said no result or am I mixing stuff up?

Dwlee99 · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:19 am

In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?

I think he withheld the info cause he was crumbing it to cookie (crumb, cookie, nice) based on whatever the mail he got said

TheZenMan · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:57 am

In post 2122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, TheZenMan wrote:T3 still hasn't said why he was withholding N1 info. He withheld being roleblocked and messaged by mailman for no reason. Why exactly was that?
Not sure what you’re getting at here. The mailman flipped town. Iirc T3 said no result or am I mixing stuff up?

He got roleblocked (or so he claims) N1, but then he choose to withhold that information for some reason. Not sure why he would want to even crumb that to cookie, it's way more beneficial for town to know there is a roleblocker rather than try to crumb it to cookie.