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[NorwegianboyEE]

unless im overthinking, and it's just norwegian.

If you think it’s me, then you are overthinking it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also you've never played against scum!me. So if anyone here would be susceptible to overestimating my scum!game, it's probably you.

[Hella Jeff]

I can't think of any reason why getting rid of the goon is beneficial when there's a claimed follower... oh wait.

[Almost50]

S_S put us on hold and went to sleep

[Something_Smart]

I thought it would be obvious :/

Because T3 can make the kills while he's alive?

[Dwlee99]

Does April seriously think it's me

Can I get a consensus on if we think the role cop is town or not

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can I get a consensus on if we think the role cop is town or not

Would knowing this today... change anything?

[Dwlee99]

Oh I guess not yea

[April Ludgate]

Hmmm, I’m just bouncing back and forth right now is all Dwlee, checking every crevice.

Andante looking bad for me right now

T3 lockscum

[osuka]

Y not just kill T3.

I already explained that. T3 is basically "dead scum walking". Him not doing anything last night points to him being a Goon. I want to try to hunt for a Scum PR. We have a "Scum Doctor" (as per Enchant's result) and a "Scum Role Cop" (as per Dwlee's claim). The latter is what concerns me more at this point.

counterpoint: if t3 is gated scum pr, isnt it sensible to let someone else perform the night kill?

Countercounterpoint: What gated Scum PR stays put on D1? Give me ONE Role you think would do that.

{even-day, day 2} mafia {role}

[osuka]

or night whatever you know what i mean, even night gated scum can’t do anything

why are you getting intentionally obtuse

[Enchant]

Anyway.

I am Combined Voyer-Follower. I discover type of ability target performed and type of ability's performed on target.

I targeted T3 last night. He didn't do anything. But.
Someone ELSE used protective ability on them. And April claimed she was on SS.

It makes up for Third Protective Claim, which i doubt.
Moreover T3 have almost zero excuses to not act. I would knew if he was roleblocked or jailed, and he was not, it means he simple... Can't protect and thus not bodyguard. Or didn't apply action, that's kinda reason why i asked him question but he fucking dissapear and turned me mad.
Or well Ninja-Roleblocker but this is specific shit.

did t3 claim _ungated_ bodyguard? how does no action mean a guilty?

most pressingly, what about a mafia jailkeeper?

Jailkeeping ability counts as "Jailkeeping" for me and i would saw it.
T3 claimed 3-Shot Bodyguard and directly was asked to protect April. I can't make up any reason to not do so (saving shots for later).


Killing T3 now prevents scum from using him as kill machine. I can get guilty on killing mafia by sawing them commiting Kill ability.
... WELL IF I SURVIVE I SUPPOSE.

[osuka]

oh you’re right i suppose i can’t fucking read, never mind that then

[osuka]

gated mafia role thing still applies though

[geraintm]

Sorry, staying at SiL's this weekend so less time to post.

I am more than happy to have T3 on the block. I confess I found their claim suspicious initially, but everyone else thought it was fine so I went with everyone else.
But, my main reason for not believing the claim was a total misunderstanding of the wiki - I thought it was a one shot ability for a normal game and claiming 3 shot made it mot possible. I am an idiot.

[Almost50]

I thought it would be obvious :/

Because T3 can make the kills while he's alive?

And..? JK can take care of that. There should be one active lurking somewhere.. I think

[Almost50]

Can I get a consensus on if we think the role cop is town or not

I definitely don't.

[Almost50]

Can I get a consensus on if we think the role cop is town or not

Would knowing this today... change anything?

YES. It would make some people think about trying to get said Rolecop today and get

Carter

T3 tomorrow

[Almost50]

why are you getting intentionally obtuse

I am not the one arguing both ways of my mouth. YOU were looking for outs for T3, yet YOU are arguing he might be a Scum PR (which -btw- would make the scum team ALL PRs)

[Almost50]

gated mafia role thing still applies though

WHAT are you on about now?? You suggested T3 could have been JK'd. Now you just want to be right on something so back to gated PR? Make up your mind. DO YOU WANT TO LIM T3 OR NOT? Is T3 SCUM to you or not? I want an explicit commitment here. If you believe him to be "gated Scum PR" why didn't you vote there already anyhow?

[Almost50]

but everyone else thought it was fine

Are you reading ANYTHING? Like.. at least FIVE players expressed doubt about the claim at the time.

[T3]

t3, y claim BG and do fuck all with your guaranteed d1 survival

Wasn’t I going to die and all, day 1?

[T3]

Anyway.

I am Combined Voyer-Follower. I discover type of ability target performed and type of ability's performed on target.

I targeted T3 last night. He didn't do anything. But.
Someone ELSE used protective ability on them. And April claimed she was on SS.

It makes up for Third Protective Claim, which i doubt.
Moreover T3 have almost zero excuses to not act. I would knew if he was roleblocked or jailed, and he was not, it means he simple... Can't protect and thus not bodyguard. Or didn't apply action, that's kinda reason why i asked him question but he fucking dissapear and turned me mad.
Or well Ninja-Roleblocker but this is specific shit.

did t3 claim _ungated_ bodyguard? how does no action mean a guilty?

most pressingly, what about a mafia jailkeeper?

I claimed 3 shot BG, I’m actually vt

[T3]

doesn't t3 have a history of claims that don't benefit the game at all as the cool town alignment
i know he did it in a newbie game once
what are the differences between this game, that one newbie game (might link later) and the one where he claimed odd night xxx even night traffic analyst or something like that

The mason thing was a 0 iq gambit

[Enchant]

Well kinda ok T3.

Who is mafia if that's not you?