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[OutWorldER]

For right now I trust RTP because I'm fairly sure this is their town game and so I'm willing to go along with a Lapla elim because of that. Neither IV or S_S have done anything to dissuade my previous thoughts on their slots so I'll remain parked though.
Honestly I didn't get much out of these last few pages.

House's posting reminds me of when I was 13 and so I trust him instinctively. That is not a dig at him that's my genuine feeling lol

I'm 46, though.

checks out, anyone over the age of 30 posting on the internet posts like a mid 2000's teenager.
not sure how that's supposed to be TMI though.

[House]

I also have a sinking feeling at least one (but more likely two) of the three votes on me are scum motivated.

[House]

Monkey Business is this your usual M.O.?

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, you can check my previous games to verify the fact (and hopefully find a game or two were I was NOT active on D1 too)

Mind linking me to one?

I've never seen you be lurksack town, but I HAVE seen you be lurksack scum.

[Datisi]

i am awake at this disgustingly early time against my will and why are there 10 new pages

[House]

i am awake at this disgustingly early time against my will and why are there 10 new pages

I'm in the game. Hello?

[Aristeia]

hope you slept well!

[Datisi]

i had a dream i was modding a dance game and s_s flipped red, and the final 4 was peta/ydrasse and pooky/gypyx and gypyx was scum, but i didn't mod the game properly from that point on and i got permabanned. anyway this game yes

Would like to hear ur reasoning to tr house (tom of course)
Night dats!

i love how this post has the subtle tone of "for the love of fuck, go to sleep"

anyway, at the time, my townread consisted mostly of his "scumread" on me. like, he started attacking a generally townread person with reasoning that was so batshit insane it wasn't going to convince anyone, and it would only attract heat his way. so like what was the point. having slept on it, i'll admit this isn't really Rock Solid because i don't have enough experience w house to know if he does shit like that as scum. my first thought is a no, because people *generally* don't do that as scum, but i can't say for certain

No skitter omg don't stop the thought train make it a vote train I was trying to stay away from the thread for a few more hours but I went for a walk and I couldn't stop drafting this great post in my head that scum cased house based on VP = VI in a tvt with me and

house preferring to take VP with him to lylo over me but willing to hammer either

so shading me but not committing either way, and

house dropping a TMI with his weird read on innocentvillager

(though I don't know if he's trying to get town cred by defending a lurker he knows is townie or trying to protect his scum buddy because i sr iv's apathy as well he said he joined because the playerlist was interesting so why isn't he more interested?).

frogster, could you link/quote where you think house is doing the bolded? my knee-jerk reaction to this post yesterday was "what", but i feel like i should be doing my due diligence here so

Datsi

who?

Datisi - You know what's fucked? The only other time I can remember Datisi easy town reading me early was in 2195* when he was scum. I know this because he talks about this game a lot and I actually just looked it up. Other than that, has seemed townish. Would not yeet D1.

while i like the ~initiative~ and ~proactivity~ that this post brings, i'm not sure how much i like the fact that a lot of this post is... "lol idk haha". also, didn't we just have a realization that only scum posts readslists early?

in any case, the part on me is correct, the one and only time i publicly townread you early was when i was scum. what about my play is "townish" enough to offset that point for you?

re house's 496: being disconnected from the game and being not engaged in a game are not the same thing, but ok

ok i'm gonna vegetate for a bit here, be back in a bit

[Aristeia]

dance game

when are you going to invite me to a dance game? ~_~

[House]

re house's 496: being disconnected from the game and being not engaged in a game are not the same thing, but ok

Maybe to you, but as far as I'm concerned the words are synonymous.

[Datisi]

Voting someone and claiming they're a deep wolf is the same thing as saying they look like town but have to be scum that will be hard to eliminate... BECAUSE THERE IS NO CASE AGAINST THEM.

except not really, frogster did have a case on you (as weird as it was) and claimed you were more of a deepwolf than iv (i.e. you're being more townread than iv), that's nowhere near the same as saying "house looks town but i will vote him anyway"

Datisi - I don't have any thoughts on Datisi's alignment, but he's definitely next on my radar to read if I get some time because I do feel like Datisi gives off genuine hints of towniness if you look closely enough.

skitter - I really don't have any thoughts on skitter. I've concluded I have absolutely no idea how to read her and I doubt I will be able to. I'm very paranoid of this slot in general.

what is the point of including either of these

also i just realized that i find it potentially concerning that this list had no thoughts on vp, because my earlier "i wish iv was playing this game" comment was about the fact that i think iv is much less paranoid of vp so he stops me from spiraling into a paranoia tunnel, but the fact that vp was not even mentioned in the list is ??? ? ? ? ?? ?

ok i see he was mentioned in 533 and uuuuuuuuugh iv why can't you just be town instead of spending so much time explaining why you won't be town

no. We've been TvT in 2180, Jungle, and 2207. Actually, you me and Datisi were TvTvT in all 3 of those.

Fun fact, we lost all of those games.

Oof, jungle hurt. Here is to all of us being town and getting redemption.

i am still mad about jungle oligarchy. still mad!

I would be surprised if any in the dark green flipped scum.

why are innocentvillager and laplacian in greens?

VOTE: laplacian
I never Townresd this slot btw I just wanted to be the good cop whole people were pushing them to get them to feel hopeful: 3

btw, this was my reasoning for putting rtp in "slightly townie but also very headache" part of the triangle - i recognized that their "townread" on laplacian was just fishing for associates, bc i know they do that as town. my issue is that that seemed a *bit* too over the top, like if their true goal was getting associates, it felt a *bit* too friendly. maybe it's more not being used to the cutesy emojis on this account, though >_>

my solve has been vp/iv/laplacian for a while now :3 I largely townread everyone else here

a50 is the only null methinks

i can vibe with this *i guess*, except for the vp part, why is he scum?

unsure abt laplacian

That's my primary question mark in light green, with the outside possibility of Datisi as dark horse.

something something hunting deepwolfs on day one

i got to a big wallpost from frogster, will take another break

[Datisi]

dance game

when are you going to invite me to a dance game? ~_~

when is the next dance game happening?

re house's 496: being disconnected from the game and being not engaged in a game are not the same thing, but ok

Maybe to you, but as far as I'm concerned the words are synonymous.

not engaged = not posting much
being disconnected = posting things that are obviously out of tune to what is happening in the game

like if i now disappeared for the next 48 hours, that's not engaged. if i now dropped a case on how the scumteam is house/vp/frogsterking because they decided they will start the game by doing a ton of nonsense pointless theater, that's disconnected.

inb4 that actually is the team and i am being stupid

i think that is how skitter was using it, so

[Aristeia]

when is the next dance game happening?

mmmmm is that a promise?

[Datisi]

reading through 592, i'm reminded of the fact that laplacian's original vote on frogsterking was about him talking about a survey but not posting it. how come there was no update on his read of frogster? not only did he post the survey, he also used the reactions to build a worldview... instead laplacian spends time arguing about why the survey isn't some magical tool for scumhunting (452)?

oh, there's also 458, where he says frogster is town "for effort" but he's leaving the vote there anyway and askjfesgrhegt

okay i got to where i started posting

can't say i'm a fan of a50. the only kind-of-read i see from him is the "scum are pushing me", but even that is very surface-level and i can't say i actually think it's hard to fake or anything.

other than that, i want to go back to voting laplacian, but i should probably check what the votes are at first

[Datisi]

mmmmm is that a promise?

you know i would love to dance with you <3

[Datisi]

VOTE: laplacian

i'm gonna go pretend to be doing work, catcha later

[Aristeia]

you are fourth vote and I am fifth vote I think.

VOTE: Laplacian

E-2

[Aristeia]

mmmmm is that a promise?

you know i would love to dance with you <3

Spoiler: For Dats

[Datisi]

For right now I trust RTP because I'm fairly sure this is their town game

why do you townread them that strongly?

[Frogsterking]

@Datisi

Datisi's question:

Spoiler:

i had a dream i was modding a dance game and s_s flipped red, and the final 4 was peta/ydrasse and pooky/gypyx and gypyx was scum, but i didn't mod the game properly from that point on and i got permabanned. anyway this game yes

Would like to hear ur reasoning to tr house (tom of course)
Night dats!

i love how this post has the subtle tone of "for the love of fuck, go to sleep"

anyway, at the time, my townread consisted mostly of his "scumread" on me. like, he started attacking a generally townread person with reasoning that was so batshit insane it wasn't going to convince anyone, and it would only attract heat his way. so like what was the point. having slept on it, i'll admit this isn't really Rock Solid because i don't have enough experience w house to know if he does shit like that as scum. my first thought is a no, because people *generally* don't do that as scum, but i can't say for certain

No skitter omg don't stop the thought train make it a vote train I was trying to stay away from the thread for a few more hours but I went for a walk and I couldn't stop drafting this great post in my head that scum cased house based on VP = VI in a tvt with me and

house preferring to take VP with him to lylo over me but willing to hammer either

so shading me but not committing either way, and

house dropping a TMI with his weird read on innocentvillager

(though I don't know if he's trying to get town cred by defending a lurker he knows is townie or trying to protect his scum buddy because i sr iv's apathy as well he said he joined because the playerlist was interesting so why isn't he more interested?).

frogster, could you link/quote where you think house is doing the bolded? my knee-jerk reaction to this post yesterday was "what", but i feel like i should be doing my due diligence here so

Datsi

who?

Datisi - You know what's fucked? The only other time I can remember Datisi easy town reading me early was in 2195* when he was scum. I know this because he talks about this game a lot and I actually just looked it up. Other than that, has seemed townish. Would not yeet D1.

while i like the ~initiative~ and ~proactivity~ that this post brings, i'm not sure how much i like the fact that a lot of this post is... "lol idk haha". also, didn't we just have a realization that only scum posts readslists early?

in any case, the part on me is correct, the one and only time i publicly townread you early was when i was scum. what about my play is "townish" enough to offset that point for you?

re house's 496: being disconnected from the game and being not engaged in a game are not the same thing, but ok

ok i'm gonna vegetate for a bit here, be back in a bit

Quote of me answering same question from House earlier:

Spoiler:

I would hammer frog over Baltar 10 times out of 10, at this point.

Still prefer Scorpious, though.

Ok really frog is town theyre just pushing silly strategy which isnt scummy just ambitious :3

Yeah, maybe. I find the extremely questionable framing and not answering simple questions pretty anti-town, but he might just play like shit so idk.

Not to mention, not answering questions is pretty inconsistent coming from a player that's wanting everyone to answer a long ass RQS.

These posts were what made me think you were instigating a t v t and planning to miselim one of us and take another to lylo.

The comment about the "old guard" seemed mysterious, like you had more information, and in context despite what you said about being wary you chose not to join in on the innocentvillager wagon when there didn't appear to be a lot going for them.

It doesn't seem believable to me any more. I think I was in my head and I want it to stop.

Also, this part from Datisi 585 was helpful to my townread of skitter a little bit:

not engaged = not posting much
being disconnected = posting things that are obviously out of tune to what is happening in the game

like if i now disappeared for the next 48 hours, that's not engaged. if i now dropped a case on how the scumteam is house/vp/frogsterking because they decided they will start the game by doing a ton of nonsense pointless theater, that's disconnected.

inb4 that actually is the team and i am being stupid

i think that is how skitter was using it, so

I was wondering what they meant too, it looks like skitter is saying it seems townie that I doubled back out of paranoia and wasted lots of time chasing red herrings, like a reverse TMI being used as a town tell, and partly it's townie in this context with me because I don't seem to get anything out of it so it doesn't have a clear scum intent behind it. Okay, that makes sense to me.

[Frogsterking]

Two things I want to ask of the playerlist as a whole concerning the immediate state of the game:

#1

Do you think any or all of Lap, iv, a50 are lunchbait?

#2

Is there any reason why any or all of these wagons

can't

be scum lead, or at least largely pushed by scum?

[Datisi]

#1 Do you think any or all of Lap, iv, a50 are lunchbait?

#2 Is there any reason why any or all of these wagons can't be scum lead, or at least largely pushed by scum?

i can see a universe where town!iv is playing like this, and he always reads scummy to me early anyway, so sure. a50 can definitely be yeetbait *if* the town is one of those to think weird = scummy. no clue on lap, i might try to do a cursory meta check tonight when i come home, but no promises.

i don't think there is? like, my own reads tell me the answer is "the wagons are town-motivated", but my own reads are at least lightly townreading everyone but those three + s_s, so either i'm the next paragon or we're fucking up somewhere. if we're talking about ~gamestate~ reads, i would guess that there exist representatives of both alignments in the three names. mostly, it seems to me like there's similar people jumping from one wagon to another, but there is enough difference in the reads of the wagoners that i can't help but feel that at least some of it is agenda-based and intentional.

i know this is a super vague non-answer, but i don't think i have any better at this point in time.

[House]

something something hunting deepwolfs on day one

Saying something is possible ≠ "hunting"

Stop the dumb shit.

[House]

not engaged = not posting much
being disconnected = posting things that are obviously out of tune to what is happening in the game

https://thesaurus.yourdictionary.com/disconnect

Checkmate.

[Frogsterking]

#1 Do you think any or all of Lap, iv, a50 are lunchbait?

#2 Is there any reason why any or all of these wagons can't be scum lead, or at least largely pushed by scum?

i can see a universe where town!iv is playing like this, and he always reads scummy to me early anyway, so sure. a50 can definitely be yeetbait *if* the town is one of those to think weird = scummy. no clue on lap, i might try to do a cursory meta check tonight when i come home, but no promises.

i don't think there is? like, my own reads tell me the answer is "the wagons are town-motivated", but my own reads are at least lightly townreading everyone but those three + s_s, so either i'm the next paragon or we're fucking up somewhere. if we're talking about ~gamestate~ reads, i would guess that there exist representatives of both alignments in the three names. mostly, it seems to me like there's similar people jumping from one wagon to another, but there is enough difference in the reads of the wagoners that i can't help but feel that at least some of it is agenda-based and intentional.

i know this is a super vague non-answer, but i don't think i have any better at this point in time.

Is Paragon a real person?

[House]

i think that is how skitter was using it, so

skitter didn't get all pissy about my verbiage, so there's no need for you to be offended on her behalf.