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[Crescent]

Whatever we're playing this is far beyond mafia

Whatever you are playing....

Like, I get not Mafia 'so thing, this is him. Useless but him.

But you, you aren't normally like this are you?

I want a vote count

As I mentioned earlier today, Vivax said this was his first game at the start, and his join date would coincide with that. It could be that he just finds mafia more interesting to troll than to play. He does seem to be taking after NM quite a bit.

And yeah we haven't had a new votecount in like 28 hours.

[Crescent]

I've followed the logic being put forward, and I am sure some of it is correct, but it can't all be. I have lost all interest in this game, my postings today are becoming harder and harder for me to muster up and energy to make. I just want this over.
I admit I have lost the will to spend mental effort to try and work it iut. I thought my vote at the start of the day made sense, and I am sure someone at the time said we should rush through today and we haven't and scum is laughing because apathy is going to lose it for us

Actually that was me, except it was going so fast it was alarming to me. The entire town felt like it was practically giving up at the start of the day. I probably should've just hammered NM last night, though, but I wanted to make sure everyone had said their peace. Actually getting a hammer out of me in that situation requires me to be totally exasperated.

Personally so long as Corwin isn't around I'm still ok, but I am weary.

Nothing that's happened since last night has said to me that an NM vote isn't the next step for game solving. Eira is just a nonsensical tangent of votes that's never going to happen and honestly Vivax knows this.

If scum is Gibus/Vivax, they mega lucked out by three different town players not hammering on Vivax when given the chance - It would've been quite the gamble.


This Gera post kinda gives me town vibes of "Can we just get this over with already I'm forcing myself to care". I've been there before.

[Corwinoid]

Not_Mafia (2): geraintm, Elsa Jay
Vivax (1): Eiralox
Elsa Jay (1): gibus
Eiralox (1): Vivax

Not voting (3): Crescent, Not_Mafia, Corwinoid

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to launch.

Deadline: 2 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes

[geraintm]

Whatever we're playing this is far beyond mafia

Whatever you are playing....

Like, I get not Mafia 'so thing, this is him. Useless but him.

But you, you aren't normally like this are you?

I want a vote count

How would you know what I normally am like? My thoughts to voice process is a lot different and difficult to apply than thoughts to text. There is anarchy on paper.[/quote
Sorry, I didn't realise this was your first game, I assumed you had played before, and played better before

[Corwinoid]

I've followed the logic being put forward, and I am sure some of it is correct, but it can't all be. I have lost all interest in this game, my postings today are becoming harder and harder for me to muster up and energy to make. I just want this over.
I admit I have lost the will to spend mental effort to try and work it iut. I thought my vote at the start of the day made sense, and I am sure someone at the time said we should rush through today and we haven't and scum is laughing because apathy is going to lose it for us

Work with me then, please. Gibus is right, we need to focus on resolving the conflicting PR claims today. I brought this up earlier, and literally nobody cared, but this is what we need to be working on.

Right now I find gibus a lot more trustworthy than Elsa on this, since she tried to dodge it and keep these competing claims going into MyLo tomorrow. And a few other things.

@Everyone else: Please, we need to rally around the things that matter instead of trying to go for a feel-good launch because everyone has given up. Eira, Vivax, I need you guys working with me instead self destructing on nothing.

VOTE: Elsa

[Vivax]

Whatever we're playing this is far beyond mafia

Whatever you are playing....

Like, I get not Mafia 'so thing, this is him. Useless but him.

But you, you aren't normally like this are you?

I want a vote count

How would you know what I normally am like? My thoughts to voice process is a lot different and difficult to apply than thoughts to text. There is anarchy on paper.

Sorry, I didn't realise this was your first game, I assumed you had played before, and played better before[/quote]

Better against whom is the question.

[Elsa Jay]

Corwin do you seriously wanna be responsible for this town voting out three town PRs in a row by voting me?

[Corwinoid]

Yes.

Right now the most logical thing to do is flip one of you and flip the other one tomorrow if you come up green. It's the most immediately solving action we have as town, and everyone is dancing around it because you've been floating Vivax and NM. Almost everyone read me and Vivax as TvT, I have history with BBT and he read Vivax as town -- which is really the most reliable read I have in the game right now. NM hasn't been incredibly useful this game, but it's an easy launch to get going so the conflicting PR claims can get carried over into a game losing situation for Town.

Your motivations today don't make sense from town, Elsa, and you've burnt through my trust. We need to resolve this, and between the two of you I'm putting my faith in the person who wants to hit the issue head on instead of burying it.

[Elsa Jay]

I like living. If it's townie to die I don't like doing it. Hell BG is antithetical to my playstyle. If Gibus dies then scum kill me Tonight. If he lives he can't kill me.

What's so hard to understand there?

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 3.5

Not_Mafia (2):

geraintm, Elsa Jay

Elsa Jay (2):

gibus, Corwinoid

Vivax (1):

Eiralox

Eiralox (1):

Vivax

Not voting (2):

Crescent, Not_Mafia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-30 12:40:00)

[Crescent]

Wait I thought NM was on Eiralox why did I think that.

I do find it interesting that Elsa has never filled in the "redacted" that I can remember.

[Elsa Jay]

I did Cres. Second or third post for day 3 from me.

[Crescent]

Anyways I actually kinda feel like I might be out of things to say and my brain is just floating around now and it's not a bad feeling. My cat definitely appreciates all the snuggles she's gotten today.

After all this discussion I kinda just don't feel like any team lacking one of Gibus and Elsa is viable. It didn't click for me early in the day that the Jack was protective too. Eira/NM works from the VCA but still makes no sense from a balance perspective. I have no idea why Vivax would even waste his vote on the one that has a 0% chance of getting voted off of the two.

[Crescent]

I did Cres. Second or third post for day 3 from me.

Oh look me look at your stuff again

[Crescent]

Oh I was only looking at page 2 of your ISO earlier and it's at the bottom of page 1. I didn't realize you even had day 3 posts there yay I got lazy.

...A town PR that dies upon use that enables a scum PR that can stop it from killing itself? I never even considered the possibility of a town role that could enable a scum role. Seems weird.

And Gibus is claiming he wasn't RBed with his check late night, but that kinda doesn't make sense, but..

If he's town, him protecting me would've been easily predictable and scum could've just shot around him without blocking him. This would imply scum essentially electing not to RB at all, which is possible.

Huh, something to think about again.

[gibus]

Not worth the risk since I had alex as a potential target.

[gibus]

Does the fact that I've neither been role blocked or nked imply that there's a rolestopper instead of a roleblocker?

Does the fact that I've neither been role blocked or nked imply that there's a rolestopper instead of a roleblocker?

On this note, can you even be an X-enabler if X doesn't exist?
Maybe there really is an impostor among the two of us.

What do you think of this?

[Elsa Jay]

So your saying they possibly Roleblocked the Bodyguard instead of the Doctor who says he can confirm he's Roleblocked?

I wonder why.

[Crescent]

Cursory summary:

Elsa's initial claim came 26 minutes after Gibus, it was her next post, and it was in response to Alex voting her.

No one other than Gibus, Alex, and I were posting at the time. It's not what I'd call a

significant

amount of time to come up with a plan that extended into day 3 just to mess with Gibus more when Gibus already looked not-great.

[Crescent]

Not worth the risk since I had alex as a potential target.

Does the fact that I've neither been role blocked or nked imply that there's a rolestopper instead of a roleblocker?

Does the fact that I've neither been role blocked or nked imply that there's a rolestopper instead of a roleblocker?

On this note, can you even be an X-enabler if X doesn't exist?
Maybe there really is an impostor among the two of us.

What do you think of this?

I've never heard of a role stopper that doesn't notify it's target it's been role stopped, though it's a role I've rarely ever seen before. Not being RBed on a single night feels like a leap to stopper.

[Elsa Jay]

It took me a few minutes of debate to decide if I wanted to share the Roleblock-Enabler part of my role or just claim pure BG. I decided on the Redacted thing instead as a compromise.

[Crescent]

Wait rolestopper here isn't the role I even thought it was I just checked the wiki now.

That power has had multiple names where I come from but not rolestopper. Rolestopper quite literally is a one use permanent roleblock on the player. It's very rarely been used.

[Elsa Jay]

Rolestopper here just Roleblocks anybody who targets the specific player who was Rolestopped. It doesn't actually Roleblock the targeted person here.

[Crescent]

I noticed that when I actually wikied it yes. There is no set name for that specific power that I am used to seeing.

[Corwinoid]

gibus has a point that the enabled role doesn't have to exist, but how in the hell is this balanced if that's the case? And I think we're in serious trouble of getting into outguess-the-mod territory here.

@gibus, do you think Elsa's town?