Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Crescent]

Basically, a rolestopper would make both parts of a "doctor checker" completely useless.

[Corwinoid]

Oh I was only looking at page 2 of your ISO earlier and it's at the bottom of page 1. I didn't realize you even had day 3 posts there yay I got lazy.

...A town PR that dies upon use that enables a scum PR that can stop it from killing itself? I never even considered the possibility of a town role that could enable a scum role. Seems weird.

And Gibus is claiming he wasn't RBed with his check late night, but that kinda doesn't make sense, but..

If he's town, him protecting me would've been easily predictable and scum could've just shot around him without blocking him. This would imply scum essentially electing not to RB at all, which is possible.

Huh, something to think about again.

Put aside your hate for a moment...

The opposing team enabling a role is used to offset the winning side's advantage from landsliding, especially town enabling scum. I don't actually know how *common* that is, but that's it's purpose.

The question of him protecting you and it's predictability is exactly why I asked him if he crumbed it at all during the day. Unfortunately that question got flooded off...

[Not_Mafia]

I noticed that when I actually wikied it yes. There is no set name for that specific power that I am used to seeing.

Vanillaiser

[Crescent]

I noticed that when I actually wikied it yes. There is no set name for that specific power that I am used to seeing.

Vanillaiser

This isn't what rolestopper is here, though.

[Not_Mafia]

It's functionally the same

[Crescent]

Gibus was calling me "near-conf" town. That's a pretty strong crumb.

[Crescent]

Uh, no? Vanillizer permanently roleblocks a target for the rest of the game.

Rolestopper here prevents the target from being targeted that night by anyone else. It does not stop them from acting.

They're completely different roles.

[Corwinoid]

Gibus was calling me "near-conf" town. That's a pretty strong crumb.

Even so, I legitimately didn't see you as the NK target anyway. I'm actually a little confused why both of them did.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm talking about your homesite rolestopper you churl

[gibus]

gibus has a point that the enabled role doesn't have to exist, but how in the hell is this balanced if that's the case? And I think we're in serious trouble of getting into outguess-the-mod territory here.

@gibus, do you think Elsa's town?

Nope. I was meaning to say her claim makes lesser sense since a roleblocker may not even exist

[gibus]

Gibus was calling me "near-conf" town. That's a pretty strong crumb.

This is wifom for scum actually.
The 3 of you were all likely targets.

[Corwinoid]

Which three?

[gibus]

Cres, Alex, Eira.
Preferably Eira

[Crescent]

I'm talking about your homesite rolestopper you churl

And I'm saying what you people call "rolestopper" has no name there.

[gibus]

Although in elsa's defense, scum!she could have just claimed rolestopper-enabler?
I'm back to being confused.

[Crescent]

Although in elsa's defense, scum!she could have just claimed rolestopper-enabler?
I'm back to being confused.

Oh I see you got there eventually.

I was kinda waiting to see if anyone tried to use this argument against her before I said anything about that rather gaping hole.

[gibus]

It's possible that there is no mafia roleblocker/rolestopper at all, and she claimed rb-enabler since there was no mention of rolestoppers yesterday

[gibus]

What are all the possible modifiers that interfere with checks

[Crescent]

Cursory summary:

Elsa's initial claim came 26 minutes after Gibus, it was her next post, and it was in response to Alex voting her.

No one other than Gibus, Alex, and I were posting at the time. It's not what I'd call a

significant

amount of time to come up with a plan that extended into day 3 just to mess with Gibus more when Gibus already looked not-great.

I believe her entire claim would've had to be planned out beforehand in the 26 minutes between yours and hers. Her reaction to my immediate assumption she was claiming she enabled a town role fits the claim she ultimately made.

[gibus]

BBT had a 1-shot rolestopper.
There's no guarantee scum even has a checker notifying modifier.

[gibus]

Cursory summary:

Elsa's initial claim came 26 minutes after Gibus, it was her next post, and it was in response to Alex voting her.

No one other than Gibus, Alex, and I were posting at the time. It's not what I'd call a

significant

amount of time to come up with a plan that extended into day 3 just to mess with Gibus more when Gibus already looked not-great.

I believe her entire claim would've had to be planned out beforehand in the 26 minutes between yours and hers. Her reaction to my immediate assumption she was claiming she enabled a town role fits the claim she ultimately made.

You should be concerned about how she urged me to give a name to double protect in the night, only to target somewhere else.

[Crescent]

BBT had a 1-shot rolestopper.
There's no guarantee scum even has a checker notifying modifier.

To be fair there's no guarantee you're not scum checker got 'em.

But in an actually serious response, I feel like I just completely failed to absorb into memory what the Jack was capable of and that's weird.

The way that power interacts with your claim is to effectively roleblock it, but save the target anyway. Kinda weird.

Also, normal guidelines say rolestopper cannot block strongman, but the flip says

all

actions. Would "all" include a strongman?

[Elsa Jay]

Eh. Strongman just goes through anything. It takes priority.

[Crescent]

Then it's not "all" actions. I want clarification.

[Elsa Jay]

That IS the clarification. The mods just don't make every role PM go "except Strongman" or "Minus Ninja" because it's common sense I guess?