Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER

[inutile]

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Inutile,

hmhm

[inutile]

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Inutile,

hmhm

it's like, hm

like multiple people voting me at that point

hmhm

[inutile]

idk this is very reminiscent of how I played scum when I first started playing mafia. i'm not going to tunnel on him but i do feel it's suspect

i have played a good bit of mafia at this point; >50 games on this site so far

also it/she please

[inutile]

@mod

Vote Count 1.2

Nuclear Gandhi (3): Eiralox, Greeting, Frogsterking
inutile (2): DeltaWave, Nuclear Gandhi
DeltaWave (2): furtiveglance, BlueBloodedToffee
furtiveglance (1): Ausuka

Not Voting: Juice, inutile, Mohab500, hoppip, hutmeil

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to forcibly remove a player.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-28 15:00:00)

mohab500 voted me in 92:

Vote: Inutile

I am just on the wagon,

[inutile]

I have my reasons. No one's going to vote Mohab. Ghandi is still blatant scum. looking for the partners.

Do you want to share those reasons? Or at least invent some?

Im not sharing. And i'm starting to think you and ghandi are together. I don't like toffee's entrance or wrong read on frogster but I can still sort of see town there. But you? Toffee's defense of Ghandi is blatant, yours isn't and that wearies me.

hm,

because the votes? or is your main reasoning the passive defense?

[inutile]

@

a lot of players

It's Gandhi not Ghandi.

(also it's inutile not intuile +)

[inutile]

because the votes? or is your main reasoning the passive defense?

hutmeil votes furtiveglance (62)
deltawave votes inutile (67)
hoppip unvotes (68)
nuclear gandhi votes inutile (85)
mohab500 votes inutile (92)
ausuka unvotes (95)
eiralox votes nuclear gandhi (100)
greeting votes nuclear gandhi (105)
frogsterking votes nuclear gandhi (109)

furtiveglance votes deltawave (113)

ausuka votes furtiveglance (121)
hutmeil unvotes (132)
bluebloodedtoffee votes deltawave (134)
juice votes nuclear gandhi (185)

[Mohab500]

Vote Ghandi

get rid of this dude lmao

[Mohab500]

don't miss my vote this time

[Mohab500]

Ok so reads list:

Juice: sus
BlueBloodedToffee: sus
DeltaWave: sus af
furitiveking: sus af
furitiveglance: sus
greeting: susy
hutmeil: town af
Asuka: sus
hoppip: sus
Eiralox: town probably
inutile: neutral
mohab500: ?
Nuclear ghandi: town af

[Mohab500]

Vote Ghandi

get rid of this dude lmao

VOTE: Ghandi just so its not missed lmao

[furtiveglance]

I should really open with "Man's town" more often then HUH

Ok so reads list:

Juice: sus
BlueBloodedToffee: sus
DeltaWave: sus af
furitiveking: sus af
furitiveglance: sus
greeting: susy
hutmeil: town af
Asuka: sus
hoppip: sus
Eiralox: town probably
inutile: neutral
mohab500: ?
Nuclear ghandi: town af

What an honour to be labelled 'sus' rather than 'sus af'.

[Ausuka]

mohab are you just going to be doing this all game or

[Mohab500]

Alright, I'll try to be more serious if other people are going to be taking this game seriously. I will need a bit to properly catch up though, as a lot of stuff has been said and I honestly already lost track of what's going on/what's being said.

That being said, I also wanna ask about this:

Bonsoir i be Eiralox and im here for the synth apocalypse.

Frogster and Mohab are lock town, we won't be voting there.

VOTE: Nuclear Ghandi

this is scum. guillotine asap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGAk07qgf8

I guess this is the only post I really looked into as it's the one that concerns me, but in the same vein I am confused why you came to these conclusions. I want to hear some elaboration to the lock towns and the confident scum accusation if that's possible.

[Eiralox]

I'll elaborate on you and frogster when I feel it's right. If you want to know why ghandi, well you seem to trust me enough to vote there. I'm not gonna write a paragraph here, and I'll give gandhi time to defend themselves before I make my final case. My vote stays.

[Mohab500]

UNVOTE:

[Eiralox]

cool cool we got time

my first mini this decade VOTE: Gandhi

why are you voting gandhi?

[Juice]

just a random vote - just looked at the player list and voted during RVS.

[Eiralox]

No other thoughts on anyone else Juice?

[DeltaWave]

I see a lot of talk about

DeltaWave

and they're definitely in the PoE for me. The ISO is quite shallow, when at this point there's more than enough content to make deeper reads. Not going to lie,

intuile

is probably my strongest townlean for now, and the fact that this is the player

DeltaWave

has been so focused in this game makes him look worse in my eyes.

I suppose I agree with him that

hoppip

is sus, and

Ausuka

is town, but my gut tells me that something's not right here.

i'm actually interested in hearing from the sideliners since this has mostly been the same few active people talking

I'd be actually very much interested in hearing more from you.

that's a fallacy that even very seasoned mafia players make, so i'll call it a null for you. specifically, I'm referring to the idea that if you think Player A is town and Player B votes for Player A then Player B is likely mafia. makes assumptions that aren't true, and day 1 usually consists of town primarily going at each other while mafia eggs it on or hides. but like I said, even people who have played many many games make this mistake so I will call it a null for you.

i'm standing by my position that inutile is sus and i really don't care that it's making people scumread me. i'm not going to back off what i think is my best read right now because it's unpopular or it might get me eliminated. clearly, an inutile elimination is not going to happen right now based on how people are reading her but i don't operate on consensus like that. i truly do not understand why people see inutile as town. as i said before, if there's evidence that she always plays this way (even as town) then my tune might change but to date, nobody has done so unless I somehow missed it. you can think i'm mafia all you want but i would have picked a safer bet than this if that was the case. if you really think that mafia will wagon popular players instead of killing them at night i dont know what to tell you.

the hubbub around ghandi is interesting and i don't know what to make of it right now. people took very strong opinions about the player right off the bat and i can't understand why that would be the case. it would be interesting to revisit those interactions once we see some flips.

as for other reads.

asuka strikes me as town.
furtiveglance also strikes me as town. although his vote against me is wrong, the rationale seems towny.
bbt, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who wanted to piggyback off furtive's reasoning to join a relatively uncontroversial wagon that coincidentally targets the main person campaigning against inutile.
hoppip is neutral, leaning town. the rationale for sussing me wasn't great but is the kind of rationale i could expect from townspeople.
nuclear g - again, not sure what to make of this player since i just don't have a read on them and i'm confused as to why this is the biggest wagon rn. i'm not saying it's wrong, just don't know if it's right
juice, hut, miralax, and mohab all fall into the same category for me, which are low activity lurkers. there is ALWAYS scum in this group on d1. i wouldn't be surprised if juice is scum who is letting us slug it out. only two posts and still maintaining an RVS vote when we're nine pages in.

i wouldn't be terribly surprised if it's inutile/juice/bbt, assuming a standard 10:3 split.

[Frogsterking]

Mohab, can you please elaborate on your town read of Delta?

[Frogsterking]

Delta, are you still RVS voting?

[DeltaWave]

Delta, are you still RVS voting?

i never RVS.

[Frogsterking]

Delta, are you still RVS voting?

i never RVS.

Okay: inutile isn't going through today. You said you scum read juice and BBT, so of those two, who do you prefer to lim D1?

[DeltaWave]

Delta, are you still RVS voting?

i never RVS.

Okay: inutile isn't going through today. You said you scum read juice and BBT, so of those two, who do you prefer to lim D1?

well you never know but you are most likely right, inutile is not going to be eliminated today. i'd like to hear more from juice before i decide. BBT has also been somewhat absent, mostly just throwing a vote out there and hanging back. bbt's read list also looks incredibly "safe" and non-controversial.