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[KittyTacky]

I decided their effort is genuine.

[Porkens]

Hahah, see? Town.

[Galron]

Njac coming back at me a bit was kind of townie.

I've really soured on geraintm being town.

VOTE: gera

[Greeting]

Votecount 2.6

Imany - Don't Be So Shy (Filatov & Karas Remix)

(2015)

Commentary: This song was a hit in Europe so the Americans might not have heard it before.

NJAC

(3): ProfessorDrapion, Shiidaji, Porkens

geraintm

(2): MalcolmTucker, Galron

Porkens

(2): Salsabil Faria, KittyTacky

MalcolmTucker

(1): geraintm

KittyTacky

(1): NJAC

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-09-28 19:17:00).

[MalcolmTucker]

To varying degrees I'd be happy with any of Ger, Galron or Porkens going today, roughly in that order. If the town consolidates on one of them I will change my vote if others are sticking to vanity wagons. That is not fence-sitting at all.

What happened with your case on Kitty? Did you change your mind on that slot?

Also, what do you think about Galron's softclaim?

Forgot about Kitty here but not opposed to an elimination on them. I think it's likely there's one scum in Kitty/Galron for sure. Doesn't seem to be a lot of pressure indicating anyone wants to vote out Kitty right now though.

Can you link me to the softclaim? I constantly miss crumbs when they're thrown.

680

Also, if you think Kitty deserves votes, even if there's not much pressure yet, you should insist. You could start the pressure.

I've said I have other preferred eliminations though, hence why I've not been as vocal about the slot. Been a lot of players looking scummy.

[MalcolmTucker]

Njac coming back at me a bit was kind of townie.

I've really soured on geraintm being town.

VOTE: gera

I'm increasingly feeling like Ger's slot needs resolved either way here.

Their approach from the start has been blatantly anti-town, they're sitting on a wagon that isn't going to pass and again refuse to compromise for the 2nd turn in a row, and they're basically doing nothing to actually solve while deciding which eliminations they'd rather veto anyway. This is all scummy and even if it's NAI for Ger, there's no reason it can't come from the slot as scum. None of their play here is inherently helpful for town.

[MalcolmTucker]

To varying degrees I'd be happy with any of Ger, Galron or Porkens going today, roughly in that order. If the town consolidates on one of them I will change my vote if others are sticking to vanity wagons. That is not fence-sitting at all.

What happened with your case on Kitty? Did you change your mind on that slot?

Also, what do you think about Galron's softclaim?

Forgot about Kitty here but not opposed to an elimination on them. I think it's likely there's one scum in Kitty/Galron for sure. Doesn't seem to be a lot of pressure indicating anyone wants to vote out Kitty right now though.

Can you link me to the softclaim? I constantly miss crumbs when they're thrown.

680

Also, if you think Kitty deserves votes, even if there's not much pressure yet, you should insist. You could start the pressure.

I've said I have other preferred eliminations though, hence why I've not been as vocal about the slot. Been a lot of players looking scummy.

I should add - if Ger comes back town then I think that'd solidify a scumread on Kitty. They've been protective of Ger's slot largely based on meta, conveniently allowing them to ignore Ger's actual play. I've seen Kitty in the past simply push players for looking scummy even if gameplay suggests they're more likely town which gives me a sense there's legs in a partnership here. But Ger is more likely to be eliminated this turn and I think is the better elimination.

[MalcolmTucker]

*if Ger comes back scum sorry

[geraintm]

i said repeatedly i would love to be solved. i dont think killing me is the way to do it though

[geraintm]

i have ruled out a slot today, because if they thought they saw a crumbed claim or whatever and decided to not eliminate me last night, then i have them as strong town. that is my logic

[geraintm]

being pushed by someone because i am focused on one slot and don't want to go elsehwere..well i can't really do much about that because the person pushing me is the person i have as scum when i know i would flip green.
they helpfully dont mention that the wagon i am sitting on is them

[Salsabil Faria]

I decided their effort is genuine.

@Porkens

, are you talking about

Kitty

? If so, can you explain what changed from scumread them to townread them?

I'm at work I will look at njac's iso tonight. They really haven't gotten any pressure that I can recall. I don't see remember any conclusions being drawn from answers to questions they've asked. Like possible scum busy work.

Njac coming back at me a bit was kind of townie.

I've really soured on geraintm being town.

VOTE: gera

Hmm... what exactly

NJAC

did to change your read on them,

@Galron

?

Pretty sure it’s NJAC/Suji or whatever their name is

Their name is

Shiidaji

.

Spoiler: Fun Fact

In Bangla, we call

semolina

as Suji

I think they are a difference check but not sure whom their partner is.


Pretty confident Porkens and Malcolm are town.

I'm not sure about

Porkens

at all, can you explain your reasoning for them kindly,

@Professor

?

Vote: NJAC

Please state your case on me, as detailed as possible.

I voted you to get some reaction to it from you and potentially others to better my reads. I also enjoy performing my civic duty!! Suprisingly Porkens summarized my general feelings more succinctly than I could below:

NJACs ISO is basically 3 things:

1. Do you think XYZ is town? Why?
2. What is your case on XYZ?
3. You didn’t respond to 123, please go back and respond.

This is quintessential scum fluffing. It looks like activity, but it’s not. It looks like it contributes, but it doesn’t. It’s scum playing facilitator.

VOTE: NJAC

Does this fall in line with a Porkens-NJAC scumteam still existing? Not sure Potentially porkens realizing they need to start dissociating from NJAC after few associative tells.

About last line... yeah, I can see that.

I feel this is the right decision today:

VOTE: Kitty

Yeah... no!

I think Kitty is town.

Here’s where I’m at Salsa has a high chance on being wolf but here is the funny thing.

Kitty can only be a wolf with two players that I can see, Guav and Salsa.
I know I said I think Guav is town but the threadstate says they can be a wolf just must be with Kitty/Guav so to clarify.

Guav/Kitty are town unless wolves together or one with Salsa.

So that’s why I think it’s just more probably you are a wolf.

Spoiler: Kidding!

Welcome to the

Salsa will be always scum no matter what

group

i have ruled out a slot today, because if they thought they saw a crumbed claim or whatever and decided to not eliminate me last night, then i have them as strong town. that is my logic

Why scum!them can't keep you alive to frame town!you with

Crescent

nk,

@geraintm

?

[NJAC]

Yeah well, I'm not following your logic.

Ok.
Well I have my own ways of figuring stuff out.

You keep repeating that but I fail to see any sensible reasoning to support what you say.

[NJAC]

I'm town.

Okay, I'm intrigued now, you have repeated this many times, why are you town?

[NJAC]

@Salsa: why are you against voting Kitty?

[Salsabil Faria]

@Salsa: why are you against voting Kitty?

Said it in this post: 1115

[NJAC]

Okay, so basically gut. I think you should join me on this wagon.

[geraintm]

Why scum!them can't keep you alive to frame town!you with Crescent nk, @geraintm?

thats true.
but i dont think scum would have brought it up today if that was the case.
you dont set them up like that, and then let your target have an out.

so i am very definitely ruling them out of part of the scum team.

[MalcolmTucker]

being pushed by someone because i am focused on one slot and don't want to go elsehwere..well i can't really do much about that because the person pushing me is the person i have as scum when i know i would flip green.
they helpfully dont mention that the wagon i am sitting on is them

But your wagon on me is going nowhere. You've barely even pushed me or tried to get the wagon to do anything beyond sitting on it. Your case on me, again, is basically you didn't like me agreeing with you once early on in the game because you thought it was brownnosing. You decided I was scum about 4 posts in and haven't rethought that at all since.

Do you accept it's not in any way pro-town to sit on a wagon which won't pass for the 2nd day in a row unless you show a willingness to compromise? Who would you consider voting for that might actually be eliminated?

[Galron]

i have ruled out a slot today, because if they thought they saw a crumbed claim or whatever and decided to not eliminate me last night, then i have them as strong town. that is my logic

being pushed by someone because i am focused on one slot and don't want to go elsehwere..well i can't really do much about that because the person pushing me is the person i have as scum when i know i would flip green.
they helpfully dont mention that the wagon i am sitting on is them

These are just so vague that I can't make anything of them. Why won't you use names and specifics?

[Galron]

Hmm... what exactly NJAC did to change your read on them, @Galron?

It hasn't changed so much as they're bouncing from town to null and back and forth. I had some doubts yesterday morning but going through their iso and seeing them push back against people seems I guess not super townie but at the least not scummy.

I'd like to know the Prof's case though. He seems to be darting around it.

[geraintm]

i have ruled out a slot today, because if they thought they saw a crumbed claim or whatever and decided to not eliminate me last night, then i have them as strong town. that is my logic

being pushed by someone because i am focused on one slot and don't want to go elsehwere..well i can't really do much about that because the person pushing me is the person i have as scum when i know i would flip green.
they helpfully dont mention that the wagon i am sitting on is them

These are just so vague that I can't make anything of them. Why won't you use names and specifics?

Porkens is the person i town read because they think they saw a softclaim from me and let me live.

Malcolm is the person who is pushing me who i think is scum.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'll try to come back before deadline but I'll be busy, so no promises.

VOTE: geraintm

E-2

[Porkens]

Salsa, my read on kitty changed based on their reactions in the last couple pages. They read town to me. I see them in a town light now.

Strongly prefer NJAC. Ger why are you not on NJAC?

[geraintm]

Ger why are you not on NJAC?

i havent really looked at them much, they havent pinged me over the last few days so havent looked.