hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

I mean this might have been a scum slot after all

So because I'm voting you I'm automatically mafia?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

what day is this

also i figured this out from the last votecount on my own, it day 1. some of the conversation i saw seemed to imply there was a night phase so I was confused.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

[Big Chungus Gaming]

could the people pushing fennec please explain why you're pushing the slot? with quotes, preferably. I am not seeing the reason at all.

[Frogsterking]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

You're wasting your time and ours building all your reads around a scum!Frog flip which isn't going to happen. You can see I'm unlikely to be scum from activity alone. I don't consider these bad preflip associative takes to be game advancing content.

[Frogsterking]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

You're wasting your time and ours building all your reads around a scum!Frog flip which isn't going to happen. You can see I'm unlikely to be scum from activity alone. I don't consider these bad preflip associative takes to be game advancing content.

The first problem being that I'm not scum, the second being that it isn't really likely that I would be scum FYPOV, the third being that I'm probably not going to get flipped this game, and the fourth and final problem is that there's not a lot of reason to believe there is any meaningful connection between malcolm and I based on what you quoted.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

You're wasting your time and ours building all your reads around a scum!Frog flip which isn't going to happen. You can see I'm unlikely to be scum from activity alone. I don't consider these bad preflip associative takes to be game advancing content.

The first problem being that I'm not scum, the second being that it isn't really likely that I would be scum FYPOV, the third being that I'm probably not going to get flipped this game, and the fourth and final problem is that there's not a lot of reason to believe there is any meaningful connection between malcolm and I based on what you quoted.

ok we can test that by putting majority votes on you and see how hard it is to kill your slot then
who is mafia in your view?

[Frogsterking]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

You're wasting your time and ours building all your reads around a scum!Frog flip which isn't going to happen. You can see I'm unlikely to be scum from activity alone. I don't consider these bad preflip associative takes to be game advancing content.

The first problem being that I'm not scum, the second being that it isn't really likely that I would be scum FYPOV, the third being that I'm probably not going to get flipped this game, and the fourth and final problem is that there's not a lot of reason to believe there is any meaningful connection between malcolm and I based on what you quoted.

ok we can test that by putting majority votes on you and see how hard it is to kill your slot then
who is mafia in your view?

Does it matter or are you just a troll alt?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

I think Fennec vs Frog is TvT. Fennec very much feels like they're thinking out loud in the thread in a townie way, while I find Frog's play can be quite erratic but engaged when they are town. I'm not particularly seeing strong scum motivation from either of them at the moment.

on a frogs wolf flip, this is almost certainly a partner

You're wasting your time and ours building all your reads around a scum!Frog flip which isn't going to happen. You can see I'm unlikely to be scum from activity alone. I don't consider these bad preflip associative takes to be game advancing content.

The first problem being that I'm not scum, the second being that it isn't really likely that I would be scum FYPOV, the third being that I'm probably not going to get flipped this game, and the fourth and final problem is that there's not a lot of reason to believe there is any meaningful connection between malcolm and I based on what you quoted.

ok we can test that by putting majority votes on you and see how hard it is to kill your slot then
who is mafia in your view?

Does it matter or are you just a troll alt?

Who's mafia?

[Frogsterking]

Does it matter or are you just a troll alt?

I'm not really inclined to help you based on your awful takes so far. This isn't the newbie queue and you're a troll alt so I'm not Townreading you for dumb telling. I can see Crescent quitting after a scum roll, they don't have any courage.

[Frogsterking]

I'm down to policy Big Chungus after a couple maf flips.

[Nero Cain]

Why not now?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

I'm down to policy Big Chungus after a couple maf flips.

so chaining you into malcom will work? good to know.

[Big Chungus Gaming]

real talk - if you're town frog, the best way for us to find eachother is for you not to be obtuse and have a honest heart to heart with me. what are you working with right now? who do you trust the most? who should i look at with more scrutiny?

[Big Chungus Gaming]

signed, Big Gaming chungus

[Frogsterking]

Why not now?

I feel optimistic about MariaR and Greeting flipping scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Maria

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[Frogsterking]

Town:

Gamma
Kitty
Marci
Cape
Sirrhet
Charloux
Fennec

Null:
Nero


Scum:

MariaR

Updated 4 Big Chungus

Greeting, Pooky, Dragons and Big Chungus are a bit dodgy but I'll need to think about where they go. I think I scraped one more Townread together but I can't remember where it came from.

[Frogsterking]

Town:

Gamma
Kitty
Marci
Cape
Sirrhet
Charloux
Fennec

Null:
Nero

Scum:

MariaR
Greeting,
Pooky,
Dragons and
Big Chungus

???:
Toogle
Malcolm

Updated 4 Big Chungus

Greeting, Pooky, Dragons and Big Chungus are a bit dodgy but I'll need to think about where they go. I think I scraped one more Townread together but I can't remember where it came from.

4 cross reference where I probably need help the most:

VOTE: pooky RVS it's a stuffed bear how can it talk

I may or may not post my survey start

__

Players I can read well:

Gamma Emerald
Nero Cain
Greeting
KittyTacky
Crescent
PookyTheMagicalBear

Players I can't read well:

Toogeloo
MalcolmTucker

Players I don't know or it remains to be determined how well I can read:

Fennec
Charloux
MariaR
Cape90
SirRhett
Save The Dragons
marcistar

[Big Chungus Gaming]

VOTE: Maria

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

squints

Spoiler:

2 bears

[Nero Cain]

Toog is a tire panda

[Greeting]

Frogsterking

does not get a townread for me in this game. Normally when he's town, he's daring and wouldn't hesitate to make pushes on players he think's are scum. He's been scumreadng me since at least 212, and yet he is not building a case on me at all. Probably just wants to incline town to get rid of me.

First, the argument is that I'm not posting enough. Quoted post for reference.

Press X to doubt

On my statement or on Greeting's alignment?

Kinda both, mostly the latter
I don’t sense a notable difference from the game I modded rn in Greeting’s play.

Three of town!Greeting's contributions by this point in time from the game you modded:

Catching up, I am happy to announce that both

intuile

and

Ausuka

are probably town.

Frogsterking

less likely town than the other two, but still I think more likely town than scum.

Consensus (or close to consensus) reads I have:

Frogsterking, Ausuka, Inutile,

Hoppip

Town

What's so towny about

hoppip

?

I'd also like Greeting to elaborate on their reads I guess

I have played with

Frogsterking

before. He likes to troll around, and, in my experience, tone-wise, he usually falls into the category "too scummy to be scum". It's a meta read from experience, because not knowing that, his ISO is very confusing.

Still, there is a more obvious sign pointing to him being town: I completely agree with his reads from 41, and he was the first one in the thread to make this observation actually. Some of his later reads are admittedly a bit hurried, and shaky (such as 137), but to be fair this overall sounds like town!

Frog

actively sorting rather than scum!

Frog

throwing random reads around. Maybe if he expands more on his reads, the townread will get more firm, but I'm happy to give him a townlean for now.

People don't tend to take him seriously because of the way he posts, but

Frogsterking

can be a pretty capable player if he wants to be.

@

Ausuka

The read on

intuile

/shiki is more of a tone/meta read too. I've played with

intuile

's other alts and she also played in a game I hosted. To be fair, if someone has so many alts, they could just play in a different way on each alt and no one would notice.

Intuile

tends to play the exact same way tone-wise when she's town, and this game is no different. Her interactions with you sounds like town!

intuile

sorting and your responses sound like a townie defending himself.

This is a pretty standard game opener for this site, I didn't really have anything to say to you because nothing you said was alignment indicative, sorry for ignoring you

yeah your opener pretty paint by numbers but you're aware so

like

vote someone
say something about someone else in same post
encourage engagement
make an early read!!

I don't think it would be typical of scum to try to make a read out of this, but in my mind it reads as typical of town!

intuile

to try to make a read out of you being friendly in your opening post (5).

She actually said herself what she does in mafia games, and I confirm that in my experience it's true:

but not alignment related, so! more a wondering aloud

Tl;dr: your interaction with

intuile

looks like town vs. town, and shiki is just being herself.

As for strictly you, I would say that your tone reads as towny in general, but I would say that my townread of

intuile

is stronger than my townread of you, as there is significantly less content and active scumhunting in your posts.

The reason for me not having posted reads within the first, what, 48 hours of the game were RL reasons, but once that was over I got to game solving.

Now the argument is that my reads are made up.

After reviewing the thread (which is very easy to do due to the lack of bloat) I've decided I don't feel comfortable tunneling on Fennec and Fennec should probably be a Town lean despite Greeting's point. I also want to point out that Greeting's play is closely aligned with their scum meta rather than their Town meta.

I mentioned earlier that scum!Greeting was capable of forging Town tells for the latter half of D1 and overall I suspect that's what they're up to with this Fennec push.

I think MariaR is the best place to go and I'm fine with someone hammering there if a flash wagon occurs.

Honestly, his early interaction with the

Fennec

slot were terrible and not something I would expect from town!

Frogsterking

.

I am down to yeet out

Frogsterking

today too.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

https://youtu.be/MfVlDf6iFss?t=175