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[Titus]

I wonder if Titus is vig neighbor with CSF, and Nero and HEM pulled a thing where HEM claimed Nero's vig shot, but now with Masons outed Titus is thinking her neighbor is probably scum

Scum vig, in any circumstance, is verboten in normals.

[fireisredsir]

i haven't gone back to read fire's case yet but my big hangup there is that gamma was doing a thing where he was voting frog while fosing obscure and it seemed unlikely he'd just be bussing both partners in that fashion

yea i remember thinking that felt not S/S/S but like... idk it's probably not out of range for gamma to pull that as scum in an attempted wifom. i dunno if i want to rule them out as a team just off that when a lot of other things make it seem likely

p sure i do remember a certain someone saying that gamma had a bad habit of bussing her whole team as scum

that could be false but i don't want to try to fact check rn

[Titus]

DeasVail (6): fireisredsir, Ausuka, marcistar, Frogsterking, Enchant, obscure
obscure (5): GuiltyLion, Datisi, Nero Cain, scamper, Dannflor
humaneatingmonkey (2): Ydrasse, Gamma Emerald
Thestatusquo (1): humaneatingmonkey
fireisredsir (1): Thestatusquo
Morning Tweet (1): DeasVail
Not voting (1): Something_Smart
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-09-18 20:44:00). With 17 alive it takes 9 to eliminate.

[GuiltyLion]

didn't somebody forget at some point that HEM had claimed a confirmable vig shot

I wonder if I can go find that again

[Titus]

I think I can go for a Menalque + CSF team if we can townread DV based on the end of day where Morning got flipped.

[Titus]

Also CSF has like no substantive Enchant mentions.

[fireisredsir]

I think I can go for a Menalque + CSF team if we can townread DV based on the end of day where Morning got flipped.

i think i do

[scamper]

i haven't gone back to read fire's case yet but my big hangup there is that gamma was doing a thing where he was voting frog while fosing obscure and it seemed unlikely he'd just be bussing both partners in that fashion

yea i remember thinking that felt not S/S/S but like... idk it's probably not out of range for gamma to pull that as scum in an attempted wifom. i dunno if i want to rule them out as a team just off that when a lot of other things make it seem likely

p sure i do remember a certain someone saying that gamma had a bad habit of bussing her whole team as scum

that could be false but i don't want to try to fact check rn

i took a look at lost and it was p conclusively not true there and he tried defending teammates a fair deal there unless they were getting significant pressure in which case he'd bus (which would make that hem vote everyone rightly called gamma out on Notable). that is probably somewhat complicated by it being a hydra but idk not worth spending too much time trying to sort that out

ofc this gets a wrench thrown in the works if csf is scum

[Dannflor]

How did everyone know csf was an even night vig?

[GuiltyLion]

gah does anyone remember this or am I just making it up? I feel like somebody at some point threw shade at CSF or had her in their scumreads, and then someone else was like "uhhh did you forget her claim" and then it was dropped and I want to find that and reread it in light of potential scum!CSF, but I don't remember who it was or when it happened and have no idea how to trawl through the thread to find it, especially since my memory of it is so vague

does anybody remember the thing I'm talking about

p-edit: oh maybe it was that

[fireisredsir]

yea nero had csf as top scum recently

[Dannflor]

Ausuka
Dannflor
Menalque
fireisredsir
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Datisi
Thestatusquo
Frogsterking
scamper
GuiltyLion
DeasVail
Cat Scratch Fever

if you are referring to this fire

Nero clarified that his reads list was reversed lol

[GuiltyLion]

no I don't think it was either of these posts that I'm thinking of, but it's possible I'm just inventing a false memory of something that didn't happen

[Titus]

We need CSF here to double down on his claim and put out his reads list.

If CSF doubles down, we let bullets do the talking and eliminate Menalque.

[Titus]

Ausuka
Dannflor
Menalque
fireisredsir
------------------------
Datisi
Thestatusquo
Frogsterking
scamper
GuiltyLion
DeasVail
Cat Scratch Fever

if you are referring to this fire

Nero clarified that his reads list was reversed lol

Nero was likely playing dumbass to survive lol. His reads are horrible.

[fireisredsir]

Ausuka
Dannflor
Menalque
fireisredsir
------------------------
Datisi
Thestatusquo
Frogsterking
scamper
GuiltyLion
DeasVail
Cat Scratch Fever

if you are referring to this fire

Nero clarified that his reads list was reversed lol

oh lmao i missed that

[Titus]

Menalque, Shea, CSF is my final answer.

[Dannflor]

I do feel deep down S_S might be town

even though I have them listed at the bottom of my PoE

part of it is that I've been fooled by them so many times before because they play rather unintuitively as scum. but there have been quite a few moments that have given me pause. still I think my skill at reading them is very bad so I've been largely fine with them being a possible lim. Mena is someone who I see flipping scum more often.

but if my gut gut feelings are right then there is at least one more still hiding (and I also don't think they are scum together that seems rlly unlikely) which means I'm open to exploring other optiosn today

but I feel like I need more to latch onto in order to do that and I'm having trouble figuring out where to start with slots like fire or deasvail or whatever

Also like...I cleared CSF because I felt like the reaction to my test when she came in thread was good but she's pretty much done fuck all today and that "Did S_S really just come back in the thread after x!" post with a vote when S_S has posted in this thread a HELL of a lot more than she has makes me wonder if that clear was wrong.

CSF is a confirmed killing role

scum vig does not exist in normals

so either she is a town vig or some sort of gated serial killer? but SS told me to go to tin foil jail for that one

CSF is a confirmed killing role

scum vig does not exist in normals

so either she is a town vig or some sort of gated serial killer? but SS told me to go to tin foil jail for that one

It is midnight and my brain is melting.

You are correct. Just goes to show that theres no reason lurkers have to be scum IG.

[Dannflor]

you're not crazy GL

I just have a terrible memory lol

[Dannflor]

I thought Shea was town slipping originally

[fireisredsir]

i haven't gone back to read fire's case yet but my big hangup there is that gamma was doing a thing where he was voting frog while fosing obscure and it seemed unlikely he'd just be bussing both partners in that fashion

yea i remember thinking that felt not S/S/S but like... idk it's probably not out of range for gamma to pull that as scum in an attempted wifom. i dunno if i want to rule them out as a team just off that when a lot of other things make it seem likely

p sure i do remember a certain someone saying that gamma had a bad habit of bussing her whole team as scum

that could be false but i don't want to try to fact check rn

i took a look at lost and it was p conclusively not true there and he tried defending teammates a fair deal there unless they were getting significant pressure in which case he'd bus (which would make that hem vote everyone rightly called gamma out on Notable). that is probably somewhat complicated by it being a hydra but idk not worth spending too much time trying to sort that out

ofc this gets a wrench thrown in the works if csf is scum

ok went and found it my memory was of this, its prob outdated info atp tho anyway

Spoiler:

I flagged for him that he had a bad habit of putting his entire mafiateam in the scumpile across a good 4/5 games and he proceeded to do it again for another two.

[Datisi]

We need CSF here to double down on his claim and put out his reads list.

If CSF doubles down, we let bullets do the talking and eliminate Menalque.

csf is a she

also at this point might be better to fullclaim but i am Fine waiting for csf

[GuiltyLion]

AH YES THAT WAS IT!

thank you Dann

anyways, I dunno I don't want overreact and put too much stock into it but I think on the whole scum is more likely to forget a buddy's fakeclaim like that and default to shading the slot (especially given the replace out) vs town who would basically bank HEM as town and then remember why they did that

[fireisredsir]

also lmao dann/GL if that was really scum!shea forgetting that scum!csf had a fake vig claim that would be hilarious

[Datisi]

I thought Shea was town slipping originally

...
if csf is scum
then that could really explain the shea/csf talk that went on shortly after she repped in where he was like "csf claim" and then he went "well ok she reacted very quickly, i think she's town"

bruh