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[Shiidaji]

Galron sing to me!!!

[Galron]

Galron sing to me!!!

Do you want a ballad or a rocker?

[Shiidaji]

Catch!!


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WHAT TIME IS IT???

[Shiidaji]

I don't want to sleep I want to feel alive!!!!!

[Salsabil Faria]

[Shiidaji]

ladies and gents please try the cornbread meemaw made

it's free

♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ SALSAAA, OOOH SALSABIIIL ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ PRAY TELL ME, WHY DO YOU FROWWWN? ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ RESPOND TO THE PROFESSOR'S 1441 ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ IIIIF YOUUU ARE TOWWWN ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩

♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ SALSAAA, OOOOH SALSABIIIL ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ LIFT YOUR CHIN, DO A JIG SHAKE IT OOOFFF♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ IF WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE, THE SAME WAGON WE RIDE ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩
♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ IIIIF YOUUU ARE TOWWWN ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩ ♫ ♩

[geraintm]

Jazz hands

[Salsabil Faria]

In elo: {Scum,

Professor

,

Salsabil

}

2 scenarios:

1.

Professor

votes me, I vote scum & scum votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

2.

Scum votes me, I vote scum &

Professor

votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

[ProfessorDrapion]

Then eliminate me today... Scum will definitely take me in elo with

Professor

, and town will confirm lose.

@Shiidaji

,

@geraintm

.... it’s the most logical conclusion for saving town.... please consider it.

See this has been your defence all day today.
“Oh just execute me” “don’t want to deal with me and Drapion”
Really? But you were fine with the Thunderdome.
Instead of defended yourself and talking with me about your action that I find wolfy you play this card?
Ok.

I'm not interested in

talking with you

... Players who play like

literal piece of s***

are harmful for my inner peace... This is the 1st time & will be the last time that I'm playing with you.

That’s pretty rough OML.
Didn’t make you want to feel that way.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I know but think about the bigger picture here... We've 2 useless townies, scum(s) already has/have a big upper hand here for that. May be it sounds like I'm talking like this because of frustration but no, it’s not the case for my appeal here.... It’s purely based on logics.

So, I'm again saying to you (&

@Shiidaji

also) that both of you

should really consider this option

.

“2 useless Townies”
I’m assuming I’m 1 of them who’s the other.

If you Say Porkens you are just a Straight up OMGUG, Discrediting and AtEing all at the same time.

[ProfessorDrapion]

And,

Malcolm

is gone MIA, like wtf! Both of the supposed!scums are lurking... lmao!

I don’t think their activity is NAI that is legit personal thing.
So this post is a reach.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Y’know what’s funny and completely wrong.


If it wasn’t because of me pushing Shii to vote NJAC, scum would be alive to day and be in allot better of position.
So get outta here Salsa with you calling me “useless” lmao.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Well what’s wrong was that Salsa called me “useless” when I’ve been pro town this entire game.

[ProfessorDrapion]

In elo: {Scum,

Professor

,

Salsabil

}

2 scenarios:

1.

Professor

votes me, I vote scum & scum votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

2.

Scum votes me, I vote scum &

Professor

votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

Now you deny the Thunderdome?
Lmao.

Cause “Elo” implies Galron is executed and likely ML’ed.

[Shiidaji]

In elo: {Scum,

Professor

,

Salsabil

}

2 scenarios:

1.

Professor

votes me, I vote scum & scum votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

2.

Scum votes me, I vote scum &

Professor

votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

There's a whole world of other scenarios. PR Drapion might get shot by F3 if it ever gets to that point. We have potential PR actions left to work with before then, plus prof can still technically be scum alol

Basically from a town perspective you shouldn't ever do this. I was thinking you were reaction baiting earlier, but if you're honestly town burying your head asking your TRs to vote you, you gotta fortify mental!!! I was expecting more kickback to Drapion casing you than this.

If it wasn’t because of me pushing Shii to vote NJAC, scum would be alive to day and be in allot better of position.
So get outta here Salsa with you calling me “useless” lmao.

I agree with this Everyone has a different style.

[MalcolmTucker]

And,

Malcolm

is gone MIA, like wtf! Both of the supposed!scums are lurking... lmao!

I had a busy Tuesday/Wednesday, catching up.

[MalcolmTucker]

Sorry it’s been a while, Malcolm, can you articulate your townread on Ger?

I mean it's possible Ger bussed on NJAC I guess but I'm not seeing it. I've likely just been wrong there and they're town.

[MalcolmTucker]

The way I'm seeing it, it’s a town win game for 2 scums (if we have 3 scums or 2 scums + 1 traitor, which I find unlikely, then I'm not sure about winning as a town yet).

But town can still loose this game because of & only for town!

Professor

, scum won't nk them. So either we eliminate

Galron

(high chance of flipping scum imo) or me (because I think scum won't kill me either & take me +

Professor

into elo which will lead into town losing) today.

I mean

Malcolm

's reaction towards my hammer is giving me pause to go against them today (+

Galron

has the higher chance to flip scum than them). Before claiming investigator,

NJAC

could discuss it in the scum pt & scum!

Malcolm

could see it... So even if they were frustrated, they didn’t have to show their frustration in the main thread, ig?

Yeah this is a good reason to TR you and makes me feel better about you probably just being town as well. Scum partners would have been frustrated at that point but didn't want to articulate it.

From my POV as town I'd seen a player who claimed a role and who was then shortly hammered afterwards without prior warning or discussion following said claim. Kitty was similarly aggrieved and was town. Obviously it worked out for us but had NJAC's claim been legit it'd have been a massive misfire.

I'd also argue you can just look at my interactions with NJAC beforehand. I was starting to lean scum there after a reassessment. Given the votes had been tight and I'd been on Ger, there's no need for me to start vigorously scumcasing NJAC if we're paired. Sure, bit of light pressure is fine, but no more than that. My push on Ger was reasonable at the time and if I were scum I'd have probably stood an okay chance at making it through D3 because the read looked (and given I'm town was) genuine.

[MalcolmTucker]

Like as I said look at the interactions.
NJAC spewed Galron town.

Not sure I really agree with you on this.

There's some pressure on Galron but it isn't necessarily all that sustained when you read back. It feels like the sort of light push one scum could make against another teammate. Certainly if you think Galron/NJAC can't be paired I'm not sure why you'd vote for me given I largely changed my mind on NJAC before they claimed.

[MalcolmTucker]

Galron-Malcolm ISO made me feel neutral about them being on a team, I see repeated posts and a constant shift in read on Galron from Malcolm's end. His E-2 Galron votepost in 603 feels very cautious.

On Malcolm's end of Malcolm-NJAC he never really committed to a read on NJAC, and had little dialogue with him until the very end of D2, where he started talking to him in a flurry. 1239 and 1232 specifically are all I can see that defends Malcolm when it comes to intent.

NJACs ISO is basically 3 things:

1. Do you think XYZ is town? Why?
2. What is your case on XYZ?
3. You didn’t respond to 123, please go back and respond.

This is quintessential scum fluffing. It looks like activity, but it’s not. It looks like it contributes, but it doesn’t. It’s scum playing facilitator.

VOTE: NJAC

This is a huge misrep of my play, and I find it very hypocritical coming from a player

whose contribution has been almost null

, and their posts are basically: I'm bad at this and that, that's scummy, etc., without providing much reasoning.

In a very, very mild defence of Porkens, for all their uncertainty and meddling logic I'd argue they've absolutely had reads this turn. The actual logic behind them isn't particularly solid (their read on me has felt fake) but I feel like this post is a bit overly defensive.

Scum malcolm is less likely to undermine their partner's push against porkens imo, they'd be more focused on either drawing more people to the ger wagon, while maybe getting some bussing in.

At this point in the convo VC was like:

NJAC (3): ProfessorDrapion, Shiidaji, Porkens
geraintm (3): MalcolmTucker, Galron, salsa
Kitty (1): NJAC
Porkens (1): , KittyTacky
MalcolmTucker (1): geraintm

Unlike EOD1 though, Malcolm never said anything like this wrt the competing NJAC wagon:

Spoiler: Day1

I won't be around at deadline. I don't really think a no-lim is all that great, even my lim would be better, in my opinion. Scum are already probably on the wagon, so it might take a Townie to push it over, that's sad.

Yeah this seems really townie at this point. But I agree an elimination is better than a no lim for info.

If we're right up to the deadline and we need someone to hammer I will.

But would rather leave that job to someone who actually thinks Wayward is scum here, if another person in such a position is around. The fact this wagon hasn't been pushed over yet is quite interesting.

I'm in the same position as Malcolm.

If necessary will hammer.

Are you planning to do so? I will be headed to bed soon so will do in next 15-20 mins if no reply. I'm fine for whoever wants to take it on.

He kind of just left some pro and anti-NJAC posts loose and then exited the thread with his vote on Ger on EOD2 without implying interest in an NJAC hammer if needed. There was still some time in the day left sure, but I feel like town Malcolm might have been more open to voting NJAC there like he was on a town wagon D1.

I'd argue I was pretty townie on NJAC early on - our interactions in D2 came because I was starting to reassess that read. Look at my progression - I increasingly felt NJAC's responses to Porkens were deflecting from the fact Porkens had called out that he'd not done much.

If I just made a general "NJAC could be scum" post then it'd be fair enough to see it as opportunistic, but I was taking a greater in-depth look at why specifically Porkens' case was actually quite good even though NJAC was trying to dismiss it, looking at NJAC's tendency to ask lots of questions and not really say much. There is no reason for me to do this as scum - I was pushing Ger and could have sat on that wagon. As town when I reevaluate someone I'm not just going to suddenly say they are scum, that changing of my mind is going to be gradual because I'm uninformed and will still be uncertain and have doubt.

[Salsabil Faria]

The way I'm seeing it, it’s a town win game for 2 scums (if we have 3 scums or 2 scums + 1 traitor, which I find unlikely, then I'm not sure about winning as a town yet).

But town can still loose this game because of & only for town!

Professor

, scum won't nk them. So either we eliminate

Galron

(high chance of flipping scum imo) or me (because I think scum won't kill me either & take me +

Professor

into elo which will lead into town losing) today.

I mean

Malcolm

's reaction towards my hammer is giving me pause to go against them today (+

Galron

has the higher chance to flip scum than them). Before claiming investigator,

NJAC

could discuss it in the scum pt & scum!

Malcolm

could see it... So even if they were frustrated, they didn’t have to show their frustration in the main thread, ig?

Yeah this is a good reason to TR you and makes me feel better about you probably just being town as well. Scum partners would have been frustrated at that point but didn't want to articulate it.

From my POV as town I'd seen a player who claimed a role and who was then shortly hammered afterwards without prior warning or discussion following said claim. Kitty was similarly aggrieved and was town. Obviously it worked out for us but had NJAC's claim been legit it'd have been a massive misfire.

I'd also argue you can just look at my interactions with NJAC beforehand. I was starting to lean scum there after a reassessment. Given the votes had been tight and I'd been on Ger, there's no need for me to start vigorously scumcasing NJAC if we're paired. Sure, bit of light pressure is fine, but no more than that. My push on Ger was reasonable at the time and if I were scum I'd have probably stood an okay chance at making it through D3 because the read looked (and given I'm town was) genuine.

I mean, you'll be scum in that scenario if we have 2 scums or 1 scum & 1 traitor left.

Shiidaji

,

geraintm

,

Porkens

&

Professor

all of them are towns, I believe.
For me, it’s between you &

Galron

.... I'm leaning on

Galron

& reasons are already stated.

[Salsabil Faria]

In elo: {Scum,

Professor

,

Salsabil

}

2 scenarios:

1.

Professor

votes me, I vote scum & scum votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

2.

Scum votes me, I vote scum &

Professor

votes me.

Result

:

Scum win

There's a whole world of other scenarios. PR Drapion might get shot by F3 if it ever gets to that point. We have potential PR actions left to work with before then, plus prof can still technically be scum alol

Basically from a town perspective you shouldn't ever do this. I was thinking you were reaction baiting earlier, but if you're honestly town burying your head asking your TRs to vote you, you gotta fortify mental!!! I was expecting more kickback to Drapion casing you than this.

1.

Don't want to engage with

Professor

(if it still not clear that I'm pissed off).

2.

Then we've to agree to disagree. I've experience about this rat-hole situation, so I know what I'm talking about.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Not sure what your pissed off for lmao.

You pissed off you have a wolf read on you? LOL

[Shiidaji]

Vote: Galron

[Shiidaji]

that's E-1 so nobody can claim to be cheeky btw