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[Scoliosis]

The most significant post created over the last 24 hours was 572. In the grand scheme of things that's what I care about.

[Scoliosis]

geraintm [1]: innocentvillager

Geraintm now has two votes and I don't plan on unvoting for probably the rest of d1.

[skitter30]

herta is very stilted as mafia, he doesn't really flow into the thread, it's like the guy at the party who has a drink in his hand but isn't involved in any of the conversations.

freedom is town because when he's scum, his questions are agenda-y and you can sort of see where he's trying to push something - here he's just kind of asking random things and popping in to say things.

unwnd is town because his play is completely perpendicular to his scum play - it is unstructured and freeflowing in a way that I don't think he really enjoys doing in general and especially as scum because chaos is the enemy of making plans.

I would say your description of scum-herta is p much exactly how they're playing this game, so

Don'r really have an opinion on freedom

I don't know if i agree with your unwnd meta either tbh

For me - fair enuf, that is probably a good way to read me

[skitter30]

I feel like you let yourself get talked into that vote a little too easily @unwnd

@unwnd

[skitter30]

Pooky swoops in and takes over

VOTE: scoliosis

This is a p gross vote

[skitter30]

One thing this does remind me of is that I refrained from saying last night that I think geraintm is more likely to be scum if skitter ends up being town.

I think gerantim looks p bad here irregardless of my alignment

[skitter30]

My suggestion if you hammer me is to vote out pooky next because I think they are most likely to be scum.

Don't think this comes from scum ^

[skitter30]

In general there's just a lot of posts that ask questions but never get followed up on, or lots of posts that try to portray some sort of background thought process like "something to note for now" or "there's something else I'm waiting for and need to sit on"

Yes this is exactly why i find them scummy. There's a lot of pop-waffle-y posts with vague opinions that get walk-backed, like within the same post sometimes or as soon as someone disagrees. Their opinions in their rearly posts are getting qualified within the post itself, and as soon as i pushed back on their scumread of me, they dropped the aggro-ness

The tone of 85 made no sense as a response to the question that i asked

There's no progression, or scumhunting. Just statments abt things that aren't material ('pooky taking over the game')

I unvoted cuz i was sitting on the vote for days but it didnt really seem.to be going anywhere so

VOTE: herta

[skitter30]

Why can’t it be s+s or

why can’t pooky be wrong town and unwnd scum pretending to be convinced?

This

[skitter30]

your takes this game feel like the lack the kind of depth and precision I'd expect from you if you're town -

He said he was sick, basically your whole post can be explained by how he was feeling in thr last few days

(Also feel better dann!!)

[skitter30]

Like how the hell you dont think unwnd is naive and gullible and not scum trying to get you killed is beyond me.

I could ask you the same question about pookythebear. The difference is this:

No no I'm fine with playing this out actually and like your perspective (of all fucking things)

VOTE: Scolosis

hyyyyyype

VOTE: scol

It was pookythebear's vote who created the flashwagon, not unwnd. Pookythebear didn't vote me until he saw that unwnd was doing it first. I feel like you fail to understand the significance of this, toto.

They had spent the prior like 10 posts mutually moving towards voting you. I think reading through that sequence is more important than who actually placed tbe vote first, as it explains the leadup/motivations of the vote

They voted within a minute of each other, and i would actuallu characterize this sequence of posts as unwnd following pooky's lead on the wagon, even if unwnd technically voted first

I don't think we can rule out either svs or svt the other way here from that sequence at all.

[skitter30]

If the wagon were to go through on me, unwnd and KT would look worse than Pookythebear, because they were the ones who voted first. The fact that pookythebear waited to switch his vote onto me until after he saw unwnd vote me is a sign that pookythebear knows I will flip town and unwnd doesn't know I will flip town. Also, it's significant in a game of this size for a wagon to move from 2 to 3 votes and this is something that I expect scum to be more prepared to take advantage of than town.

I think the third vote is usually considered the scummy one for getting rhe wagon going, no?

[skitter30]

I know this back-and-forth doesn't need my input but I'm not sure if pooky buries himself on a mislim on you, scol?

Maybe pooks disrespects me that much that he thinks I wouldn't immediately throw his thread credibility out of the window if you're town

Why wouldn't he as scum?
Why would he be throwing his credibility out of the window?

[skitter30]

And it's not just cause he has a scumread, it's just the way he's gone about it. The position he finds himself in. It's not like his slot was being closed in on. This thread had little direction until Pooky came in. T[/b]hat is honestly rare form from him, especially considering the circumstances. I really would like you to debate the prospect of why scum would behave this way. This isn't D4 where Pooky needs to secure a mislim (or get himself out of a bad spot), it's D1 where we know fuck all.

The game was moving towards a scoliosis wagon before pooky repped in, he just accelerated it

[skitter30]

Your immediate response to two or three votes (four counting IC) was pretty much 'oh well town sux you know my reads peace'.

The only reason I unvoted is my unfinished business with Herta and me trying to decide how I feel about your egotism

Are you even town unwnd, or am I just completely off track with you? You've made several awful posts in a row which I could swear look like you're scum egging on Pookythebear and I.

I don't think he's town and i think he's letting pooky lead his pushes rn

[skitter30]

Shut the fuck up Flavor Leaf

Alt outting should be a crime.

Wait really
...

If true this actually changes my read quite a bit
(Also unwnd u shouldnf have said that)

[skitter30]

Fwiw i'm reading them as experienced in mafia but new to ms and is used to a different site meta (and/or possibly an irl player new to forum mafia)

Yeah maybe this is the issue, like the way they interact with everyone is just... huh?

Well not anymore apparently, now he's just resoundingly null

[skitter30]

The most significant post created over the last 24 hours was 572. In the grand scheme of things that's what I care about.

It was a p bad post indeed

[Ydrasse]

unwnd are you bad ;-;

[Ydrasse]

i’m loathe to give the temper tantrum classic (a skill of mine) any towniness but i think scol’s reactions feel towny because it’s just like fuck you fuck you fuck you do this and then that and i don’t think at wha

[Ydrasse]

oops

what’s the first sign of resistance scol turtles into like a weird anti spew place

[Ydrasse]

i’m less sure on pooky but i feel ? like when he’s a wolf he doesn’t step off the pedal pushing things and then he did that with scol and dann and is giving them a bit of room for now which i don’t think he normally would

[Ydrasse]

but also i think dann showing up in normal dann form could have scared pooky if he’s a wolf lol

[geraintm]

The most significant post created over the last 24 hours was 572. In the grand scheme of things that's what I care about.

It was a p bad post indeed

well, that is a strong inducement to post more

[Herta]

I don't think scum (Dann) enters with a case like that against lhf (me). If it was a chainsaw like Pooky said it seems there are easier ways to do that?