Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

innocentvillager · Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:25 am

In post 1439, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1318, Val89 wrote:
In post 1282, innocentvillager wrote:Toto is alive and geraint obviously flipped tonw
I'm another one questioning my read on IV. I'm still fine with that flip, and I have no problem with IV deciding to policy that, but the continued characterisation of that being an "obviously town" flip has me wondering. It was not obvious to me, at all, and that means either IV has a much, much better grasp of mafia that I do, or it's much more obvious when you have a pre-knowledge of gera's alignment, and that's bleeding in to these sort of posts.

It's not something that tanks the whole read for me, since Dunning–Kruger is a thing and it might be the case IV is just better at mafia...but I don't think I'm that bad at mafia, either.
I think iv is one of the towniesr players in the game rn and i really, really don't think scum take the stance of trying to flip their biggest townread on policy
It's just a wild stance to take and has a very high chance of blowing up in their faces and causing a lot of suspicion later down the line. Scum don't really take a position like rhat normally

(Also my prior tr on val is kinda evaporating)

I semi vibed with the “Val’s random scumread on me feels a bit stilted” but maybe it’s just because he thinks so radically differently from me so I’m willing to chalk the ping off aa a mere playstyle diff

Toto · Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:27 am

Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?

Toto · Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:28 am

Also

@mod VL/A till sunday

Freedom · Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:21 am

In post 1451, Toto wrote:Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?

I don't really have a reliable way for reading Herta but he can be pretty obvscum as scum.

Freedom · Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:22 am

In other words, from what I know of scum!Herta, he tends to openwolf.

innocentvillager · Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:30 am

In post 1454, Freedom wrote:In other words, from what I know of scum!Herta, he tends to openwolf.

In post 1453, Freedom wrote:
In post 1451, Toto wrote:Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?
I don't really have a reliable way for reading Herta but he can be pretty obvscum as scum.

You just said he’s obvscum when scum but you don’t have a reliable way for reading him

What are you saying here..?

Freedom · Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:46 am

In post 1455, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1454, Freedom wrote:In other words, from what I know of scum!Herta, he tends to openwolf.

In post 1453, Freedom wrote:
In post 1451, Toto wrote:Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?
I don't really have a reliable way for reading Herta but he can be pretty obvscum as scum.
You just said he’s obvscum when scum but you don’t have a reliable way for reading him

What are you saying here..?

Because I was asked to tell if he was town/scum and I can't remember if Herta was lhf as Town and thus invalidating my scumtell for him.

unwnd · Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:50 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm fine with him going over

VOTE: Scoliosis

unwnd · Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:51 pm

I actually was shocked that the votes he's gathered hasn't got him kicking and screaming more

That was why I wanted to focus on Herta, just didn't want to be yelled at lol

Freedom · Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:08 pm

In post 1458, unwnd wrote:I actually was shocked that the votes he's gathered hasn't got him kicking and screaming more

That was why I wanted to focus on Herta, just didn't want to be yelled at lol

That's a good observation.
Scol seems more focused on Kitty opposed to the others voting him.

innocentvillager · Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:43 pm

In post 1458, unwnd wrote:I actually was shocked that the votes he's gathered hasn't got him kicking and screaming more

That was why I wanted to focus on Herta, just didn't want to be yelled at lol

Shocked in a "he's scum for not reacting to his wagon with a tantrum" way?

Freedom · Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:44 pm

iv, what do you make of Scol's focus on Kitty?

Scoliosis · Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:00 pm

Meh, still skitter-kt-pooky imo. I don't think any of my town reads have become stronger or weaker either.

Freedom · Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:04 pm

Why Pooky again?

Scoliosis · Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:06 pm

In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?

You didn't ask yet.

Freedom · Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:29 pm

I thought that you had already explained.
If you hadn't, can you explain?

Herta · Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:30 pm

In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?

Do you have any reads freedom?

Freedom · Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:32 pm

In post 1466, Herta wrote:
In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?
Do you have any reads freedom?

I think that Val is probably Town and because you don't seem openwolfy, you also might be town.

Herta · Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:32 pm

In post 1451, Toto wrote:Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?

Did you even read my EOD reads list? Are you even reading any of my posts?

Herta · Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:33 pm

In post 1467, Freedom wrote:
In post 1466, Herta wrote:
In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?
Do you have any reads freedom?
I think that Val is probably Town and because you don't seem openwolfy, you also might be town.

No scum reads? Scoliosis?

Freedom · Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:35 pm

In post 1469, Herta wrote:
In post 1467, Freedom wrote:
In post 1466, Herta wrote:
In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?
Do you have any reads freedom?
I think that Val is probably Town and because you don't seem openwolfy, you also might be town.
No scum reads? Scoliosis?

Scol seems a bit odd today.
I don't really like that his focus on Kitty.

Herta · Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:13 pm

In post 1470, Freedom wrote:
In post 1469, Herta wrote:
In post 1467, Freedom wrote:
In post 1466, Herta wrote:
In post 1463, Freedom wrote:Why Pooky again?
Do you have any reads freedom?
I think that Val is probably Town and because you don't seem openwolfy, you also might be town.
No scum reads? Scoliosis?
Scol seems a bit odd today.
I don't really like that his focus on Kitty.

Does that mean you townread kittytacky?

KittyTacky · Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:14 pm

In post 1441, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1350, innocentvillager wrote:The main thing that stops me from wanting Scol is just how absolutely dead the gamestate was at EOD. gera was likely to go through but not at all certain. If Scol was scum I would've expected more activity/more urgency from both Scol and his team to move towards gera.
Agreed

Again, why would he be urgent if a townie essentially jumped onto the gallows and hanged himself? He was in no danger as long as gera didn't claim and kept being stubborn.

KittyTacky · Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:16 pm

In post 1443, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1387, KittyTacky wrote:BTW Scol's unexplained turnaround of me smells of scum trying to eliminate a threat.
I mean it isnt really unexplained, he thinks i'm scum and has been harping on you as a potential partner on me for a while

Also i'm not sure he views you as a threat either

I mean I am leading the push. And he only started harping on that once I doubled down on him.

Toto · Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:16 pm

In post 1468, Herta wrote:
In post 1451, Toto wrote:Anyone can explain how to read herta again and why he is town/scum here?

I can see town!herta thinking he is a lhf and and easy target to come for, so the skitter tunnel scum case makes sense from that pov. At the same time he is not contributing much to resolving the game which is scummy, but that seems to be his approach to the game as both town and mafia from the few games I could look into.

Also herta, if you are town, can you town up?
Did you even read my EOD reads list? Are you even reading any of my posts?

Sorry my memory sucks. Whats your opinion on scolosis who is about to get limed. has that changed today? What do you think of his wagon? Why do you think unwnd is scum reading you?