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Post Post #2725  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:23 am

In post 2723, Flavor Leaf wrote:Man, I'm getting super paranoid that you're starting to pocket me.

Go ahead, I haven't cleared you 100% yet either! :]

Let's just use this opportunity to work together now that we are online at the same time.

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Post Post #2726  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:25 am

In post 2724, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2721, Flavor Leaf wrote:Getting repetitive? Look at the last 3 on the wagon again.

While I already said I agree that there is scum in those three (possibly two), I'm not ready to believe all three of them would be so transparently together.

I honestly am worried that NTRP is just sheeping/floating around this game.
He is prob. town who just lacks drive to take things to their own hands, and rather follows strong players.

This would leave us with potential Dunker+rb (based on those vote-counts), and one who has stayed off wagons or is townread highly enough to escape detection.


See, I don't think there are 3 scum. I could see that traitor possibility that Eddie brought up potentially, but 3 full scum members and a SK seems a little too hard for town. It's why I'm not even thinking about 3 scum anymore. I'll focus on two, and if the game continues after that, I'll go from there.
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Post Post #2727  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:54 am

In post 1545, wavemode wrote:Guys

I think I might have been wrong about mulch

I dived into the ISO-world, and reread this.
At the time I thought it could have been clumsy scum trying to soften their "scumread" on Mulch just before the flip (this was after mulch had self-hammered).
I thought that it was too clumsy for scum.
But I now realized Wave wasn't on the wagon, WHICH MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE.

So Wave just wanted to drop in a comment about "ok, I think he might actually be scum after all, I read him badly" just before the flip? Why?
To make it look like he couldn't possibly know Mulch alignment?

The original reason why I went jungle-swinging in the ISOs, is because I was trying to find anything in SD to make her a worthy NK.
Found nothing reasonable, and yet there has to be a reason.

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Post Post #2728  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:48 am

In post 2707, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2686, Eddie Cane wrote:- scum and vig killed the same person who was subsequently healed

Wouldn't that mean the person dies anyway? (according to normal Doctor in wiki)

Or do you mean that in these kind of games "Some moderators cause Doctors' protection to stop all kills that would resolve on the target that Night." is more likely?

not sure how normal resplcss that actually. from my exp it stops all kills but never had it come intonplay on ms

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Post Post #2729  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:03 am

In post 2690, TwoInAMillion wrote:Have to agree with Eddie. Although I am new to the game so if someone can point out the important information I'd appreciate it.

Vote: una

Why did you agree with Eddie?

In post 2692, Eddie Cane wrote:Thor, wheres your head at now? do you believe rb is possibly scum after that ate? I know I personally would be disgusted if he was scum and posted like that.

:neutral:
You're saying his strategy was to cry like a woman child and replace out to help his replacement's scum wincon?

In post 2727, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 1545, wavemode wrote:Guys

I think I might have been wrong about mulch

I dived into the ISO-world, and reread this.
At the time I thought it could have been clumsy scum trying to soften their "scumread" on Mulch just before the flip (this was after mulch had self-hammered).
I thought that it was too clumsy for scum.
But I now realized Wave wasn't on the wagon, WHICH MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE.

So Wave just wanted to drop in a comment about "ok, I think he might actually be scum after all, I read him badly" just before the flip? Why?
To make it look like he couldn't possibly know Mulch alignment?

The original reason why I went jungle-swinging in the ISOs, is because I was trying to find anything in SD to make her a worthy NK.
Found nothing reasonable, and yet there has to be a reason.

How does your analysis work here considering that MULCH HAD CLAIMED SCUM AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME?
Like, that's kind of a big thing to ignore.

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

I know I sound like a broken record, but seriously now people, this is such a good wagon, and has been a good wagon for a long time.

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Post Post #2730  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:44 am

Semi v/la till Monday 14th
I will probably have internet access, but intend to be spending a lot of the time partying with my fiancee or drinking so...y'know, won't be posting much.

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Post Post #2731  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:00 am

I will sheep VOTE: Dunkerdoodles
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Post Post #2732  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:24 pm

ok, i see a wagon forming on me so i'm going to claim PR. i can fullclaim if i need to, it doesn't impact my role that much being on outed PR so yeah.
does game replacement/rb make sense? game replacement's push on rb seem a bit like bussing to me.
i still think skitter was scum, rb could've been scum too but i think rb was town, but you guys are scumreading him so idk

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Post Post #2733  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:39 pm

Two votes was worth claiming over?
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Post Post #2734  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:01 pm

In post 2733, wavemode wrote:Two votes was worth claiming over?

yes?
una also called me scum and a wagon was going to form on me anyways so

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Post Post #2735  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:04 pm

!VOTE: dunker!

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Post Post #2736  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:40 pm

In post 63, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 61, rb wrote:Sunlit probably town

man im bad at this game

In post 41, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 39, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 36, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 35, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Also full disclosure I have no idea how to inject myself into banter when I don't know anyone, so until I have something game-centric to discuss Imma be awkward af.

This is scum
VOTE: sunlit

I don't appreciate the way you marked SD as scum, because I don't know anyone yet either, so I feel awkward too..

VOTE: Sunlit Diamond because oh my gush, Dunker already found one?!? :eek:

yeah i'm really good at this game aren't i?

In post 67, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 66, NotTheRealPaul wrote:
In post 63, Dunkerdoodles wrote:
In post 61, rb wrote:Sunlit probably town

man im bad at this game


agreed

xD

im just joking dont get mad lol

pedit: and by meta. I think dunkers gets scumread by page 3 every game. he has an unusual skill

i'm actually really good at getting scumread believe it or not

Is the consensus that the Mulch lynch was scum driven or town driven?

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Post Post #2737  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 2699, frog wrote:
In post 2692, Eddie Cane wrote:seriously, still tunnelling me? if so any new opinions?


This might surprise you, but I am not! After yesterday and last night, there are a few things I have to reconsider. More forthcoming


During Night 2 I reassessed where I was in relation to the gamestate and the game, and came to the conclusion that there is a substantial chance that I have very badly misinterpreted your play. I now think the two of us should form a townbloc, as strange as that sounds given yesterday's vitriol.

Flavor Leaf has also risen highly in my estimation for their play late yesterday and early today.

Since I was wrong on Mario, I am now also actively rethinking my townreads.

In post 2732, Dunkerdoodles wrote:ok, i see a wagon forming on me so i'm going to claim PR. i can fullclaim if i need to, it doesn't impact my role that much being on outed PR so yeah.
does game replacement/rb make sense? game replacement's push on rb seem a bit like bussing to me.
i still think skitter was scum, rb could've been scum too but i think rb was town, but you guys are scumreading him so idk


Will your claim help us understand what has been happening the previous few nights? If yes, your claim would be valued, as far too many players have been engaging in night analysis for them all to be scum.

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Post Post #2738  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 2736, TwoInAMillion wrote:Is the consensus that the Mulch lynch was scum driven or town driven?


ummmmmmmmm

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Post Post #2739  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:57 pm

In post 2709, UnaBombaH wrote:I want to hear frog/GameReplacement the most for now, and see where they are going with their thoughts.


Sure. Ask me anything!

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Post Post #2740  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:31 pm

my claim wouldn't really help sort out anything. i'm more inclined to believe there's a vig with my role tho.
my role definitely could exist without a vig tho so idk

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Post Post #2741  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:50 pm

I am tempted to call for a mass claim. there are positives and negatives. assuming 3 scum, after 2 mislynches and 2 successful nks we are 6:3 aka lylo. so, we need some time to sort out claims. dunker and frog have obviously softed being pr so if town scum know where to kill. actually, maybe frog was shot and saved, but idk I know I scumread him and he was potentially mislynchable. but anyways, the disadvantage of mass claim is scum being able to kill as they please. id like to point out, however, they probably don't have a roleblocker because if they did sk would be fucked.

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Post Post #2742  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:06 pm

I am fine with a massclaim, preferably popcorn

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Post Post #2743  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Usually when there is a scum lynch scum try and jump on at the last minute to appear town right?

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Post Post #2744  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:08 pm

I am against a massclaim, don't want to out power roles.

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Post Post #2745  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:09 pm

I actually think all the PR's in this game are incredibly obvious by now, and unless there is info to give, I don't think any of the PR's should full claim. It only helps scum at this point, because they can pick which PR's they'd rather have around.
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Post Post #2746  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:11 pm

Also, Eddie, I believe it was you that brought it up.

A Doctor is a role that targets a player at Night to protect that player from a single kill made during that Night.
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Post Post #2747  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:12 pm

From the wiki
"I don't want to sit in a lecture that teaches me how to modify algorithms instead of think for myself." - Lip Gallagher [Shameless]

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Post Post #2748  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:20 pm

If it matters, I went over some of Rb's scum games over the night phase, and he has replaced out as scum a good amount. He does it as town, too, though, so it's NAI.
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Post Post #2749  (ISO)  » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:39 pm

VOTE: dunkers

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