Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[Sephiroth]

I swear to God if you fuckers keep lynching exclusively Lynch bait I'mma lose it.

[Sergtacos]

lol OMGUSing

Wish I could play honestly but I'm distracted with school and work and everything else.

[Katyusha]

it still feels as though you didn’t actually think he was scummy, and i’m sure you’ve played the game long enough to know that info lynched are bs

like, why not push sheep? Or at least hesitate about giving scum!sheep his mislynch?

wanting the day to end is fine but I don’t see a town reason to prioritize day ending over a possible scum lynch

pedit: I’m thinking here

[Katyusha]

Maybe a reread is actually in order here

[Sephiroth]

Sheep Lynch wasn't happening yesterday and you know that. You also know that info lynches are 100% not bs if it's day 1. I would never make that same play d2 but there's literally no reason to drag on a hammer for 8 days just cuz we can. I find it markedly our of character for you to say that a day 1 info lynches is bs. Like I don't see how you could believe that and it strike me as disingenuous. I also don't like your subtle attempt to characterize 'wanting to end the day' as an excuse. I own my decision to support that wagon, and that's called a reason, not an excuse.

[Katyusha]

The best info to be gained is a scum flip, and sheep has partners if he’s scum

You’d gain way more information by going against the grain and seeing how people react, even if your push is unsuccessful

plus one of sheep’s partners might be lynchable (and as far as I can tell a theory scum!ucv is incompatible with a scum!sheep)

That’s just my philosophy. I don’t push townreads unless I’m gambitting

[Internecine]

Can someone townreading n_m tell me why since a decent chunk of you seem to

I cant read him to save my life

[Hopkirk]

Today turned out a bit different to expected so I'm limited activity for tonight/tomorrow and none on thursday now. Still won't be able to do much rereading until friday or sat though.

Okay so Serg and Seph. Last partner may want to bus now. Is it Hopkirk or Rem? Hmmm.

I'm already voting him.

Need to reread Sheep/Kat/Serg/Flubber.

[Katyusha]

Can someone townreading n_m tell me why since a decent chunk of you seem to

I cant read him to save my life

Your mind should fill in the blanks of his thought process - he votes and prods at “the right things” as town

I read him like a trollier dunnstral

[Hopkirk]

I reread Flubber’s iso. It screams scum.

388 is terrible. He scumread UC/NM before that. Both lynchbaity. In 388 he drops both, focusing on scum on his wagon. He drops UC/NM completely after that. Barely mentions them whatsoever. Doesn’t try and interact with them or develop the reads. He also doesn’t take a significant stance on UC either way towards the end of the day. Consistency is off throughout. Tone is off throughout.

After this, he forms new scumreads on HeM, Buj, and me. I don’t like these because they’re me, flipped town, and one of my biggest townreads. Buj is also lynchbaity. HeM and me are arguing heavily at this point. Diverting attention from himself to us helps scum!flubber here. Crucially, he doesn’t make any effort to sort me after that. He mentions me around a dozen times after that. However, this is always talking about me. He doesn’t ask me any questions. The first time he quotes me is over sixty of him posts later. His question is just throwing shade. His next and last question to me is more shade. This isn’t what developing a read on me looks like. It’s opportunism. His entire approach is opportunism without a logical process of reads development.

Flubber’s sheep interactions want me to read sheep next.

[Hopkirk]

Sheep is townread because his posting is pretty uncontroversial. I read his iso. It’s uncontroversial because its passive. It’s commentary. There isn’t a single point where I can see him saying something that has a direct impact on the game other than the UC vote.

Sheep consistently scumreads and votes Flubber. He switches to UC. He townreads Flubber shortly afterward. This is not explained. In 1361, Sheep reads Flubber as more town than his prior townblock. Maybe equal to if I'm misreading it, but the point stands either way. I don’t follow his thought process here. Nobody seems to care.
Side point: someone disliked me saying ‘Flubber town’. I think it was either Kat or HeM. Whoever it was didn’t comment on Sheep’s flip on Flubber here. Doesn’t mean partners. It means Sheep is flying under the radar.

I hate Sheep’s comment about Moz having a strong meta read on me. He had no reason to assume that. It felt like a way to attack me by proxy. Sheep’s tone is inconsistent on me across the game. If mafia killed Moz, and Intern killed Bu, then the kill could make it look like I killed Moz. Sheep only sorting Bu overnight feels convenient when he seemed more uncertain on me. I get a general sense he’s positioning from this, and from the rest of his play.

@Intern: who did you vig?


In 1551, I feel like Sheep is trying to present his UC read as stronger than it was.

He voted in 803 because UC/DYK was avoiding the thread.
1054 is consistent. He's pushing for content. He'll unvote if UC acts town.
He switches to a scumread for DYK not producing content. DYK had clearly not fully caught up by this point. Scumreading DYK for avoiding the thread and not producing reads, then hammering while he's presenting reads, doesn't make sense.

Sheep says now, in 1551 that he scumread UCV for not reading the thread. He commented about UCV not reading the thread in the 803/1054 period, where UCV was avoiding the thread and hadn't posted. At this point, Sheep was willing to not vote UCV if there was town content from him or the slot. This doesn't match what Sheep is saying today- that he had a hard scumread from UCV avoiding the thread. The hard scumread develops after UCV came back. I feel like Sheep is engaging in revisionism today.

[Hopkirk]

Decided to take the V/LA off since there shouldn't be a 48 hour period where I can't post now. Still somewhat limited access- especially thursday, but I can post.

Sheep and Flubber are solid scumreads.

I'm going to try and look at Kat again now.

[Hopkirk]

If I leave aside interactions between Kat and me, then Kat definitely leans town.

I mainly disliked her push on me as it was 99% playstyle based, but she wasn’t trying to work out what my playstyle was. 447 and 547 show this. Her case on me is projecting what she’d do despite it being inapplicable to me. In 1030 she intends to look at my meta but doesn’t.

I too frequently treat scumreading me as a scumtell. I can see Kat as town after adjusting for confirmation bias. I could see her interaction with me as genuine from a town point of view, despite being backed by bad logic.

Moved to a townread on Kat after the reread.

[northsidegal]

Searching for a replacement for Sergtacos.

Spoiler:

yes! i finally get the replacement queue in my egosearch!

[northsidegal]

Firebringer replaces Sergtacos

[Firebringer]

I hardclaim scum.

What’s up everyone?

[humaneatingmonkey]

I hardclaim surprised

[Firebringer]

I cc ur claim

[Firebringer]

1v1 me lets go
VOTE: humaneating

[humaneatingmonkey]

you are scum.
end 1v1.

[Firebringer]

Asking for ceasefire?

[humaneatingmonkey]

there is no crossfire to cease. the fire you bring is mellow.
also at this point, i am very convinced your slot is scum.

[Firebringer]

I am unlikely to do a catch-up
Can someone fill me in to what’s major topics?

[humaneatingmonkey]

If you lynch Sephiroth with me, we can call it quits for this day.

[Firebringer]

there is no crossfire to cease. the fire you bring is mellow.
also at this point, i am very convinced your slot is scum.

How dare you say my fire is mellow.

I’ll have you know I was too graduate of my pyro school for all 10 years I attended