Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Isis]

VOTE: geraintm

[Isis]

I doubt I'm good enough at mafia to reread this game until I realize the player who's fought to kill my clear for multiple days is actually town

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 5's Third Votecount

Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Not_Mafia
Isis (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
geraintm (1): Isis
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):

Not Voting (2): UnaBombaH, geraintm

With 5 voters, 3 votes are required to execute.

Day 5 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-08-29 05:45:00).

[Isis]

skimming completed normals it looks like half town wins so I guess towns just suck and all.

maybe I suck too sorry if my d1 read was wrong and Una is masterclass gera

[Isis]

lol not how eLo VCs are supposed to look heh

[Not_Mafia]

If N_M and Isis feel like they are willing to "risk" it by voting gera, I'll join.
I don't want to lose this because of my pride and fear of losing to Isis here.
I always say I'm not a prideful person, but honestly it's just more about managing the feeling and not letting it overpower logic.

https://youtu.be/89ZfbX4Rdzw?t=56

[Isis]

Are you wanting to go for it or hear from gera N_M?

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: geraint

Please lord, lest me be a fool

[UnaBombaH]

I think I'm coming round to Gera scum and just dismissing Una's role as "wtf are normals these days"

"wtf are normals these days"

"wtf are normals these days"

Well, from my latest games.

The setup would've been 1xIC, 1xMiller and a "red herring"-role to screw with peoples heads on flip?
Doesn't seem any less weird than an additional Miller and a Rolecop on top.

I do not EXPECT to run into a setup like this ever again, but that wasn't the first time on site with two Millers in the game.

What the actual fuck.
It was really just a 11:2?

So I just avoid any and all setup-spec nowadays.
Trying to enjoy the game no matter what bs-role I end up having, has become a metagame of its own.

[UnaBombaH]

Not hammering.

[UnaBombaH]

No wait, I AM hammering.
VOTE: gera

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 5's Fourth Votecount

geraintm (3): Isis, Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH
Isis (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Replacement for Sujimichi (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):

Not Voting (1): geraintm

With 5 voters, 3 votes are required to execute.

Day 5 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-08-29 05:45:00).

[Fredrick A Campbell]

geraintm has been executed. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Not_Mafia was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Isis was a

Town Tracker

.

Congratulations to the scumteam of UnaBombaH, Replacement for Sujimichi and Hoopla for winning Mini Normal 2153.

UnaBombaH was a

Mafia Commuter

.

Replacement for Sujimichi was a

Mafia Goon

.

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[Isis]

lol mafia commuter rip

[Isis]

I don't feel bad

[Fredrick A Campbell]

@Isis:

Is the setup still balanced?

[Dunnstral]

I died here so long ago that I don't really know what happened

Tracker living to 5 people alive and town still mislimming looks very unlucky

[Not_Mafia]

Yeah I knew that role was horseshit, that's two games in a row where my reads were correct and i second guessed them because of claim related shennanigans.

GGs and congrats to scum

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I died here so long ago that I don't really know what happened

Tracker living to 5 people alive and town still mislimming looks very unlucky

But the tracker could only track one of the leftover mafioso. Hence, it really could have went either way.

[Isis]

I mean, I stay off the NRG for a reason

Normal setups all look unfair to scum on paper but scum wins a lot of them anyway (while in the newbie queue they look fair and then towns always win)

I don't think it's really that balanced for a scumteam to have to weave between psychologist, a tracker, and a follower, no. The investigative roles get too strong as scum are eliminated.

Towns on ms.net like play in a way that makes it so they deserve to lose, though. Galron was lolhammered with no claim this game. notscience skipped a night action. These are huge and impact the balance of the game.

I really hate normals and prefer to play open setups, or I'd rather play a theme because at least it's more openly silly where normals seem to take themselves seriously but then they're silly.
I actually don't think I've rolled scum in a normal but I feel like it'd be infuriating to lose one of these things to a town that skipped all the unforced errors that are baked into the balance of the setups. It seems more gratifying to lose something like white flag.

I made an exception to my normal abstentions for Sujimichi but she left

[Isis]

I really don't enjoy having to play setup wifom

it's incorrect not to, even if it will sometimes mislead you like here

I love open setups so much more

[Isis]

I think this setup is more balanced than the weak doctor one I played FAC. I'm not going to complain too much

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I really don't enjoy having to play setup wifom

it's incorrect not to, even if it will sometimes mislead you like here

I love open setups so much more

In the end, the game is still about deception. I don't think the setup of a game should prevent the mafia from deceiving the poor, innocent town.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

UnaBombaH gave me his night action to commute several hours before night end. I wonder if Isis had received a "Your target did not go anywhere." Results Private Message instead of a "You failed to receive a result." Results Private Message, would the game have ended several hours earlier?

[Isis]

N_M wouldn't have appeared to be conftown, the game would have ended much later.