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Post Post #2525  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:49 pm

In post 2492, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2490, Human Sequencer wrote:mvp is undoubtedly grey.

Nah. Scum wouldn't have been lynched day 1 if it wasn't for the horrible miller claim and that had nothing to do with grey. He and ircher spewed horrible untruths and bad advice this game. The fact they were town tells me they are actually terrible players who just got lucky

As I explained to atleast nadroj, some of the setup spec was based on what I knew versus what a VT knew.

Also, your push on me was bad anyway.
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Post Post #2526  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:52 pm

In post 2499, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 2459, ThinkBig wrote:Adding a SK + Traitor was an interesting choice. Though I think that may have actually made it a bit town sided.


IMO it was very town sided. As if any red member died we lost day talk (As Only RD and TF had access to it) and as I didn't know who my allies was it was harder for me. We also had a enabler for the astectic which sucked.. Like.. the moment we lost RD we lost all our Poweroles at the same time.

it was 3 scum WITH power roles plus an SK. That is by nature very scum-sided.
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Post Post #2527  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:01 pm

Nah it wasn't. You're a player I'll be avoiding that's for sure.

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Post Post #2528  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:15 pm

In post 2505, Naomi-Tan wrote:So. If we break it down.

If any mafia member dies we have no day talk anymore
If gamma dies we lost a PR
If RD died we lost all power Roles.

VS

3-Shot Neighbouriser,
A SK
2-Shot Cop
A Jailor

1) Cop is very weak at 2-shot with a mafia ascetic around. Weaker still with the jailkeeper.
2) The jailkeeper is of decent power, but there is a lot of wifom in results, esp. considering that this game is multiball. Really reduce its power as well
3) The neighborizer can at best confirm themselves and even that doesn't help them too much
4) SK means an average of two kills a night:

13: 9-3-1
Lynch Town: 8-3-1
2 Town Die (Most Likely): 6-3-1
Lynch Town: 5-3-1
2 Town Die (Still fairly likely): 3-3-1 which is basically a loss for town.
Town should generally get at least 2, preferably 3 in a mini orbigger mislynches before they lose. Worst case scenario means town lose if they make 2 mislynches.

5) Scum have prs against an already weak town
6) The SK somewhat balances the town's weak power, but overall, still scum-sided
7) Mountainous 10-3 is scumsided by a big margin.

Pedit: You're just sour cuz you lost
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Post Post #2529  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:25 pm

I made the decision to avoid playing with you before dashie got lynched.

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Post Post #2530  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:25 pm

You and grey

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Post Post #2531  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:28 pm

In post 2530, TwoFace wrote:You and grey

The fact I was right really burns your ass doesn't it?
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Post Post #2532  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:29 pm

Again I didn't want to play with either of you before dashie was lynched. But whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.

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Post Post #2533  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:30 pm

In post 2531, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2530, TwoFace wrote:You and grey

The fact I was right really burns your ass doesn't it?

Or, the fact I actually convinced town in spite of how wonderfully awesome Dash supposedly is.
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Post Post #2534  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:34 pm

In post 2532, TwoFace wrote:Again I didn't want to play with either of you before dashie was lynched. But whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.


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Post Post #2535  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:34 pm

Dashie played like shit. She got herself lynched, claiming Miller and discrediting the cop is never a good idea on any level.

But hey, remember I made that comment about people getting lucky and acting arrogant? Look in the mirror. That's you

You got lucky, you didn't catch her with any sort of skill

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Post Post #2536  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:35 pm

And on that note. Good riddance troll

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Post Post #2537  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:37 pm

In post 2535, TwoFace wrote:But hey, remember I made that comment about people getting lucky and acting arrogant? Look in the mirror. That's you

I'm not arrogant at all. I know I'm shit. I am just having fun pointing out that my shit ass actually got the wonderfully awesome Dash busted because it's fucking stupid that she would presume to preach about anyone's play being bad when she was lynched as scum on d1.
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Post Post #2538  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:46 pm

I'm so shit that I led not just one, but two wagons on scum before I died... On d2.

God I'm terrible.
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Post Post #2539  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:49 pm

In post 1493, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:VOTE: Krylea

Reading through the ISO, there was no scum hunting that was done, what I find telling is Krylea voting Grey and then after reading why neither should be lynched or either are town, she agreed it made sense but didn't change her mind.

Also the fact that I was going to push this lynch instead of Krylea and I still think I'm going to be right on this flip.

My bad, forgot about this.
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Post Post #2540  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:51 pm

In post 1481, -Grey- wrote:My townreads include:

Gamma
Human
{One to be named later for ~reasons~}

The Lynch today will be one of:
Gin
krylea

Those are the two wagons we need to have today. I'll clarify on Gin for the doubters after the day has properly gotten underway. krylea has done plenty to tip her hand.

This stated my intention of lynching k though.
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Post Post #2541  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:47 pm

In post 2446, XnadrojX wrote:And with that, it's a huge

TOWN VICTORY

TwoFace the Mafia Goon was lynched! Will reveal setup stuff when I get home to my computer.

Kick ass.
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Post Post #2542  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:52 pm

Man, I played this game so badly. I hate playing scum. But yeah, kudos Grey. MVP for sure - though I guess it helped that both Dash and I basically served ourselves up on silver platters :P

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Post Post #2543  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:54 pm

Why didn't you claim vig Krylea?
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Post Post #2544  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:00 pm

a) I was pretty fucked anyway
b) AA quickhammered me before I could say much

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Post Post #2545  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:00 pm

In post 2544, krylea wrote:a) I was pretty fucked anyway
b) AA quickhammered me before I could say much

He did, and I was actually impressed with his reasoning for it.
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Post Post #2546  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:06 pm

btw Uninformed Traitor is BULLSHIT. It completely removes the chance for scumhunting based on the Traitor's actions.
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Post Post #2547  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:07 pm

Gamma I heard you like Sun Tzu ;)
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Post Post #2548  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:27 am

Please be nice.

The traitor does not know their partners to give Town a chance at Day 3 assuming 6 Town died. That is not extremely likely due to the fact there's a JK and either scum can hit the other. Even at 3v3v1, the triator can accidentally vote their scumbuddy, scum could hit their traitor, and SK can help in scumlynches. This is my first game I designed so it may not be perfect, but I tried my best to balance it.
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Post Post #2549  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:34 am

jordan, your setup was fine. i enjoyed the game a lot and i think your modding was mostly fine, it only needed more votecounts which is a skill you develop over time.
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