Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

[nancy]

Sigh.

If this is really {JJD, mbg, Sheep} then yeah, this could just be scumteam given up.

[Fro99er]

So we have:

BP
Cop
Backup Cop
Jailkeeper

If there's any other PRs then they are basically a CC to Matt and should 1v1

There is ZERO chance town have 5 PRs given the strength of these PRs

[Fro99er]

I also think it's pretty suspicious we have two roles that can stop kills. And RC is confirmed town.

[mattblackguy]

If this is really {JJD, mbg, Sheep} then yeah, this could just be scumteam given up.

I'm not scum. And I haven't even given up.

[Rautherdir]

So we have:

BP
Cop
Backup Cop
Jailkeeper

If there's any other PRs then they are basically a CC to Matt and should 1v1

There is ZERO chance town have 5 PRs given the strength of these PRs

Jailkeeper balances out Cop though, the cop can be protected, but at the cost of losing the investigation that night.

[nancy]

@Rauth imagine there are 2 scumspects left and neither JK nor Cop are outed. JK hits 1 scumspect and Cop hits other. GG scumteam. It's pretty overpowered.

[Grendel]

So Mattblk claims jail keeper? That's actually really interesting!

See the last mini I was in was:

Cop, back up cop,

and a

jail keeper

with

two town aligned ascetics

to soft counter the cop(s). Scum was

two goons

, and a

Neocop

.

This set up:

Cop, Backup cop, jail keeper

, and

BP

.

That sounds too strong. At least for an all goon team.

Scum role blocker doesn't work well with jail keeper in a closed set up due to priority issues.

Scum don't have a strongman because that defeats the whole purpose of town's BP in theory, and in practice RC wouldn't be alive today.

Having trouble thinking of other scum powers that could mesh with jail keeper that aren't contrary to the rest of town's power.

[Rautherdir]

Role cop, maybe?

[RadiantCowbells]

Role cop is the obvious selection assuming all the PR claims are legit.

[mattblackguy]

Scum role blocker doesn't work well with jail keeper in a closed set up due to priority issues.

Scum roleblocker can stop both jailkeeper protecting, and the cops. I don't understand what you mean by priority issues exactly.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why are we discussing the possibility of a scum roleblocker when the roleblock is accounted for?

[Grendel]

Actually yeah, some kind of investigative would make sense.

What else do you think about the claim RC?

[Rautherdir]

If the remaining two scum are a roleblocker and a role cop, I could see this setup being somewhat balanced. Especially if one of them is Ascetic or something like that.

[Grendel]

Scum role blocker doesn't work well with jail keeper in a closed set up due to priority issues.

Scum roleblocker can stop both jailkeeper protecting, and the cops. I don't understand what you mean by priority issues exactly.

Historically speaking its uncommon for role blockers, and jail keepers being together in mini normals.

By priority I mean who role blocks who if they were to role block each other.

[Rautherdir]

@RC:

In other words answer this:

Do you get told if you were shot?

[RadiantCowbells]

Uhh you're badly overestimating how powerful town is in this game.

No, I don't. Only limited shot bps ever do.

[Pine]

Jailkeeper and roleblocker targeting one another causes both to be roleblocked. The actions occur simultaneously.

[Fro99er]

Uhh you're badly overestimating how powerful town is in this game.

No, I don't. Only limited shot bps ever do.

So you're a full BP...

???

[RadiantCowbells]

I did claim as such, yes.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fro99er right now feels like scum who is crying because they feel the setup is town sided or smth.

[Rautherdir]

I kind of have to agree with you there RC. I know I said to delay the lynch until Sunday, but now...

Yeah, sorry Fro99er.

VOTE: Fro99er

[Fro99er]

Fro99er right now feels like scum who is crying because they feel the setup is town sided or smth.

Lol nope. I'm solving the game for you and you don't realize it.

Flip me

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Fro99er

[mattblackguy]

Solving the game by trying to mislynch town jailkeeper. Makes perfect sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

*thinking*

what if its just scum jailkeeper?