Mini 1895: Shaziro Mafia - GAME OVER

[Shaziro]

Votecount 4.5

Votes

Oneironaut (1)

- Titus,

Titus (1)

- GuyInFreezer,

TwoFace (1)

- Kop,

Not Voting

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IAlwaysWinSometimes, WhemeStar, implosion, MathBlade, Oneironaut,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

(expired on 2017-05-02 17:38:30)

[WhemeStar]

I got roleblocked too FYI

[Titus]

Maybe TwoFace is ascetic and IAWS roleblocked? Unless someone claimed rb.

[MathBlade]

Math, let's try reality.

IAWS claimed blocked. He has no reason to lie.

Thus, there is an ascetic or roleblocker. You claim no roleblocker.

Therefore, there must be an ascetic. Furthermore that ascetic must be whomever IAWS checked.

I don't CLAIM anything except not it.

I was exploring all possibilities.

In regards to IAWS yeah likely roleblocker then. I messed up my notes. Makes sense why Titus was screaming RB now. Mass claim makes sense.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

So shall we start to organize how we're going to do a massclaim?

[implosion]

i'd like oneironaut to commit to a claim first. I don't really care strongly about order beyond that.

[MathBlade]

And I would prefer you then Kop.

It should be up to conf IAWS not us though.

[Kop]

implosion
Kop
WhemeStar
Oneironaut
MathBlade

so at least one scum here

if my slot is universal townread why is this dude voting my slot?

Because I have that sixth sense that he could be scum.

I've posted some of my reasons why I'm thinking that he could be scum.

post 1802
post 1807

Yes whilst you are a confirmed claiamed neighbour, there was talk that Fitz could have been the scum neighbour, now that he has flipped green, if the initial thoughts that there is scum in the neighbourhood, that would leave you. There's not a single chance that IAWS is scum if there is indeed one in the hood.

I think the thread will be less messy with 2f gone. Putting his words through the filter of scum perspective and town perspective, overall I cant rly find scum or town motivation for his actions. His actions don't make sense to me as town or scum. I think he is just a very abrasive person.

Whilst he was widely town read by all, and even myself at most point of the game I've been in. But over thinking a few things, my reads altered towards 2f. All lynch flips since Traitor got flipped have been green, and 2f has been pretty much behind them all, or joined and pushed it over the line, all of that would lead to my second point in post 1807.

What I said about how he is still alive is WIFOM, but how or why is he still alive after being the most vocalist person in this game, that would tell me either he's scum, or scum just believe he's going down all the wrong paths and isn't leading anywhere near them, so see him as no threat.

[Kop]

I'd build up a better case to why I think Twoface is/was scum, but I'm not digging through the entire 400+ posts.

Because all I have seen, is he tunnelled fitz to rope, he's tunnelling or tunnelled titus a claimed doctor and didn't even entertain the idea that she is telling the truth, still wanted her out of the game.

That whole case against Titus, even after the claim, wouldn't or shouldn't be from a town perspective, a townie would at least wait for a counter claim before wanting them out of the game.

[IAlwaysWinSometimes]

I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also
UNVOTE:

[Titus]

I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.

This.

As for massclaim, you should vote one until he claims, given he is the most suspected by town. He then popcorns to someone else.

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.

[MathBlade]

I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.

This.

As for massclaim, you should vote one until he claims, given he is the most suspected by town. He then popcorns to someone else.

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.

How about IAWS votes for who he wants? Since he is conf town instead of an opinion shoved Town his throat. When IAWS wants my opinion he'll ask.

[Titus]

I think he just had a hardcore tunnelish sort of personality though.

This.

As for massclaim, you should vote one until he claims, given he is the most suspected by town. He then popcorns to someone else.

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.

How about IAWS votes for who he wants? Since he is conf town instead of an opinion shoved Town his throat. When IAWS wants my opinion he'll ask.

He did ask for opinions, repeatedly. I gave him mine.

Math, are you scum here?

[MathBlade]

I am the towniest Town to ever Town. You know my LyLO/IC play from the open Titus. Let conf Town do their thing.
IAWS is the IC. I help IAWS.

Oh WhemeStar needs to out their target FYI.

[Titus]

I believe he said TwoFace?

[MathBlade]

Probably going to vote one but want to look over some things tomorrow

Fwiw I got fruit

[MathBlade]

I was trying to slowly point out the obvious Titus......

This is day four.

That post is in day four.

How can WhemeStar be roleblocked and have delivered fruit?

[WhemeStar]

I got roleblocked day 2 lol

[MathBlade]

Speak. Clearly. Please.

[implosion]

Kop, as far as I can tell, your reasons for thinking TwoFace (now GiF) is scum are the following:

1) "I have a feeling"
2) The slot should have been nightkilled by now if it were town
3) The "scum in the neighbors" theory.

1 is useless for convincing other people, 3 is based on a theory that was never sound to begin with. As for 2, you can't just look at the slot in isolation; you have to look at the other slots that have actually been killed. Those slots are Boonskiies and Stone Cold, and both of them make a lot of sense as slots that could have been killed over TF, *especially* if oneironaut is scum. Even if he isn't i could see scum killing boon on a PR read and stone cold for his activity, but if oneironaut is scum then both kills are essentially completely explained as scum killing people with good reads.

I'm open to being convinced on it but these points aren't convincing to me.

[implosion]

If no roleblocker claims, who you checked or who should have received fruit or the fruit vendor must be scum.

Uh.... what? No. If no roleblocker claims then there is probably a mafia roleblocker who isn't claiming, and who blocked wheme night one and iaws since then...

How about IAWS votes for who he wants? Since he is conf town instead of an opinion shoved Town his throat. When IAWS wants my opinion he'll ask.

I am the towniest Town to ever Town. You know my LyLO/IC play from the open Titus. Let conf Town do their thing.
IAWS is the IC. I help IAWS.

Are you actually criticizing Titus and I for giving suggestions to iaws when he explicitly asked for them?

He did, even if only implicitly, ask in his last few posts.

[Kop]

I got roleblocked day 2 lol

day 2?

[implosion]

presumably he was mimicking MathBlade discussing day 4 in the post before his, i.e. a fruit was received day 4 but the fruit that was meant to be received and revealed on d2 was blocked, i.e. he was blocked on night 1.

[MathBlade]

IAWS asked how to do mass claim.

Not to have reads dictated to him.

Mass claim is simple. As long as everyone does it and it is how IAWS wants it.