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Official Vote Count

BigYoshiFan

(3): RayFrost, Gamma Emerald, MarioManiac4

Priscila

(1): PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald

(1): BigYoshiFan

Not Voting

(4): MMM, Kelvin Smith, Ircher, Priscila

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-04 15:48:38)

do people need to be prodded ~

I will check to see if prods are needed.

[PenguinPower]

I probably do...but, it's a holiday weekend, so be kind.

[Gamma Emerald]

I might be idrc

[BigYoshiFan]

Hi, prodge, will be back tomorrow.

[MarioManiac4]

UNVOTE:
If we don't get a Kelvin replacement today, we don't get any PR clears.
If we do, Scum get two viable choices -> Kill Kelvin or Kill Ircher. If they choose to kill Ircher (which they won't) Kelvin will die. If they choose to kill Kelvin, Ircher gets a free jailkeep the next night. So basically, we need a Kelvin replacement who won't be able to do anything. #theherowedeserve

[MMM]

Starting reread now.
I'm not gonna comment on a lot of things and mostly just sort things for myself though, since sadly I don't really have the time for making a giant post on top of a reread of all 2.4k posts ;_;

[MMM]

I recall at some point reading that Gamma was supposed to be apathetic town or something like that. I don't see many of his early posts (up to page 5) as being that.

[MMM]

Also, BYF and Gamma ping me as not!scumbuddies so far.

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh my apathy crawled on me at times like "I don't wanna solve this and don't care where this goes"
not sure if that show in my posting ever but I felt it at times

[MMM]

I don't think being worried about being incriminated by scum it inherently scummy, however page 2 is just way too early for that. "Coincidentally", Titus pointed out 7 posts earlier that Mort was also just looking for things to attack... I just wonder whether actually got two scum right there or it's actually too good to be true.

The two scum being me and Yoshi? That doesn't make sense. Actually this whole post doesn't make sense. What is the relevance of Titus' (correct) observation that I was just looking for things to attack?

The two scum that I saw would be Yoshi and Titus. I don't think it was wrong for Mort to attack Yoshi when and how he did given that at that phase in the game you do have to do something to cause game progression, Titus seemed really quick to chainsaw and BYF picked up on Titus' defense quickly.

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

Yes Gamma some of your posts do show that, but at least so far there are very few of them - I'm still looking out for posts showing that as I reread.

[MMM]

VOTE: Hikari Link

I'm not letting Yoshi off the hook there, because I still feel like his response to the speedwagon was more likely to come from scum than town. I just think a Gamma scum flip strengthens my case against Yoshi.

The level of confidence required to make this post honestly cannot yet have been obtained by town.

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Hey, people. I've not played with most of you before. FYI, my username is typically abbreviated to CDB.

and the 'delivered' point is interesting, I will ruminate on it.

Then there is this which
1. puts Yoshi and Gamma as scumbuddies, as opposed to my not!scumbuddies read, and
2. who replaced this guy again, was it Ray? I think it was Ray. For what little it matters since he only had one post, but it seems more likely to come from town to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why were you scumreading me early game btw
I remember you saying Titus+BYF/Mort+Me so I want to know that since I feel there's a decent chance you are right on BYF and want to know how you came to that conclusion in case I'm right so I can analyze it

[MMM]

At school, hiiiiiii!
Townreads: Gamma Emerald, Hikari Link
Scumreads: Transcend, TwoFace

@Yoshi:

Why was Gamma town for you at that point, again?

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL how does that tie me and yoshi together

[MMM]

This is why I scum read both of you at the time.

O_O
Do you really want to quickly change me? I'll have you know the last town to do so lost horribly.

ate, moderately scummy

I would unvote and I would expect enough people to unvote to where he's not in danger of being quick-lynched.

So you are comfortable enough with him being at L-2 to put him there, but so uncomfortable with him being at L-1 that you'd want potentially multiple people to unvote were he at L-1.

That is odd.

Yoshi looking for towncred in the weird case that Gamma actually had flipped... moderately scummy.

BYF and Mort are town

Too quick, but getting reads out is undestandable. Slightly scummy.

I'm thinking all three of us are town.
UNVOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: TwoFace

Proceeds to literally parrot the same thing...? Moderately scummy.

I'm thinking all three of us are town.
UNVOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: TwoFace

You arrived there quickly

and why tf?

VOTE: MortFeld

Not liking his responses here. It looks like he's just looking for things to attack.

Chainsawing BYF/GE. Doesn't make them look townier after the Titus slot flip by any means, and 1-2 scum is very likely to be in BYF/GE.

Yoshi 45 town

GE 50 call it out for being scum indicative, or just call it out for being wrong?

Titus 68 icky pingy question mark

Mario 69 townish maybe?

GE 70 just OMGUS or?

GE 79 bad post

GE 82 why do you think he's faking?

Transcend 8789 Transcend what the f?

GE 95 coaching Transcend, discrediting Transcend's push, not giving own opinion on Hikari. not good

Transcend 96 what does wk mean

Transcend 97 Barleycorn is dead from shame. unless I want to play a shitposty game then he will ruin another game for town.

Transcend 99 agreeish

GE is better vote.

GE 107 why are you gladiating me and Yoshi?

45 wasn't that townie, and the points on GE overall resonated with what I had thought at the time.

[Gamma Emerald]

OK that makes sense ty

[MMM]

LOL how does that tie me and yoshi together

I'm not letting Yoshi off the hook there, because I still feel like his response to the speedwagon was more likely to come from scum than town.

I just think a Gamma scum flip strengthens my case against Yoshi.

Semi-quoted the wrong post but that's the bit I was referring to

[MMM]

GE's reaction to the doublevoter is something that could definitely come from apathetic town

[BigYoshiFan]

I'm TR'ing Gamma right now. Calling Mort and I out as town as early as he did gave me town vibes. Calling Transcend out for faking his careless attitude appealed to me because I agree with it, and it's not a type of read I think scum is likely to make. And, although he was self-aware of this, excluding himself from the BYF/Mort/Gamma group when talking about it has also given me town vibes.

For MMM.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

For realsies.

Can you explain this?
Also you are the one I suspect most out of the first five to vote me. The list goes like
TwoFace
Titus
BYF
Mort
Ircher

Hm
what are the odds of two scum voting on my RVS wagon
probably high
wasn't byf one of the first to retract his vote too

[MMM]

Family halted my reread. I'll probably be nowhere near done at the end of today sadly.
Thanks Yoshi btw (I'd probably have seen it later and retracted the question but I don't know how soon I'm getting there at this rate...)

[MMM]

Ok NEVER MIND; I stopped it literally at the end of page 11 and that's literally the next post, kill me

[MMM]

Stopped at page 17, didn't notice anything overly interesting (or at least I don't recall it... I'm getting a bit tired) and I'll continue tomorrow.

[Priscila]

Titus interactions with BYF are bad, yes.

Sorry that I am putting this game low priority at the moment. I may have time in the morning. Still would like to hear from Ray.

[Priscila]

i'm thinking the chances of guessing the protective are so low that they would just shoot the doublevoter
i still like my theory of 2-shot rolecop/2-shot roleblocker/mafia traitor, however

i'm also starting to think there is no world in which both you and yoshi are town

So they just don't care about cop results? Shooting for protective is nothing about chance. You evaluate play and determine which slots are likely power, see if you can tell from their word choice if they are protective or invesigative, hunt for crumbs and shoot accordingly. You do not say "well, it is too much chance, so let us just kill someone else and let the cop get more results." So why did scum kill mortfeld on n1 instead of the doublevoter if that is their thought? You are assuming the scum team is very bad.