Mini Normal 1914 - Sunshine Mafia - Game Over

[TwoFace]

Can somebody show me something btd did prior to claiming that could be described as protown? I've asked before and never got a response, Not even from Btd.

The people who say he's town. This is your one and only chance. Give me something not related to his claim that shows town behavior.

[Nachomamma8]

otherwise he makes good points in that lynching synd today could clear the pool later and leave us with a mislynch.

please elaborate on the good points that he made.

[MarioManiac4]

otherwise he makes good points in that lynching synd today could clear the pool later and leave us with a mislynch.

please elaborate on the good points that he made.

a) Syndesis flipping scum today could help us nail scum tomorrow with a mislynch.
b) I went looking through the Mininormal archive for 6 PRs, and despite thinking 6 weak PRs was reasonableish, I couldn't even find anything. I think there's probably scum in the PRs, and that scum is likely to be Syndesis. If we lynch Syndesis today, that gives us all the advantages of lynching her d4, but we get an extra mislynch to deal with, without having to worry about LyLo (which kinda sucks)
It's not enough to make me want to vote Syndesis right now, but it's definitely enough to make me rethink IAI's alignment for pushing it in the first place.

[Syndesis]

I mean, I will, but I don't know how much more I can take.

To be clear, if you aren't having any fun in this game then I'd highly recommend a replace out instead of making a suboptimal play out of frustration. While it's annoying to have to find replacements and it would suck to lose you when you're my single thread of sanity in this game, at the end of the day this is a game and if it's getting to the point where you're not sure how much more of it you can handle I think you should replace out for your own sake.

I'm fine, moderate irritation/the strong desire to throw people into fountains is par for the course for me.

[Nachomamma8]

a) Syndesis flipping scum today could help us nail scum tomorrow with a mislynch.

This is the point that you specifically said you thought about and didn't like earlier.

[Nachomamma8]

Syndesis, really need you to talk over your scumreads with me at this point; deadline is on hold right now but I'd really like not to drag this on forever if I can help it.

[MarioManiac4]

I realised what IAI meant with the associatives. Before, I didn't realise that it meant that us lynching off a correct premise on Syndesis is better than lynching without knowledge of her alignment. I don't want to lynch Syn today still but I don't want to lynch IAI either.

[Syndesis]

Syndesis, really need you to talk over your scumreads with me at this point; deadline is on hold right now but I'd really like not to drag this on forever if I can help it.

Alright yeah lemme get settled, do you have anything specific or should I just start yelling loudly into the abyss?

[TwoFace]

Can we end this day already? I'm not allowed to replace out and I'm taking a break from this site.

[Syndesis]

it's very hard to disentangle my read on anyone this game from me being annoyed at them

[MarioManiac4]

what if everyone was given a town role pm but is actually scum

[TwoFace]

it's very hard to disentangle my read on anyone this game from me being annoyed at them

Every single player alive is annoying me but I'm able to determine who I think is scum and town.

In the end though it really doesn't matter. 95% chance town loses this game and it's town's own fault.

[Syndesis]

offhand I am inclined to trust BTD's claim over Mario's? but tonethings from Mario are a lot stronger, idk

also, mafia vig hasn't been normal since like. the last time I played here

actually yeah I think I'm going to eat IaI, bias correction be damned!

[Syndesis]

relatedly, Nacho, I think you were townreading IaI and would like to hear more about that?

[Fro99er]

vc

[TwoFace]

Btd and syn have been basically connected all game. Go back when btd out of the blue mentioned iai/syn. Despite syn playing worse, btd voted iai.

They are connected. How do you all not see that?

[Nachomamma8]

should I just start yelling loudly into the abyss?

I'd like you to talk about Dany and IaI and Mario more in depth but really I'd just like more things in general, so whatever you have to talk about is fine. I'll elaborate on IaI when I have a little more time.

[Nachomamma8]

Also @IaI:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

Mafia vigilantes are not normal.

[Vedith]

That's what I thought with it.
VOTE: BTD

I'm not happy voting Mario either.

[BTD6_maker]

Btd and syn have been basically connected all game. Go back when btd out of the blue mentioned iai/syn. Despite syn playing worse, btd voted iai.

They are connected. How do you all not see that?

"Despite syn playing worse"

I voted IaI because I came to the conclusion that it was IaI, not Syndesis, who was worse from that exchange. Thus it was actually "I came to the conclusion that IaI played worse, and I voted them". If I thought Syndesis was worse, I would have voted them.

[TwoFace]

But syn did play worse. Iai gave reasons. Syn did not. You even mention syn not giving reasons.

You voted iai.

Common sense says person give reasons > person not giving reasons

You voted the person not giving reasons.

So no. You did not vote the way you should have if you were town imo.

Try again

[BTD6_maker]

But syn did play worse. Iai gave reasons. Syn did not. You even mention syn not giving reasons.

You voted iai.

Common sense says person give reasons > person not giving reasons

You voted the person not giving reasons.

So no. You did not vote the way you should have if you were town imo.

Try again

While it is true that giving reasons is better than not giving reasons, you are assuming that it's the only thing that matters and that someone who does not give reasons but is overall much more Townish is worse than someone very scummy who gives reasons.

[TwoFace]

Syn hasn't done anything protown all game. It's day 3 now and he hasn't. Please stop trying to justify a bad vote.

Even if you are town, that vote was bad. Your reasoning is bad.

[I Am Innocent]

offhand I am inclined to trust BTD's claim over Mario's? but tonethings from Mario are a lot stronger, idk

also, mafia vig hasn't been normal since like. the last time I played here

actually yeah I think I'm going to eat IaI, bias correction be damned!

When I'm the only player to die next night, autolynch syndesis. Do not hesitate or believe any other crap like scum is setting up syndesis.

Nacho is prob syn's teammate. Vedith may be the third if it's not btd6. If there was a bus vote on syn it was vediths, and the way he got off the wagon was bad.

TF and Dany are town.

unvote syndesis
Vote BTD6

Pretty sure that's L-1

[I Am Innocent]

And heading to MyLo or LyLo a town vig would never announce there shot if they were hoping for a clear. Cause scum need the same amount of lynches with a 1 shot vig or not in a 13 player game. In that case they could withhold a NK to set up a mislynch. Just more proof syn is not a town vig...