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[Boonskiies]

I guess what I’m asking is, can you see WhyMafia just doing those things as town? You can still scum read him for that, or feel he’s scum. I just want the answer to that question.

[Boonskiies]

Tchill’s also.

[Apple Jack]

And I can never town read or trust a player who thinks that is a good reason to town read somebody. That’s not playing a mafia.

Why isn’t that a good reason to town read someone? It’s done me right before. It’s not just one thing that adds up, I look at the entirety of the play, so a bunch of little things add up. At the same time, I’ve had people be my top town read, and then I was able to go back and look through things and change it to my top scum read, and push them. I did this to Tchill before when he was scum.

I went back over Why’s ISO, and I still see town Why. Scum still have to push a scum agenda, and hindsight makes everything make sense, so having the foresight to jump on top of that is actually good reasons to town read someone.

Cause scum can fake it very easily. You have to judge the overall play and literally nothing points to town imo.

[Apple Jack]

I guess what I’m asking is, can you see WhyMafia just doing those things as town? You can still scum read him for that, or feel he’s scum. I just want the answer to that question.

No I can’t see a town player doing them.

[Boonskiies]

And I can never town read or trust a player who thinks that is a good reason to town read somebody. That’s not playing a mafia.

Why isn’t that a good reason to town read someone? It’s done me right before. It’s not just one thing that adds up, I look at the entirety of the play, so a bunch of little things add up. At the same time, I’ve had people be my top town read, and then I was able to go back and look through things and change it to my top scum read, and push them. I did this to Tchill before when he was scum.

I went back over Why’s ISO, and I still see town Why. Scum still have to push a scum agenda, and hindsight makes everything make sense, so having the foresight to jump on top of that is actually good reasons to town read someone.

Cause scum can fake it very easily. You have to judge the overall play and literally nothing points to town imo.

I am judging the overall play. Nothing points to scum for me. What play by him benefits ScumWhy? Even his associations are non existent. He would probably be null for me if I wasn’t familiar with Why/the pressure on him also makes me town read him securely.

[Apple Jack]

Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?

1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.

[Boonskiies]

I guess what I’m asking is, can you see WhyMafia just doing those things as town? You can still scum read him for that, or feel he’s scum. I just want the answer to that question.

No I can’t see a town player doing them.

Fair enough. This I can accept. I don’t agree with it, but I think it makes sense coming from TownDerpy.

[Apple Jack]

I am judging the overall play. Nothing points to scum for me. What play by him benefits ScumWhy? Even his associations are non existent. He would probably be null for me if I wasn’t familiar with Why/the pressure on him also makes me town read him securely.

Well since nobody is scum reading him despite his scummy play, I’d say it’s benefit him quite well.

[Apple Jack]

Way too many people using meta as a defense. That’s a slippery slope

[Boonskiies]

Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?

1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.

Yeah, Alisae’s probably scum with Michael, though trying to pocket Why. I don’t like how she isn’t pushing Michael yet was putting him as scum with Sub, and Michael was posting.

Also curious as to why Tchill is targeting Why over Alisae, but I’m generally town reading Tchill. He’s more submissive in confrontations when he’s scum.

[Boonskiies]

Way too many people using meta as a defense. That’s a slippery slope

Yeah, I agree, even though I’ve been using it heavily. I have a town read everyone until I have a reason not to kind of play style, and meta for me just makes it so I won’t scum read for NAI, if that makes sense. I mainly use it early game, before I can point out awkward trajectories in people.

It helps that I think scum is in Michael/Alisae/Sub/Assemble. At least two. And I don’t see them as partnered with Why.

[Apple Jack]

I can’t find my big summary post I made earlier about why but for starters. Why would a town player fake ignorance?

Can anyone explain that? It was intentionally done. That’s not a bad player. That’s somebody doing something calculated

[WhyMafia]

Maybe because I never faked interest and you're so confirmation biased that you don't want to think about that possibility

[Alisae]

Like my entire scum pool is in his town pool.

then your reads are bad

[WhyMafia]

@Boon I agree with you in alisae
I do like your explanation on your read in Derpy, I can see what you mean. I can vote tchill/alisae
Need to look more closely on Sub

[Alisae]

Derpy I am not nor ever voting Why in this current gamestate baring a cop guilty
Claiming miller then taking it back never comes from scum it is extremely risky and sloppy to do that so fucking STOP

Let’s pretend I have a guilty

Btw using that to town read somebody is legitimately the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. You are basically saying scum can fake claim Miller and retract it and you will town read them.

Scum or town read the play. Not the stupid trolling antics. Why’s play has been god awful.

I'm saying they wouldn't do it in the first place

[Apple Jack]

Like my entire scum pool is in his town pool.

then your reads are bad

Based on how each of them have played this game. I’d say no.

Now if you have inside info you could of course be saying this.

[Apple Jack]

I'm saying they wouldn't do it in the first place

That’s not true. I’ve seen scum do it before. I’ve also seen scum fake claim Miller and not retract.

Judge the play, not the stupid rvs antics

[WhyMafia]

Im town reading Toranga/Michael slot
Where is the post that explains the scum read on that slot?

[WhyMafia]

Regarding assemble, I'd much rather have him be replaced. Isn't he due for a prod

[Apple Jack]

So looking at the wagon and d1 play I’ll vote anyone of the following why/taco/dunker. Boon is also an acceptable lynch. And I’ll just leave Alisae at null.

[Apple Jack]

Where the hell did this bump topic thing come from? lol

[Michael22Omega]

Why is it more likely to come from scum than poor town play, though? Why is it AI to you?

1. I don’t really know how anyone can tell the difference without a flip.
2. If a player does multiple scummy things that points to scum. He’s done multiple things.
3. Literally nobody is pointing to his play and showing how it’s town motivated. Alisae is town reading him for something he did in RVS which is absolutely terrible.

Yeah, Alisae’s probably scum with Michael, though trying to pocket Why. I don’t like how she isn’t pushing Michael yet was putting him as scum with Sub, and Michael was posting.

Also curious as to why Tchill is targeting Why over Alisae, but I’m generally town reading Tchill. He’s more submissive in confrontations when he’s scum.

So you think I'm bussing when I push Alisae but say it's scummy when Alisae isn't voting me?

Im town reading Toranga/Michael slot
Where is the post that explains the scum read on that slot?

There is no real post, Alisae just wrote me as scum with sub and that's it.

[Dunkerdoodles]

i could trust alisae
or i could go with my gut and VOTE: Boonskiies

[Mulch]

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