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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:56 am

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If it was anyone else I’d be concerned about this persistent credit grabbing
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:00 am

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In post 1775, profii wrote:If it was anyone else I’d be concerned about this persistent credit grabbing
I'm not credit grabbing. I was unjustifiably attacked. What should I do?
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:57 am

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Let it go and get to work scumhunting.
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:03 pm

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In post 1776, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 1775, profii wrote:If it was anyone else I’d be concerned about this persistent credit grabbing
I'm not credit grabbing. I was unjustifiably attacked. What should I do?
Considering that the entirety of your provided reasoning for thinking Quick was scum was because they decided to replace out, and nobody else agreed with you, I'd say you shouldn't be trying to take credit for getting scum lynched when all you did was barely avoid the noose yourself. Inferno did more than you for that lynch.
And yes, you were credit grabbing.
In post 1755, TwoInAMillion wrote:Just because I don't write 10000 word posts doesn't mean I'm not helpful. I've already lynched one scum so that is a blatant lie.

@Pine got distracted before finishing my ISO list, I'll post what I have so far but unless if Firebringer hardclaims Cop again my vote is sticking with NSG for now. They tried to push the wagon towards people who were explicitly not our confirmed scum twice.
In post 1740, Pine wrote:
northsidegal
texcat
Egg
Archwing
Nictis
Flubbernugget
Firebringer
RedFlavor
Alright. I'll try to bring up relevant points from each from ISO. I might miss some of the accusations if they don't respond to it though.

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Spoiler:
: Interesting response to Pine and Fire scumreading her.
: Early reads list, Nulled both of the known scum (Nos: Thirty posts into ISO at this point, LUV: 23 posts)
: Explains scumread on Gamma. Considering Gamma's aggressive defense of FL at this time, makes sense to me.
(Inferno): Have also only been in a newbie with NSG, so I'm mostly assuming it's a change in how they play since then, but I can confirm that she is a lot less inquisitive in this game (And accusatory) than the one I was in. Explained by
: Scumreads Mulch's entrance (Personal thoughts, his entrance
was
bullshit)but claims to be willing to let it slide for their town read.
: Updated reads list. Of note is Gamma being put to Townread for apparently falling back into their Town meta. Scumleans are Pine, Beef, and Mulch. Known scum have yet to move from Null block.
1140: This one needs to be read, so grabbing quote.
In post 1140, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1125, Egg wrote:
In post 1106, TwoInAMillion wrote:I think it's more likely he didn't like drawing scum and was looking for an excuse to replace out.
Got my links?
sheeping kmd, the voice of reason.

VOTE: tiam

i'd also be willing to follow mulch onto flubbernugget, although he's still voting nosferatu?
Major red flag thrown here, Nos was their null read and they have NOT commented on them before. Reading this post, I'm definitely voting NSG now.
: Updated readslist while crossreferencing ongoing wagons.
: Doesn't believe TIAM to be scum, prefers TIAM lynch to LUV/Quick/Mordin lynch. Second time NSG tried to push the wagon away from our confirmed scum.

Conclusion: Definite scum from actions, the only thing they have defending them is Firebringer saying they're Town. VOTE: NorthSideGal If NSG flips scum, and the pattern holds, then the other scum is Theta Alpine, or Ausuka.

texcat
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: Entirely NAI post from their predecessor. Also the only post from their predecessor.
: Ties Nos and Firebringer together as scum, says their unvotes seem scummy. Also votes the LUV slot here.
: Gives several Town reads related to the wagons and puts their suspicion on the LUV slot in a way that perfectly mirrors Flavor Leaf's reasoning without access to the same information Flavor Leaf has. (Not a neighbor) Those together make me feel like it's an appeal to authority and bussing Quick. Ignoring that however, they raise a really good point about RedFlavor's voting reasoning being off.
: Encouraging Theta to put their vote on Mordin instead of on a vanity wagon because of time constraints.

Conclusion: Personal suspicion remains for 1390, but I can see why Theta would have stuck them as Town Leaning now.

Egg (Empty)
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Archwing (Empty)
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Nictis(To avoid bias, will not quote myself here) (Unfinished, was sticking any points where people read me as Town or Scum or show some level of association in.)
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(LUV): Very early Townread on me. (Relevant? has LUV defending Nosferatu from Inferno, OTOH has LUV TR Two)
(Nosferatu): Nos defends me before getting FL saying he thinks I'm town.
Town reads on me from: LUV (55) NSG (390, lean)


Flubber (Empty)
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Fire (Empty)
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Red (Barely started)
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299(LUV): Sheeps Red on voting Nosferatu. I don't see anything here, others might.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:25 pm

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You aren’t voting someone who has a cop innocent on them.
Vote someone else
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:35 pm

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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:36 pm

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In post 1780, Mulch wrote:waa
What
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:36 pm

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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:10 pm

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I mostly do my own research, Nictis, but your eagerness to lobby me is noted.
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:22 pm

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Mulch if ur confused, I claimed cop with a info on NSG
And nictis is voting my inno.

And he knows I claimed a inno on her with him saying “only thing she has going for her is Ifire says she is Town”

Like I don’t think nictis is scummy for this, but’s it’s really dumb to say that without realizing that it isn’t worth pushing today given how it will self resolve if not tomorrow, a few days.

Scum cannot have me keep inno players or finding them so they need to kill me.

And if I am scum I can’t just inno my scumbuds (I mean I could but it’s really risky play later in game)

So me and nsg are of table for foreseeable future
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:31 pm

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Btw on setup spec

There’s a cop and a vigi

That’s alot of town power and the scum so far haven’t showed a lot to make up for that
So I am thinking either this setup is massively townsided or best scum roles haven’t flipped.

Probably massively townsided.

I guess Pine has a limited vig but my cop isn’t limited
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:32 pm

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In post 1784, Firebringer wrote:Mulch if ur confused, I claimed cop with a info on NSG
And nictis is voting my inno.
In post 1778, Nictis wrote:I'll post what I have so far but
unless if Firebringer hardclaims Cop again
my vote is sticking with NSG for now. They tried to push the wagon towards people who were explicitly not our confirmed scum twice.
Considering the confidence you gave for your own role, and the other fakeclaims to 'Confirm' Townreads, I think I was justified in asking you to confirm this is your claim.

VOTE: texcat
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:35 pm

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I don't have access to your logs, but I see NSG defending both of the people we have confirmed to be scum and got to see Mulch claim Mason so people would sheep him more. Just wanted to make sure this wasn't you getting people to look at your scumreads instead.
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:36 pm

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I mean.

I said I was going to target NSG yesterday as she was my strongest scumread
Next day I say she inno.

Really think it should be obvious I am serious?
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:37 pm

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Fire, why did you out your result so early? Why did you not wait for pressure on either yourself or NSG?
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:39 pm

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I claimed cop yesterday because I knew scum would think I was faking and not kill me
I claimed my results because I don’t care about crumbing and want record straight
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:41 pm

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Nosferatu, a flipped scum, knows my tendency to fake claim.
I tricked him hard last time he was scum against me by faking a guilty on his teammate and getting him lynched.

So I have no doubt scum didnt believe my claim.
Even now they may or may not.

I probably will still be here maybe two more days if not lynched
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:43 pm

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TwoInAMillion
Mulch

Theta Alpine
Pine
Gamma Emerald

Inferno390

Ausuka
northsidegal
Firebringer


texcat
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Beefster

profii


That's 9/17 of the playerbase in the Townbloc. Assuming we didn't screw up any of those Townbloc recruitments, we can lynch/vig outside the Townbloc for an easy win. Copping the italics will also narrow the sorting.

PE: Hell, I didn't believe your claim either. Protective on Fire.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:44 pm

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Understood. Thanks for That.

Are you just a normal cop?
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:44 pm

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<Meant to post this first. Damn browser tabs>

Okay.

If the Cop claim and inno is a hardclaim, I'm comfortable adding Firebringer and NSG fully into the Townbloc.

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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:45 pm

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I'd like to propose that red flavor gets the lynch today, and beef gets the vig.

Pedit. I'd still really like to hear from NSG about all of this.
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:46 pm

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In post 1793, Archwing wrote:Understood. Thanks for That.

Are you just a normal cop?
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 1795, Archwing wrote:I'd like to propose that red flavor gets the lynch today, and beef gets the vig.

Pedit. I'd still really like to hear from NSG about all of this.
personally i want flubber and beef but i could be swayed
Firebringer wrote:I claimed cop yesterday because I knew scum would think I was faking and not kill me
I claimed my results because I don’t care about crumbing and want record straight
yeah the whole did i claim vig or cop bit was pretty good
i still have doubts as to your claim myself

so here is my proposition
lynch on flubber/red flavor
vig on beefster
cop on profii
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:32 pm

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Why isn't

uh

north p0osting
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:55 pm

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In post 1798, Mulch wrote:Why isn't

uh

north p0osting
Probably because they're v/la?
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