Mini Normal 2016 | Otters vs. Penguins | Endgame

[Garmr]

Dammit PP I was hoping there would be a misguided quickhammer attempt so we could read into the motives. You ruin everything

I'm willing to put my foot down on bbt being town. I'd say it's necessarily a nos/Ari/teacher team

VOTE: Nos

I'm curious how I would be on a scumteam with Nos after this. Enlighten me?

Wifom nos is making Wifom

[Garmr]

You misunderstand. I didn't realize we has masons, but that's awesome. They often replace tosn investigatives and this strengthens my belief that Nos is Scum Invest. I am merely saying they should not be coloured in!

Also they usually replace Cop specifically so Oddnight Cop and Masons is odd.

no, YOU misunderstand. for you, ari, to consider a scenario where the masons are scum and nos is also scum, you are NECESSARILY considering a scenario where town's only power is odd-night cop and jailkeeper, minus the negative utility of an ascetic who can't be protected or investigated. in your opinion is that balanced?

im so confused by what you just said here

Nos, who do you believe is the scumteam

it would pretty necessarily be some combination of {aristo,

garmr,

bbt/teacher}

I'm town but

VOTE: nos

I was juggling between You and BBT and was hesitant to place a vote on either slot. But this helps make up my mind.

If you're town and scum quick lynch you, next time you'll have to learn to read me properly and hopefully change your meta so it more informative because you really contributed nothing this game, which I consider detrimental to town.

If you are scum then you should of left things how they were. leaving me with the unease between you and bbt. Also I think You should of been lynched day 2 and it was my fault for tchill lynch over you day 3.

Wow that's broken English shouldn't type when i'm tired.

[Performer]

Ok I think I've seen enough. tracker is nothing novel for mafia to fakeclaim, and having 2 masons, an odd night cop further balanced by an ascetic, with a jk, is enough town power to balance against a scum team with a tracker and 2 other roles. I think the scum team has strong abilities or they have every member carrying an ability.

After reviewing geo 's ISO, I think the team would be nos, teacher, bbt, in that order of confidence. Teacher's 1704 post on d4, is just ridiculous.

VOTE: nosferatu

[wavemode]

I don't think teacher and bbt are ever partners here. Review that carefully

Ari's play, even just today, is scummy for not recognizing I'm conftown, throwing suspicion at the masons and also tacitly assuming nos is a tracker even though there is no evidence of that

[wavemode]

If you look at nos's preferred scumteam you will see even he recognizes the pairing is implausible. Those two aren't his partners together, or else why not just list them together and leave garmr out of it

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 4.03 - FINAL

Nosferatu

(5): Aristophanes, Garmr, BlueBloodedToffee, wavemode, Performer

Aristophanes

(1): Nosferatu

No Lynch

(1): teacher

Not Voting

(1): Not_Mafia

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-07-21 17:00:00)

Mod Notes:

• Performer V/LA on weekends
• teacher V/LA on weekends

[PenguinPower]

Day 4 Lynch

Nosferatu,

Mafia Goon

,

lynched Day 4.

Night 4 starts now and will end in (expired on 2018-07-11 12:00:00)

[PenguinPower]

Night 4 Kill

wavemode,

Vanilla Townie

,

killed Night 4.

Day 5 starts now and will end in (expired on 2018-07-25 12:00:00)

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 5.01

Not Voting

(6): Garmr, Performer, Aristophanes, teacher, BlueBloodedToffee, Not_Mafia

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-07-25 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

• Performer V/LA on weekends
• teacher V/LA on weekends

[Garmr]

ok It's prob teacher and ari but I want to through vote counts and interactions.

[Not_Mafia]

Intending to vote teacher

[Garmr]

Intending to vote teacher

That's the safest option in my mind.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Teacher or Ari for me.

Ari would be preference.

[Garmr]

Teacher or Ari for me.

Ari would be preference.

I am a bit paranoid about you at the moment, maybe you can clarify some things. Will post after I Surmise the issues I'm having.

[teacher]

Intending to vote teacher

That's the safest option in my mind.

Seriously, why? Ive been a wagon D1 and D2, and each time asked for a reason only not to get one.

[Garmr]

Actually scratch that BBT After reading your day 2 again I can see how you perceived Tommy and why you pushed back against the nos lynch.

[Garmr]

Intending to vote teacher

That's the safest option in my mind.

Seriously, why? Ive been a wagon D1 and D2, and each time asked for a reason only not to get one.

Process of elimination I'm town, we have 2 confirmed town in masons. I'm pretty sure BBT is town becuase nos's 1502 implies he thinks

BBT is the mason

and I don't think his that good at setting up wifom. If I was in nos shoes and bbt was a scum buddy I would do this to but nos isn't me. The intention seems to be rolefishing. Also nos's fake tracker claim was pretty awful and unbelievable so This clears doubts up a bit for me.

Nos's 314 is defending you. Your 635 seems to be treading lightly with nos so he doesn't incriminate himself. Also nos tried to put you in a solid town block in post 1477

{aristo,

garmr,

bbt

/teacher}

This was final scum team list I know i'm town and BBT probally town and with so many confirmed town there's no one else he could scum read. Him putting you at the back was him subconsciously protecting you as well.


VOTE: Teacher

[Performer]

Based on rereads, wave could've been right - he mentioned nos , ari , teacher. That also makes sense why he was killed over me and not_mafia , because he was likely right.

VOTE: teacher

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: teacher

Hammer away

[Aristophanes]

ok It's prob teacher and ari but I want to through vote counts and interactions.

Teacher or Ari for me.

Ari would be preference.

Literally How!?!?

[teacher]

Votecount 1.13 - FINAL

Invisibility

(7): Garmr,

Performer

,

Tchill13

,

Tommy Egan

, Gustavo,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

, BlueBloodedToffee

Gosrir Elmer Odels

(2):

Invisibility

,

Nosferatu

Performer

(1):

wavemode

Gustavo

(1): teacher

ByronVilla

(1):

Lefty

Votecount 2.09 - FINAL

Tommy Egan

(7): BlueBloodedToffee,

wavemode

,

Nosferatu

, teacher,

Performer

,

Tchill13

,

Ircher

Nosferatu

(3):

Tommy Egan

,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

, Aristophanes

Performer

(2): Garmr,

Not_Mafia

Votecount 3.05 - FINAL

Tchill13

(6): Garmr,

Nosferatu

,

Not_Mafia

,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

,

wavemode

, teacher

Nosferatu

(2): BlueBloodedToffee,

Performer

Not Voting

(2):

Tchill13

, Aristophanes

Garmr, I appreciate the reasoning and get why Im PoE suspect, but Im missing a pretty key step -- How are the masons conf town? Have they shown buried hints in posts? Have they ever voted together to magnify the voting power of supposed known!town? Did Nos flip scum!PR, as one would expect to counterbalance masons+protective+cop?

[Garmr]

Votecount 1.13 - FINAL

Invisibility

(7): Garmr,

Performer

,

Tchill13

,

Tommy Egan

, Gustavo,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

, BlueBloodedToffee

Gosrir Elmer Odels

(2):

Invisibility

,

Nosferatu

Performer

(1):

wavemode

Gustavo

(1): teacher

ByronVilla

(1):

Lefty

Votecount 2.09 - FINAL

Tommy Egan

(7): BlueBloodedToffee,

wavemode

,

Nosferatu

, teacher,

Performer

,

Tchill13

,

Ircher

Nosferatu

(3):

Tommy Egan

,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

, Aristophanes

Performer

(2): Garmr,

Not_Mafia

Votecount 3.05 - FINAL

Tchill13

(6): Garmr,

Nosferatu

,

Not_Mafia

,

Gosrir Elmer Odels

,

wavemode

, teacher

Nosferatu

(2): BlueBloodedToffee,

Performer

Not Voting

(2):

Tchill13

, Aristophanes

Garmr, I appreciate the reasoning and get why Im PoE suspect, but Im missing a pretty key step -- How are the masons conf town? Have they shown buried hints in posts? Have they ever voted together to magnify the voting power of supposed known!town? Did Nos flip scum!PR, as one would expect to counterbalance masons+protective+cop?

Set up sounds balanced to me.

Jail keeper could fuck up cop while leaving masons untouched,cop was limited and we had no even night cop claim, Everyone else is VT except the ascetic which would fuck town over even more. tbh town did not need a testicle in this set up.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wasn't teacher a counter wagon to Nos at some point?

I'll be getting to this as soon as I can - Teacher is a good lynch but I think Aristo is even better.

[Garmr]

Wasn't teacher a counter wagon to Nos at some point?

I'll be getting to this as soon as I can - Teacher is a good lynch but I think Aristo is even better.

Looking through it.

Votecount 2.04

teacher

(4):

wavemode, Gosrir Elmer Odels, Tchill13,

BlueBloodedToffee

Nosferatu

(3):

Garmr, Tommy Egan, Performer

Aristophanes

(1): teacher

wavemode

(1):

Nosferatu

BlueBloodedToffee

(1): ByronVilla

ByronVilla

(1):

Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(1): Aristophanes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-07-05 09:00:00)

Mod Notes:

• Performer V/LA on weekends
• teacher V/LA on weekends

I think this where both wagons were pushing against each other. If you are town and you town read me That would mean that both wagons were full of town at this point.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That sorts that out then.

Intent to hammer Teacher.