NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Skygazer]

I think his latest lynchpool of {tw, me, xyzzy} seems kind of convenient and he doesn't really back it up with strong scumhunting. I don't really see much gamesolving at all, just a lot of reliance on his older reads and a healthy amount of AtE by offering himself up as a lynch (granted, there was a brief point in the game where I was just like "whatever I might as well be lynched" before stuff started to click so that's not the

strongest

tell...). I don't like that he brushes off his L-1 vote on Elbirn/A50 as a reaction test and I don't get why he's calling for the lynch/death of A50 (a townread of his) for the sake of sorting.

I've seen nothing town from him lately so his latest posts haven't changed my opinion

[Pine]

Posting on page 100 wheeeeeee

Working on a VC.

[profii]

-if you remove {Profii - a50} from the game you get the flips and you force the entire player list to focus on new issues as 95%+ of this game day has focussed on {p/a50} - if anyone is hiding in the wagon, they can’t just go back to it tomorrow.- by removing us 2, the plethora of PRs don’t have to be stupid and _prove_ one of us is scum/town - it can be applied to someone like xyzzy who is almost totally null- also, if TW helps us out by following this plan, it goes some way to showing he can be leashed which is great

If someone can tell me the downside to this then be my guest but no one has really come at me and told me why that's a bad idea - IMO I am looking at the game as a group of people. Just because my plan is not self serving, doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means I accept I can win from the dead thread. At this point I feel like I've created a bit of a distraction.

Even Taly who has been the main protagonist of my lynch, has only said it's his philosophy not to remove one's self from the game, also hinting I have scum meta (that's kinda cool, I didn't know )

However, in the quote, I think there are 3 tangible benefits for the rest of you there if you lynch & remove me and a50.

however, I concede that the game seems to have moved on from "we are only lynching me or a50 today" so I'll re-evaluate the gamestate soon
I'm surprised HWS has appeared in a couple of recent votes but I'll re-read, I'm not fully caught up.

[Andrius]

Honestly don't know how much I care right now so I'm AWOL for another day unless I start caring before then.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, have you read any of the game yet?

Just some of my predecessor's ISO to know what I should be looking at (plus current events)

Any response to this?

[Gamma Emerald]

~snip~

holy balls that's a lot of words, but I read some of them and the post sounds solid logic-wise
is sky a wagon rn?

[xyzzy]

That is a weaksause response. A good read doesn’t go back and contradict itself when re-examined. You’re far too old of a player to be saying that this sort of discrepancy just “happens.”

That’s enough to garner my vote.
VOTE: dramonic

I'm in the middle of putting together a reads list and I'm going through some of my old posts and I just noticed on day 1 I said this Inferno/dramonic interaction feels a little bussy and I think that might be worth pointing out again now that dramonic has flipped

[xyzzy]

anyway it makes zero sense to me that scum profii would be arguing on behalf of their own lynch. like 2477 as a scum post just makes zero sense to me

here is a reads list I composed by going through my previous posts and noting who I have thought is scummy throughout the game; note that in the case of Gamma Emerald at the very bottom that's mostly because of HitAlt who was the Most Scummy Of All and I don't really have a strong opinion regarding Gamma Emerald in that slot yet. even though he's down there at the bottom I don't think it makes any sense to lynch him until we have a better sense of him since it's possible HitAlt was just doing a really bad job of being town.

town
brassherald
MagnaofIllusion
Taly
Skygazer

Andrius
Elbirn
profii
Chickadee
Ausuka

Raskolnikov
HeWhoSwims

the worst
Inferno390
Gamma Emerald
mafia

[xyzzy]

btw Taly I'm honestly not sure if you're still misunderstanding this or not (I hope you're not intentionally antagonizing me? I honestly can't tell but that would be... super shitty of you so I hope that's not the case) but this is a fairly good article that would be worth checking out: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-use-gende ... 1821239054

[Gamma Emerald]

anyway it makes zero sense to me that scum profii would be arguing on behalf of their own lynch. like 2477 as a scum post just makes zero sense to me

here is a reads list I composed by going through my previous posts and noting who I have thought is scummy throughout the game; note that in the case of Gamma Emerald at the very bottom that's mostly because of HitAlt who was the Most Scummy Of All and I don't really have a strong opinion regarding Gamma Emerald in that slot yet. even though he's down there at the bottom I don't think it makes any sense to lynch him until we have a better sense of him since it's possible HitAlt was just doing a really bad job of being town.

town
brassherald
MagnaofIllusion
Taly
Skygazer

Andrius
Elbirn
profii
Chickadee
Ausuka

Raskolnikov
HeWhoSwims

the worst
Inferno390
Gamma Emerald
mafia

Okay this read on me is ass-tastic. No real analysis of my content despite me feeling like there's

something

to work with, and just spouting "HitAlt" wasn't town without any logic. This plus the fact I'm a claimed PR with considerable towncred make me really confident this is discrediting scum.

[Almost50]

And I am aware I could probably read the OP, but, let's be honest, I won't.

@Andrius: This is why I'm not explaining my stances. Things like these don't make sense to most of you, but this hits me as Town!brass talking.

Am I allowed to point out that scum!me would have at least pretended to read the OP?

No. I'm doing it for you though.

[brassherald]

Wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't Xyzzy use the word "we" to refer to themselves?

oh btw this game has given me another chance to use this image I made a long time ago

[Taly]

btw Taly I'm honestly not sure if you're still misunderstanding this or not (I hope you're not intentionally antagonizing me? I honestly can't tell but that would be... super shitty of you so I hope that's not the case) but this is a fairly good article that would be worth checking out: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-use-gende ... 1821239054

FUCK, I typed he/she in reference to you again

sorry I'm being an insensitive ass here x-x I haven't been thinking about the wording of my posts lately, I've been close to yelling at the playerlist tbh, but that's not an excuse on my part.

I'll make a mental note on it for the future. I feel super shitty. I usually am more aware of things like this.

[Raskolnikov]

think xyzzy is more showing work for showing sake than trying to accomplish or work towards anything
admittedly this is tonal but i dont feel like behind everything he actually cares about the lynch

[Inferno390]

Xyzzy
Please explain your scumreads on TW and myself.

[Pine]

Wait, wait, wait. Shouldn't Xyzzy use the word "we" to refer to themselves?

oh btw this game has given me another chance to use this image I made a long time ago

"They" may also be used as a single-person non-gendered pronoun, and does not carry the baggage of calling a person "it."

I'm going to set aside some time tonight to update the flavor and give a VC. Not much has happened since the last one, but sufficient time has passed for it.

[brassherald]

So, by the way, since this is one of the few games I'm in where I talked about this, and it is not at all game related, the official resolution of my relationship was that we decide to cancel the wedding and try to move forward as friends. I also came to terms with the end of our relationship so will not need any time off, but may end up a little grumpier in tone than usual as I move on and prepare myself to re-enter the dating pool. Much like a job search, I am not looking forward to that.

Now, let's lynch someone.

[Pine]

==> Vote Count 2.5 <==

With 15 votes in play, it's 8 to lynch!

Flavor suspended for now.

[L-7]

Almost50 - xyzzy

[L-8]

MagnaofIllusion -

[L-8]

Ausuka -

[L-8]

brassherald -

[L-8]

the worst -

[L-8]

Gamma Emerald - HeWhoSwims

[L-6]

Skygazer - MagnaofIllusion, profii

[L-8]

Inferno390 -

[L-8]

Chickadee -

[L-5]

xyzzy - Andrius, Raskolnikov, Gamma Emerald

[L-5]

HeWhoSwims - Taly, brassherald, the worst

[L-8]

Raskolnikov -

[L-8]

Taly -

[L-8]

Andrius -

[L-5]

Profii - Skygazer, Chickadee, Almost50

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- Inferno390, Ausuka

Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-29 15:00:00)

[Chickadee]

This day is dragging, and people are becoming uninterested. Taly is on VLA just to stop posting because he's angry at the game state. I feel like we have a good enough POE at this point to go ahead and flip within our lynch pool.

xyzzy, A50, profii. Let's consolidate on one.

[brassherald]

Why not HWS, chick?

[Gamma Emerald]

holy cheez whiz the votes are split
Can everyone list off their top 3 scumreads so we can have some consolidation?
For me it's xyzzy, skygazer, and I guess out of the other wagons I see HWS is the one I object least to so I'll put that as a third for now
PEdit: well chickadee is town to me now

[MagnaofIllusion]

Phone post but I agree that we need to consolidate. Given I am getting no traction on Sky I’m moving to
xyzzy who Sky is defending.

VOTE: Xyzzy

[Chickadee]

I think we're stretching ourselves thin. But let's go ahead and add HWS to the list. Just consolidate and flip someone. Anyone. I think we have a lot of good reasons to flip any of them.

[Almost50]

You know what I think? I think no matter whom I vote their wagon is just going to gradually disintegrate and vanish.

VOTE: xyzzy

This is L-3 btw. Prove me wrong.

[Ausuka]

I wish I had coherent reads this game so I could talk about my top scumreads.

I feel that profii's town? I agree with xyzzy about him and also think that xyzzy feels town in their recent catch-up. Particularly I would say the profii's defense is accurate and non-survivalist.

Can someone explain why popcorn would be helpful? To me it seems like a terrible idea that gives scum a chance to weasel out of the fruit vend.

VOTE: HWS feels the best of these three wagons. His play has been very meh in d1 and the dram vote is the only factor in his favour. It's possible scum saw the dram wagon and voted him up to claim so the wagon would go away and we would lynch town.