Mini Normal 2023 - Game Over

[Garmr]

my reads were on point this game

Pretty much I kinda smash,crashed and somehow lynched scum.

[Titus]

I wish he hadn't said 3-shot bulletproof, I would have claimed mason if he hadn't made it totally unbelievable

The iso of both of you made it bad. Can't run around FoSing Mason partners.

[Titus]

So all these PRs versus 3 goons...sounds fair....

[Hiraki]

Yeah, I don't like this setup

[Titus]

Seems to be an MS trend. Let town button mash to win.

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you guys think my fakeclaim (Town-informed Hider) was implausible from an objective pov? I feel like I still have a hard time understanding what does or does not make for a plausible fakeclaim in this site meta. Like what am I supposed to do when roles sound like "loyal neighborizor"... I kinda went out of my way to make my fakeclaim sound more convoluted just because it seemed like every claim was weird and limited but that really backfired.

Crazy != viable
I got burned by this HAAAAAARD.

[Garmr]

The modding in this game was superb. Through the set up needs to be looked at.

[Garmr]

I also think town got caught up on power roles being real or not.

If it was just titus's role and 1 of hikarai or lockes/unabombers then I feel like this game would of been more balanced.

[UnaBombaH]

I think I said it multiple times before.. absolutely NO REASON to base reads or lynches solely on claims or any assumed "balance".

Well played guys, I was just a tourist here but whatever.

Good modding Dunn!

[Garmr]

when are we getting the scum thread

[popopopopopopo]

i doubt there is much of interest there

[Krazy]

It's mostly just me putting up gifs of busses

[Garmr]

It's mostly just me putting up gifs of busses

That sounds awesome.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm fine releasing it

[Krazy]

Gamma why did you abandon me anyway

I obviously needed your help with the fakeclaim

[Dunnstral]

Neighborhood: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=76915
Mafia (Will be open in around 6 hours): viewtopic.php?f=90&t=76914

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma why did you abandon me anyway

I obviously needed your help with the fakeclaim

I got bored. I thought I’d have fun, but it got very dry and by the point I replaced out the game felt stale throughout. Given the setup criticisms I probably wouldn’t have enjoyed myself if I stayed in.

[callforjudgement]

Review thread.

This setup… didn't quite go as I was expecting. (In particular, you'd normally expect the town power roles to die a lot faster than they did; the N3 no-kill may have had something to do with that, and the D1/N1 cycle went pretty much perfectly for town.)

In general I've been criticised somewhat for not including enough town power in my setups (note: the amount of town power that people actually need is rather higher than people think town needs), but it's possible that I overdid it here. That said, I think my main mistake was not realising the potential for a D1 JOAT claim, which is what broke things here (as it acted as something like a lightning rod on N1 which in turn was good for town). Generally speaking we assume there won't be early claims, because it's normally a bad idea, but it's important for setup designers to ensure that it's normally a bad idea to stop this sort of thing happening. Apart from that, I think the setup would have worked out. (Bear in mind that town's lynches and night actions were surprisingly accurate, so town logically "should have" won this either way.)

[implosion]

If you want to nominate this game or any people in it (moderator or players) for a scummy, please do!