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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:59 am

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Hugo - yours
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:03 am

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In post 1349, Performer wrote:Going to look through ISOs again.

Garm said he's ok with lynching anyone except nos. I was the counterwagon yesterday, garm was alright with mala, dave, me as sr.

And that inclusion of dave in d2, stands out . Not buying that it's a mistake from town.

So Unless there is some other news that pops up, I'm keeping the vote as is and working with Dave's sr list. I had garm sr then moved him to null in d1 I think.
Look he can't even get his story straight.
Anyone else that's not in my town list or in scum list is null
and I don't mind if they get lynched. Nosf on the other hand joins my town list just because his scum game felt way different.
I literally said null reads can get lynched. In my mind a nulls aren't as important as town reads and there loss isn't a biggee. I also said nosf joins my town list not everyone but nosf is lynachble.

Finally notice he has to hold onto this pathetic reason
Not buying that it's a mistake from town.
It because he scrambling for a reason to scum read me his not actually putting effort into the game. He never stated what was good about davesaz list either he dodged it completely. Why because his scum and his trash at it.
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:27 am

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if I seem a bit aggressive I'm annoyed at something else and venting here sorry.
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:50 am

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Eh no worries, I'm familiar with you garm and vice versa. But it does seem like AtE to me. :o
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:14 am

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I don’t see how that’s AtE at all.
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:26 am

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VOTE: Hugo
-didn't get voted at all day 1 which is weird 4 a nullslot.
-all the SK spec

about perf: is kinda hilariousness I don't really expect from scum. gonna give him a bit of space 4 now.

@garm here's the thing I promised on :
- all the straw about me supposedly thinking ya appeased dave and demanding consistency w that pow is weird, but eh.
could
be a misunderstand.
- why didn't I ask ya first? Because I was confused about what ya agreed w dave on, and didn't know I was confused. That's how confusion works.
- ya do get a paranoia-point 4 thinking I'm Thanatos.
- in fact I see now that ya explicitely
didn't
agree w which I thought ya did. --> This thing didn't have the edge I thought it did.
- kinda wanna resurrect dave so we can lynch him 4 that post. mod made an error. dave is scum. :P
- kiinda granting 'readslists are made by pressure by default', nut makes me itch.
- still weird that town!you goes digging for info he considers non-AI..
- "flowed artificial or genuinely evolved" <-- precise thing I tried to figure out about ya. not all this extra stuff ya crammed in.
- do like the observation about my thought being narrow. It's true and very intentional from me. caring about everything is caring about nothing.
- I took the time to make this short. Ya welcome.

i.e. ya lean scum, but not a high read.
Thoughts on ?
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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:34 am

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Performer, why did you move your vote off Tictac? You said he was your number one suspect if Malakittens flipped town. Then you voted Garmr for the weak reasons that Dave scumread him and he tried to fake a townslip. I think Garmr's mistake is not AI since he answered a question about why Dave died prior to making that post, I don't think he would have done that if he was planning on making a fake townslip. Also, Dave townread Tictac in and you evidently disagree with the conclusion he reached there, so why are you assuming he is right about Garmr and not Tictac?
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:31 am

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In post 1356, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Performer, why did you move your vote off Tictac? You said he was your number one suspect if Malakittens flipped town. Then you voted Garmr for the weak reasons that Dave scumread him and he tried to fake a townslip. I think Garmr's mistake is not AI since he answered a question about why Dave died prior to making that post, I don't think he would have done that if he was planning on making a fake townslip. Also, Dave townread Tictac in and you evidently disagree with the conclusion he reached there, so why are you assuming he is right about Garmr and not Tictac?
Why I moved off tic - to include a green flip (dave) in order of priority lynching, looks very specific to me and not something I think town garm does. So, I don't see this as a town mistake. As for why dave died, I thought it's because there's no protection in this setup. Garm went on to even speculate maybe there's a strongman - I've seen scum do things like this, speculate specific alternates and suddenly end of game, they end of having a strongman...I didn't even think of this other possibility but he brings it up so specifically.

Your last question sounds very...loaded for asking about dave and garm and tic.
I am trying to work with a green flip . I obviously disagreed with his read on tic on d1.
I'm working based off what I can gather about garm and what he came in with on d2 doesn't look like his town self.

I also am liking tic's meticulous, concise, and interesting d2 entrance (thanks for no wall!), something I didn't expect at all. Need to reread it a few times.
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also I just realized I made a mistake, garm did say GE & nos were his tr. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:46 am

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looking at the d2 interactions of GE trying to sort folks, I can see why garm has him tr. Based off nos's entry posts on d2 though, I highly disagree how garm has him as tr so easily.

based off a skim of hugo's ISO, maybe tic & ct are actually town? thinking out loud here.
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:55 am

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In post 1357, Performer wrote:
In post 1356, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Performer, why did you move your vote off Tictac? You said he was your number one suspect if Malakittens flipped town. Then you voted Garmr for the weak reasons that Dave scumread him and he tried to fake a townslip. I think Garmr's mistake is not AI since he answered a question about why Dave died prior to making that post, I don't think he would have done that if he was planning on making a fake townslip. Also, Dave townread Tictac in and you evidently disagree with the conclusion he reached there, so why are you assuming he is right about Garmr and not Tictac?
Why I moved off tic - to include a green flip (dave) in order of priority lynching, looks very specific to me and not something I think town garm does. So, I don't see this as a town mistake. As for why dave died, I thought it's because there's no protection in this setup. Garm went on to even speculate maybe there's a strongman - I've seen scum do things like this, speculate specific alternates and suddenly end of game, they end of having a strongman...I didn't even think of this other possibility but he brings it up so specifically.

Your last question sounds very...loaded for asking about dave and garm and tic.
I am trying to work with a green flip . I obviously disagreed with his read on tic on d1.
I'm working based off what I can gather about garm and what he came in with on d2 doesn't look like his town self.

I also am liking tic's meticulous, concise, and interesting d2 entrance (thanks for no wall!), something I didn't expect at all. Need to reread it a few times.
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also I just realized I made a mistake, garm did say GE & nos were his tr. :facepalm:
He keeps acting like he knows me well. I only ever remember having one game with him and I think he mentioned another game I can't remember. The fact you hold onto something that none alignment indicative and don't provide anything other than that as a case is really telling.
Your last question sounds very...loaded for asking about dave and garm and tic.
He accuses the question of being loaded but his answer is just pretty words. It doesn't actually address why his sheeping Dave list is town.
I also am liking tic's meticulous, concise, and interesting d2 entrance (thanks for no wall!)
This is a attempt at a deflection a quick shift to get away from answering the question. A sudden change of read because it's convenient for him.
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:05 am

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In post 1355, tictac wrote:VOTE: Hugo
-didn't get voted at all day 1 which is weird 4 a nullslot.
-all the SK spec

about perf: is kinda hilariousness I don't really expect from scum. gonna give him a bit of space 4 now.
When I moderated you, I saw how strange you were. But playing with you in a game, you are somehow stranger.
not sure to even begin with your reply to garm...but I see what you mean about hugo though I think he's not a null or town. his entrance on d2 is very fishy, including that sk speculation.

why you thought 1213 was funny and not something from scum, uh.....ok......
which led you giving me space instead of leaving a vote on me - would town be reevaluating on d2 like that, or scum that is pushing for a new wagon? that's 1 of the big questions for me.

G O A L S for d2 right now:
-sort tic & ct
-sort garm
-check ISOs
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:11 am

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Was going to make a joke about dogs(garmr) chewing bones)performer) But it ended up sounding sexual.
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:32 am

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In post 1357, Performer wrote: Why I moved off tic - to include a green flip (dave) in order of priority lynching, looks very specific to me and not something I think town garm does. So, I don't see this as a town mistake. As for why dave died, I thought it's because there's no protection in this setup. Garm went on to even speculate maybe there's a strongman - I've seen scum do things like this, speculate specific alternates and suddenly end of game, they end of having a strongman...I didn't even think of this other possibility but he brings it up so specifically.
so are u thinking garm is scumslipping here?
In post 1358, Performer wrote:based off a skim of hugo's ISO, maybe tic & ct are actually town? thinking out loud here.
lol elaborate please.....?




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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:38 am

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looking at notes made for d1, I want to inquire garm - is this game similar to that one game hosted by penguinpower? I think I was seeing something and still am seeing something, which would explain a lot of your interactions.
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:43 am

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hugo's & sheeping of garm onto dave & purr - interesting
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:44 am

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@hugo probably . And regarding your ISO, thinking out loud like I said, trying to piece together the puzzle pieces
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Post Post #1366 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:04 am

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In post 1362, Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
In post 1357, Performer wrote: Why I moved off tic - to include a green flip (dave) in order of priority lynching, looks very specific to me and not something I think town garm does. So, I don't see this as a town mistake. As for why dave died, I thought it's because there's no protection in this setup. Garm went on to even speculate maybe there's a strongman - I've seen scum do things like this, speculate specific alternates and suddenly end of game, they end of having a strongman...I didn't even think of this other possibility but he brings it up so specifically.
so are u thinking garm is scumslipping here?
In post 1358, Performer wrote:based off a skim of hugo's ISO, maybe tic & ct are actually town? thinking out loud here.
lol elaborate please.....?




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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:12 am

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In post 1355, tictac wrote:VOTE: Hugo
-didn't get voted at all day 1 which is weird 4 a nullslot.
-all the SK spec
Note: Edited to remove non-relevant parts of the quote that I am not responding to

I mean as far as I've seen Nosfu is basically universally null read and not pushed and you don't seem to have a problem with him.
The SK speculation is honestly Null, like he'd need to be a Serial Killer to make "speculation about SK" a valid point and I just don't really expect SK to be in this game given the trends in setup.
Also it was Gamma who brought up the SK stuff which confused Hugo into thinking SK was not only normal, but to be expected. It honestly makes sense why he would be fixated on a possible SK.
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:31 am

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VOTE: Performer


idk what to say some of u are on the drugs that i need
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:34 am

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In post 1330, Performer wrote:@Nos you have some messed up reads, are you town here? mala AND popo town? N O way.
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:01 pm

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do you want some Tramadol?
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:02 pm

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In post 1347, Lapsa wrote:@Saudade are you Hugo?
??
i dont get it
did anyone get it?
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:03 pm

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i mean CT keeps doing the same things over and over again, even at the beginning of the day his first impulse was to ask someone else what they think rather than share what they thought first

i feel like im the town jester whose nobody listens to but then at the game end thread im just going to roast all of you for being super right
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:38 pm

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In post 1372, Saudade wrote:i mean CT keeps doing the same things over and over again, even at the beginning of the day his first impulse was to ask someone else what they think rather than share what they thought first


i mean CT keeps doing the same things over and over again, even at the beginning of the day his first impulse was to ask someone else what they think rather than share what they thought first
That may have something to do with your play style. You don't really give any reason for anyone to listen to you.
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:16 pm

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In post 1373, Garmr wrote:
In post 1372, Saudade wrote:i mean CT keeps doing the same things over and over again, even at the beginning of the day his first impulse was to ask someone else what they think rather than share what they thought first


i mean CT keeps doing the same things over and over again, even at the beginning of the day his first impulse was to ask someone else what they think rather than share what they thought first
That may have something to do with your play style. You don't really give any reason for anyone to listen to you.
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