Shit, that was a very good page. Don’t wholly disagree with anything when laid out that way. I’m still more confidant in Dave though so will keep vote there for now.
FMPOV I know there's at least one scum between {nonny,CT}, and while CT's gambit still leaves a foul taste in my mouth I think his play has been consistently town since D2. Nonny's catch-up looked towny at first pass, but there's a noticeable lack of content about FA_Q2. Nonny throwing a vote onto davesaz makes sense from a scum!nonny perspective as last-minute distancing too, though I've got to do some digging later to see if the pair makes sense. I don't think lynching davesaz is a good idea though since I think nonny/FA_Q2 are much more likely to flip scum (a Loud mafia role would also be a bit weird, but there's a lot of unconventional roles this game so I wouldn't be too surprised if that is the case). I think Tchill has definitely gotten townier lately, so if I assume that Tchill and CT are both town then nonny and FA_Q2 are confirmed scum to me through the two L-3 wagons today (It might be a bit early to make the call on the CT wagon, but I don't think he's being quick-hammered today either). CT is a common denominator in both wagons, which makes me feel the easier answer is just to assume scum!CT, but really I can't see his play coming from scum for the most part. I don't know if davesaz is the third scum yet, but I guess I'll have time to figure that out later.
Like i said at the time, i was just in a game with an even odd pair. On phone so it's hard to quote. The post where I say don't counter. Two half roles is all the rage rn.
I'm less sure about ct post retraction. Can't think of a reason to retract with no pressure unless he was concerned about possible rolecop.
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I'm fairly sure Tchill will flip scum at this point since only three people from the Tiphiane wagon have not flipped town; Flavor, Tchill, and Davesaz. Two of those there have claims that make sense within the setup and have breadcrumbs to support their claims. Given all the evidence all the reasons I've hard to suspect Tchill, I'm 99% certain he'll scum. VOTE: Tchill13
In post 736, Completly Trustworthy wrote:I'm fairly sure Tchill will flip scum at this point since only three people from the Tiphiane wagon have not flipped town; Flavor, Tchill, and Davesaz. Two of those there have claims that make sense within the setup and have breadcrumbs to support their claims. Given all the evidence all the reasons I've hard to suspect Tchill, I'm 99% certain he'll scum. VOTE: Tchill13
So my weak visitor shot means nothing to you. Interesting note.
In post 736, Completly Trustworthy wrote:I'm fairly sure Tchill will flip scum at this point since only three people from the Tiphiane wagon have not flipped town; Flavor, Tchill, and Davesaz. Two of those there have claims that make sense within the setup and have breadcrumbs to support their claims. Given all the evidence all the reasons I've hard to suspect Tchill, I'm 99% certain he'll scum. VOTE: Tchill13
So my weak visitor shot means nothing to you. Interesting note.
Even more interesting is you say the roles make sense, however, Dave targeted me with the loud shot, and I targeted Tchill. Betting it all on me being roleblocked?
It does mean something to me, the only reason I voted Nonny instead of Tchill earlier was because of the possibility that he might be cleared. Since I think Davesaz seems credible, I don't think he's cleared anymore. Also, I'm fairly certain there was scum on my wagon and the only remaining candidates are you, Una, and Tchill. Both my wagon and Tiphiane's were almost certainly scum-motivated and Tchill's the best candidate for being scum on each. In addition, his associations with FA and Nonny are also highly suspicious. Also, his reads have been hard to understand and I feel like he's not really making well-reasoned pushes. For instance, his only real argument against Una was that he was being pushed by him. I feel like the evidence against him is great.
Alright, I checked mafiawiki, apparently the normal version of a doctor cannot prevent a weak role from dying when targeting an anti-town faction. I was mistaken about the rules. UNVOTE: Tchill13
In post 727, nonny wrote:Shit, that was a very good page. Don’t wholly disagree with anything when laid out that way. I’m still more confidant in Dave though so will keep vote there for now.
Which also explains this post. Picks the townie of the three that i proposed.
In post 746, Completly Trustworthy wrote:If the scumteam is FA/Nonny/Reundo, doesn't that mean that the Tiphiane wagon was all town? I find that hard to believe.
Hmm...it does. Damn.
However it was a quick wagon, and I’ve seen all town wagons in scenarios like that.
As a 2-shot and with the only claimed PR a novice, I holstered N1. Better odds of saves N2 and N3.
At the time we switched wagons was there even time to start a different one? I got the impression that Tiphane was just an end of day alternative to the PR claim. I could take a closer look at that if you think I'm wrong about it, though I think we're running out of time today.
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