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[UnaBombaH]

I'm thinking that might have been a "queued" post from Springtrap, and he messed it up.
Meaning it could be very simply Overkill/XtoxMuxMax/Springtrap..

[Springtrap]

Oh. Well I guess I should have waited 10 more minutes to wake up and drink my coffee. Carry on.

[UnaBombaH]

Una, In a universe where me and overkill aren't doing some weird scum theatre, who are his buddies?

In a universe where you are town, Overkill didn't name two townies as your target. At least my own mentality would be to be "safe" (hard to be really safe with the type of claim he threw anyway) and not name all townies.
Mix it up you know. Maybe get people into a weird mindset where both of your "targets" get townlocked for being a part of his gambit. Something like that.
So even with scum!Overkill flip here, I'd say we look into the trio of

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer

And if Overkill goes against the odds and flips town here, we still go Xtoxm->one of Stanley/GiF, so we aren't terribly bad off..

Overkill flipping town would also mean that I'd put A50/Clemency under surveillance.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.2 (FINAL):

0verki11: Not_Mafia, joges, Almost50, Clemency, Springtrap, UnaBombaH, Xtoxm (7)

Xtoxm:

Gamma Emerald, Persivul, Chateau Lobby, stan1ey, GuyInFreezer (5)

Not Voting:

0verki11

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-12-25 21:35:00)

[Rob14]

0verki11,

Town Two-Shot Tracker

, was lynched Day 2.

Night 2 has begun! Please submit all night actions within (expired on 2018-12-15 08:10:00) by PM or relevant PT.

[Rob14]

Chateau Lobby,

Town Loyal Fruit Vendor

, was killed Night 2.

Day 3 has begun. With 11 people alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-12-29 14:05:00)

[Clemency]

mafia have a roleblocker

[Clemency]

and here i thought my bait worked too

[Almost50]

Chateau Lobby,

Town Loyal Fruit Vendor

, was killed Night 2.

Day 3 has begun. With 11 people alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2018-12-29 14:05:00)

Who thinks we have TWO "Loyal Fruit Vendors"??

VOTE: Xtoxm

[Xtoxm]

Fuck guys I'm really sorry I got my games mixed up, this is the game where I'm a multitasking Neapolitan motion detector

/shame

[joges]

Well now he's just bullshitting. I didn't visit anyone last night. We can turbolynch this.

Can you, Xtoxm, explain why overkill told us you visited two people and you denied it?

Pedit what is neapolitin? I’m phone posting. Will try to wiki.

[joges]

I’ve looked it up. I don’t realy believe you.

@Clemency - Why do you think there is a roleblocker for scum?

[Almost50]

Yeah, right. And it didn't occur to you for the whole time which took 28 hrs between him claiming the result on you and

you laying the hammer yourself

. I'm totally convinced.

[Clemency]

I’ve looked it up. I don’t realy believe you.

@Clemency - Why do you think there is a roleblocker for scum?

i healed chateau

[Almost50]

I’ve looked it up. I don’t realy believe you.

@Clemency - Why do you think there is a roleblocker for scum?

Of course Xtoxm is lying. It doesn't even makes sense that he forgot his role for all this time, and especially so when I said "You do understand you will be next if he flips green" (which someone thought was fluff). Assuming Xtoxm did forget momentarily, my question there should've alerted him to double check.

Finally, MD + Nea = two results, which he didn't give. He was accused if targeting stanley + GiFm and AGAIN he would have certainly remembered he got results on these specific two. He doesn't even try to say "I'm a double Doctor", so someone may buy him forgetting. HE GOT RESULTS. Did he mix his games on those two?

[Clemency]

VOTE: xtoxm

[Springtrap]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

[joges]

I’ve looked it up. I don’t realy believe you.

@Clemency - Why do you think there is a roleblocker for scum?

i healed chateau

Makes sense. You didn’t think A50 would be the kill again?

@A50 post quoting me. I agree with you.

[Clemency]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

because i made it that way with a50
i baited towards the idea that if i lived to day 3 "you could lynch me" and a50 said "if chateau is dead and clemency is alive lynch clemency"
i saw it as a way to potentially save myself and chateau if scum was dumb enough but i didn't account for a roleblock

[Clemency]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

because i made it that way with a50
i baited towards the idea that if i lived to day 3 "you could lynch me" and a50 said "if chateau is dead and clemency is alive lynch clemency"
i saw it as a way to potentially save myself and chateau if scum was dumb enough but i didn't account for a roleblock

idk if a50 was playing along or meant it but i'm assuming the former

[Clemency]

i'm going to defend persivul till the grave unless you give me a reason not to

You're lucky I'm thinking mechanically. If I did what most people do here I would actually pair you up with Persy for real.

If there's another Doctor in the game DO NOT CC today

. We already have our lynch.

If Chateau dies on N2 Clemency is likely Scum, but as long as there's no CC to his Doctor claim I'd still be inclined to believe he healed me last night because it makes most sense and especially so in the absence of a NK. (Which can only be explained by the existence of another Doctor or a BP, or a Town RB/JK)

Anyway, Persy eats rope and I will see if I can do some VCA before the end of the day (not too beneficial at this time so I'm not desperate that the day doesn't end, just as long as it ends with a Persy lynch).

this post

[Springtrap]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

because i made it that way with a50
i baited towards the idea that if i lived to day 3 "you could lynch me" and a50 said "if chateau is dead and clemency is alive lynch clemency"
i saw it as a way to potentially save myself and chateau if scum was dumb enough but i didn't account for a roleblock

But it always makes more sense to kill a doctor whenever possible. And Loyal acts like a roleblock if used on mafia, right? Scum would have killed the doctor and roleblocked the vendor to frame someone else they tried to give the fruit too.

Of course I'm still going to hang xtoxm, but now I'm doubting you could actually be a doctor.

[Clemency]

So why didn't the mafia kill the doctor claim? It seems more likely they would kill a doctor and roleblock a Loyal fruit vendor instead?

because i made it that way with a50
i baited towards the idea that if i lived to day 3 "you could lynch me" and a50 said "if chateau is dead and clemency is alive lynch clemency"
i saw it as a way to potentially save myself and chateau if scum was dumb enough but i didn't account for a roleblock

But it always makes more sense to kill a doctor whenever possible. And Loyal acts like a roleblock if used on mafia, right? Scum would have killed the doctor and roleblocked the vendor to frame someone else they tried to give the fruit too.

Of course I'm still going to hang xtoxm, but now I'm doubting you could actually be a doctor.

you're making the assumption that x always has to be true where that's not necessarily the case

[joges]

VLA until Tuesday. Phone posting just isn’t my thing. My vote at this point would be on xtoxm but I want to see posts from everyone before we start voting.

[Springtrap]

Xtoxm visited Stanley and Guyinafreezer, tyty for making me out what it most likely 2 TIs.

Mafia xtoxm hasn't visited Almost50, who you claimed to have healed. It can be assumed he actually attacked one of these 2 people. You admit to knowing Almost50 and he applauded you for seeing through his ruse. So you would see through it anyway if you are mafia.

I feel as if Clemency is claiming doctor as a way to cover himself in the future.