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Post Post #2275  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:05 am

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votes[1] Varsoon : OkaPoka
[1] DrDolittle : mbaki
[1] Creature : Varsoon
[1] mbaki : DrDolittle

[3] Not Voting : Creature, Kmd4390, Suka

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Post Post #2276  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:00 pm

Are we all drained from playing this game?

Can the nonvoters throw down their votes please? I don't want this to drag on for 10 more days.

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Post Post #2277  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:05 pm

We need to compromise somewhere.
The fact there hasn't been makes me sure that one of the people being voted is very likely to be scum.

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Post Post #2278  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:05 pm

Perhaps even two?

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Post Post #2279  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:40 am

VOTE: DrDo

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Post Post #2280  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:27 pm

I'm gonna be at majiffymeet tonight. Will read up and decide where to vote over the weekend.
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Post Post #2281  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:30 pm

Please do.
It's Creature, btw.
And if not, it's Mbaki or DDL.

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Post Post #2282  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:28 pm

So you read Oka as town despite his tunnel on you?

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Post Post #2283  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:29 pm

If I had it my way, it'd be Creature, then Oka depending on how Creature flips.
If don't think they're both scum though.

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Post Post #2284  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:05 pm

I'd rather Oka lynch over Creature. Don't see the utility of scum commuter compared with ascetic.

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Post Post #2285  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:45 pm

Creature where are you.

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Post Post #2286  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 pm

Don't see town getting a commuter in this setup.

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Post Post #2287  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:04 am

Prodding Creature.
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Post Post #2288  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:05 am

Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.

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Post Post #2289  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:22 am

In post 2281, Varsoon wrote:Please do.
It's Creature, btw.
And if not, it's Mbaki or DDL.


I'm fucking hammered but....

Wait what? Why's it creature? He's one of my strongest town reads and off the top of my head I can't remember anyone disagreeing we the that so where is this considered from? I don't think it's him.
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Post Post #2290  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:59 am

Yawn

VOTE: OkaPoka
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Post Post #2291  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:00 am

I keep having this paranoia of three scum being alive and suddenly quickhammering whoever I vote.
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Post Post #2292  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:02 am

Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites
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Post Post #2293  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:29 am

In post 2288, mbaki wrote:Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.


Real talk, are you scum?

Commuter makes you immune to EVERYTHING, including kills.

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Post Post #2294  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:31 am

UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.
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Post Post #2295  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:32 am

Maybe both scum are just between the VT claims.
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Post Post #2296  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:41 pm

In post 2293, Varsoon wrote:
In post 2288, mbaki wrote:Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.


Real talk, are you scum?

Commuter makes you immune to EVERYTHING, including kills.

Real talk, are you scum?

Ascetic makes you immune to EVERYTHING, except kills.

They fit in the same role category and do the same thing, kind of like Cop and Neapolitan. One just does a little different. They cover the same stuff. And, since there is no town vig in this game, they are ESSENTIALLY the SAME ROLE in that aspect. Creature being able to dodge the scum kill is the only difference, so using your own (bad) setup-spec logic Creature's role is the town one. That isn't actually how setup design works and you'll get screwed long term thinking like that, so the proper play is to decide which of them is scum by their play.

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Post Post #2297  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:42 pm

In post 2292, Creature wrote:Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites

Commuter and ascetic are not opposites... and this is a terrible analogy anyways?

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Post Post #2298  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:50 pm

In post 2297, mbaki wrote:
In post 2292, Creature wrote:Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites

Commuter and ascetic are not opposites... and this is a terrible analogy anyways?

Ascetic is basically vulnerable to kills while Commuter is the opposite.
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Post Post #2299  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:50 pm

In post 2296, mbaki wrote:they are ESSENTIALLY the SAME ROLE in that aspect.

except I can dodge scum kills while Oka can't.
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