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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:05 pm
by northsidegal
VC 4.3
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[1] Varsoon
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OkaPoka
[1] DrDolittle
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mbaki
[1] Creature
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Varsoon
[1] mbaki
:
DrDolittle

[3] Not Voting
:
Creature, Kmd4390, Suka

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch


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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:00 pm
by OkaPoka
Are we all drained from playing this game?

Can the nonvoters throw down their votes please? I don't want this to drag on for 10 more days.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 pm
by Varsoon
We need to compromise somewhere.
The fact there hasn't been makes me sure that one of the people being voted is very likely to be scum.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:05 pm
by Varsoon
Perhaps even two?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:40 am
by Suka
VOTE: DrDo

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:27 am
by Kmd4390
I'm gonna be at majiffymeet tonight. Will read up and decide where to vote over the weekend.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:30 am
by Varsoon
Please do.
It's Creature, btw.
And if not, it's Mbaki or DDL.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:28 pm
by mbaki
So you read Oka as town despite his tunnel on you?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:29 pm
by Varsoon
If I had it my way, it'd be Creature, then Oka depending on how Creature flips.
If don't think they're both scum though.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:05 pm
by Suka
I'd rather Oka lynch over Creature. Don't see the utility of scum commuter compared with ascetic.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:45 pm
by OkaPoka
Creature where are you.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:49 pm
by Varsoon
Don't see town getting a commuter in this setup.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:04 pm
by northsidegal
Prodding Creature.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:05 pm
by mbaki
Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:22 pm
by Kmd4390
In post 2281, Varsoon wrote:Please do.
It's Creature, btw.
And if not, it's Mbaki or DDL.
I'm fucking hammered but....

Wait what? Why's it creature? He's one of my strongest town reads and off the top of my head I can't remember anyone disagreeing we the that so where is this considered from? I don't think it's him.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:59 am
by Creature
Yawn

VOTE: OkaPoka

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:00 am
by Creature
I keep having this paranoia of three scum being alive and suddenly quickhammering whoever I vote.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 am
by Creature
Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:29 am
by Varsoon
In post 2288, mbaki wrote:Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.
Real talk, are you scum?

Commuter makes you immune to EVERYTHING, including kills.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:31 am
by Creature
UNVOTE:

Meh, I'm starting to think Oka is more meant to be a negative utility.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:32 am
by Creature
Maybe both scum are just between the VT claims.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 am
by mbaki
In post 2293, Varsoon wrote:
In post 2288, mbaki wrote:Commuter and Ascetic both do the same thing, ie make you untargetable by actions. Ergo, scumread them for their play, not their roles.
Real talk, are you scum?

Commuter makes you immune to EVERYTHING, including kills.
Real talk, are you scum?

Ascetic makes you immune to EVERYTHING, except kills.

They fit in the same role category and do the same thing, kind of like Cop and Neapolitan. One just does a little different. They cover the same stuff. And, since there is no town vig in this game, they are ESSENTIALLY the SAME ROLE in that aspect. Creature being able to dodge the scum kill is the only difference, so using your own (bad) setup-spec logic Creature's role is the town one. That isn't actually how setup design works and you'll get screwed long term thinking like that, so the proper play is to decide which of them is scum by their play.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:42 am
by mbaki
In post 2292, Creature wrote:Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites
Commuter and ascetic are not opposites... and this is a terrible analogy anyways?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:50 am
by Creature
In post 2297, mbaki wrote:
In post 2292, Creature wrote:Actually, it's possible for commuter and ascetic to both exist in this setup.

Like, follower and voyeur are opposites

Commuter and ascetic are also like both opposites
Commuter and ascetic are not opposites... and this is a terrible analogy anyways?
Ascetic is basically vulnerable to kills while Commuter is the opposite.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:50 am
by Creature
In post 2296, mbaki wrote:they are ESSENTIALLY the SAME ROLE in that aspect.
except I can dodge scum kills while Oka can't.