mini 2048: more songs (game ougre)

[mastina]

if lapsa is town, then egix-nikk is scum team for sure..

I'd be more than happy to test Lapsa being town with a lynch, except. Yaknow. There's the one obvious problem with that.

Basically, we

can't

test that. We need to get it right, today. If Lapsa is scum, yes, we get a chance to find the scum on the wagon tomorrow, but if Lapsa isn't scum, that's it; we lose if we assumed she was.

I want more presence from Nikk right now most of all, because of a specific observation I made; I want to see where he stands and why, before I talk further. (Basically, I don't want to taint his reaction by spelling out what I'm looking for in town/scum.)

[mastina]

Also, deadline's not TOO close. We've got over a week. Plenty of time to hash things out, assuming everyone remains present at least to some extent.

[Nikk]

Holy moly x went from TL to person who would get my in a matter of two days!

Going to go stream, once off I will reread but a lot of that feels... scummy.

[Nikk]

Also I've had auditors at my job all week so I have no access a majority of the day. Not an excuse just dont expect responses unless Im on lunch or its late EST

[xwing]

okay mastina, im putting all my eggs on your slot..i've got to trust my gut that you're town or there's nothing for me to hold on to and im just gonna doubt everyone..if you're town!mastina i gotta thank trivium for that advice..

that said, i hope everyone is active before lynch time comes..im very excited on the outcome of this game and dont want it being stalled by inactivity or false promises of activity..

@nikk: do tell..im very interested..

[xwing]

Also, deadline's not TOO close. We've got over a week. Plenty of time to hash things out, assuming everyone remains present at least to some extent.

kk, but at this point we should have the scum team in mind already..i dont think you're gonna be alive the next day, assuming we catch scum today..

[Nikk]

566 and 719 are very interesting posts to me regarding xwing, as is the flurry of activity late game.

I'm almost thinking xwing/lapsa as a lot of xwing's early posts seem to be distancing without any real push or vote there.

And now I sleep.

[Egix96]

what makes me scummy, egix, aside from mastina's VCA?
why is his absence in double quotes? what are you implying?

- I've pointed out what I didn't like about your post 990. If you're scum, to me that looks like your mask slipping off.

- I put quote marks around that word because it's the same word that you used. I was quoting you.

[Lapsa]

this game is taking way too much of my brain cycles

before I start my offensive (will case everyone), would like to address this bit:

119, 120 - The hypocrisy from Lapsa is real.

it's intentional

although "overabundance of lame questions" is a scumtell only when accompanied with insecurity

[xwing]

stop posturing/stalling and just lay out your cases, lapsa..
this is getting too long-winded..
im getting very impatient/annoyed..zzzzzzz..
feeling trigger happy very, very, soon-ish..

[Lapsa]

shut up, sit down and wait, you little prick

I got some work to do

I'm not gonna slip into territory of losing my job cause of some asshole in stupid forum game

[xwing]

ooooooh..didnt know you worked 24/7, my bad..

[Lapsa]

you' re an asshole

[xwing]

why? i simply want to see your reads and cases, im not even name-calling you like what you've been doing to me..
i dont see anyone else reacting as violently as you when i demanded reads from them..
im not sure what that says about your alignment, but i'm genuinely amused/confused..

[Lapsa]

here's a screenshot

maybe this afternoon. definitely till the end of this weekend

[xwing]

im not doubting the fact that you need to work or the fact that you're working..
im doubting your slot since it's been 2+ days since i've asked for your reads and you still haven't gone about them..

i could interpret this as active lurking, which is scummy..
i could interpret this as stalling for time, which is scummy still..
my point in 1101 is you dont work 24/7, so you have time to post..and the fact that you've posted fairly recently means you've got time to post *something*..

you could have just said "im swamped with work, will post by the weekend" and that would have been fine by me..instead of name-calling and hostility which i dont really get..

anyway, you seem to be a smart ruby programmer working in logistics..
let's be civil and not be hostile to each other in game..sorry if i offended you in any way (honestly, i dont really know how or why i've been offensive but i apologize anyway)..let's have fun in-game..

saying that, if im not convinced you're town, i will push for your lynch..that's my wincon, no hard feelings..if im wrong, then im wrong..

PS: i expect great things on monday..nobody please vote until then..i'm V/LA on weekends as you all know soooo please wait for me..

[mastina]

So now that Nikk's posted.
What I noticed before was.
xwing is townreading me to "bet the game" levels of town.
Egix is also townreading me rather strongly.
Nikk is also townreading me, strength hard to tell but it's there regardless.

In those three players, you have at least one scum--and I've felt it was two.
But I noticed something.
Those players who are betting the game on me being town, by proxy of having done so, need me to vote with them--they need to appeal to me. They need to get on my good side.
After I posted 992 and 993,

both

xwing and Egix had a shift in stances.

Compare posts like 985 from xwing (not the best example, but there) and posts like 983 from Egix.
To posts like 995/996 from xwing and posts like 994/998 from Egix.

Before my posts where I outline that scum must have bussed: suspicion heavily on Lapsa.
After my posts where I outline that scum must have bussed: suspicion on Nikk.

Nikk is the odd man out here in not having changed at all.

So I'm kinda of the opinion that we either have an xwing-Egix team (which was my original hypothesis at daystart) or a Nikk-Lapsa team.
Where xwing and Egix share an alignment, and that alignment is different from Nikk's, due to their different reactions.

But even if I'm correct in this deduction.
That doesn't exactly tell me which of the two pairs is town.

[xwing]

Those players who are betting the game on me being town, by proxy of having done so, need me to vote with them--they need to appeal to me. They need to get on my good side.

After I posted 992 and 993, both xwing and Egix had a shift in stances.

bolded is pretty dang accurate..
though to be fair what im really trying to do is reveal my alignment to everyone as much as i can, hence the flurry of activity..
but it's true, im trying to convince you the most of what my alignment is..
i've placed my confidence of town you mostly on my familiarity with db's play, but im feeling more confident on mastina town with this latest post..
also, i didnt notice egix's change of stance, maybe coz you're in a unique position so you notice these stuff more..that's very interesting fmpov..

i'm town, and if anyone has any case against me, just lay it out here in the open and let's discuss..

let's wait for lapsa to say his piece too..im very interested..

[Lapsa]

yeah yeah whatever. shoo shoo now

[xwing]

haha lapsa..i didnt mean NOW as in right this moment..
im just excited to see what you have to say so i keep repeating myself..
should be fairly obvious i expect it on monday, not now..please let's be friends and no name-calling..

dont worry, im leaving the PC in 2 hours so this could be my last post for this week..

@egix, @nikk, what do you think of mastina's 1016?

[Nikk]

I've been spinning am x and e team for a bit but it's mostly gut. Too late in the game for that.

1016 ses lie townie reasoning

[Nikk]

I've been spinning an x and e team for a bit in my head but it's mostly gut. Too late in the game to take any real action based on that

1016 seems like townie reasoning

EBWOP
Don't post super late.
Today is my last day of limited access. Hopefully tomm morning I can dig in...

[Lapsa]

random thoughts format

mainly focusing on today since game makes little sense since yesterday and this might actually help

reading backwards

latest addition is xwing's trigger happiness.
I believe it was caused by me mentioning insecurity in context of "lame questions" argument.
if that's so - apparently he hasn't noticed that that argument is long overdue. or doesn't want to

xwing can recognize programming languages and even business domain (semi-correctly).
that feels like last straw needed to accept he's actually capable of high-activity, high-noise scum play style

nikk jumps in. ses lie? wat?

lurk sack

I don't understand what's the idea and town intent behind #1020

#1017 looks weird. for some reason xwing still gives free pass to mastina

mastina calls xwing+egx / nikk+lapsa.
so convoluted...
think I understand what is meant by that proxy sentence.
I remember thinking something why xwing+egx is unlikely, need to reread

I'm scared of mastina.
she is even more alien than nikk.
I don't necessarily believe her claim.
emits aura of a very experienced mafia player.
judging by her blog - fatigue seems to be genuine.
was wrong on setup spec that resulted in a mislynch

xwing's #1015 is a shitfest. 24/7 my ass. desperation?

egx calling out xwing.
I really need to go back and figure out why I found egx+xwing unlikely.
kinda OMGUS. is that the change of stance mastina is talking about?

have been ignoring egx slot for most of the game.
not sure what to make out of yesterday's sudden hostility.
was it caused by self-voting?

nikk comes in with xwing+lapsa. a switch. mentions distancing.
part of me gets annoyed that my votes once again are devalued.
reminds me a bit of "day 1 normal probing" only more cautious

xwing stating that we should have the scum team in mind

odd reasoning for townreading mastina

nikk calls out xwing.
seems to be using 1 letter shortcuts for quite some time.
is that hedging through ambiguity?

mastina fluffing about time left

err... fails to read my pronoun?
"specific observation" - she did return to that.
something feels off. just like her setup speculation

egx chugging nikk+lapsa. I have forgotten his case.
quite hard push for nikk to vote

oh fuck.... somehow glided over #997.
perhaps I'm an asshole.
rhymes with "we should have the scum team in mind".
is that a trap? am I getting pocketed?

calls out egx+nikk. I remember thinking those two being quite hostile. distancing?

#996 xwing missing fact that I unvoted. guess that doesn't change idea.
has been toying around with egx+nikk pair for quite awhile

feels like we really are play style incompatible

oh come on. survival schit was great. even more so given such a splendid review

err... mastina cover?

egx calling out xwing on 990. seems too slow given how much he wanted my head

and that's the problem with mastina. her reasoning is spot on.
although I'm still uncomfortable making any conclusions regarding golden's flip.
that guy was scum... what was it - page 2?

looking back - I do remember thinking doughboy could be a hot potato aka PR

that's the mentioned mastina's cover.
if that townread on nikk has any weight - post looks kinda weird

#986 the problem with your question on #87 is that it was like our first interaction and you kicked my balls.
I read that as if scumbuddy happily found some scapegoats

calling for a lynch w/o a vote is kinda regular bait for me.
helps to sort out obvtown.
knew triv would put up with that.
also one of the reasons I hate when people pay no attention to my votes

bookmark#986

[Egix96]

@egix, @nikk, what do you think of mastina's 1016?

The main problem with it is that FMPOV it doesn't get us much closer to solving the game, since I already have Nikk as scum. It does help to settle my paranoia of you being scum instead of Lapsa though.

I realise that you're probably not going to read this until after the weekend, but hopefully by that time mastina should have an idea in mind of how we should go about voting.

[schadd_]

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